Originally posted by ghostman
SO superman dragging wonder woman to the sun isnt light speed or anywhere close to it?
So him grabbing and FLYING WW to sun is combat speed? Ironman grabbed Void and carried him near the sun in a couple of panels. Gladiator crossed Galaxies in the blink of an eye and punched Heimidal. Sigh
Originally posted by carver9
So him grabbing and FLYING WW to sun is combat speed? Ironman grabbed Void and carried him near the sun in a couple of panels. Gladiator crossed Galaxies in the blink of an eye and punched Heimidal. Sigh
were they not in combat? were they not fighting? your examples are ****ing irrelevant, heimdal and gladiator weren't in the middle of a damn fight.
jesus christ you're insufferable
Originally posted by ghostman
were they not in combat? were they not fighting? your examples are ****ing irrelevant, heimdal and gladiator weren't in the middle of a damn fight.jesus christ you're insufferable
He grabbed her on Earth and flew her to the sun while heat visioning her. I said combat speed, not flight. Your examples sucks. By the way, just so that I dont add confusion, Ironman flew WITH Sentry to the Sun in a couple of panels...
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/5027440-flies%20past%20planet%202.jpg
Y’all love to pile on Carver and make his arguments out to be sooo absurd but I have yet to see scan of DD surviving atomization, in which case Surfer (who surfs super novas and travels light years in seconds) does not even have to be much faster.
DD was reduced to a skeleton by Imperiex! How fast was that? Didn’t that kill-him-kill-him and then from there he was cloned or something? Didn’t I just show Surfer reducing the entirety of the magically enhanced Tiger-Man-Being to atoms, not even leaving a skeleton?
Lmk if I’m wrong. I can take it.
Didn’t a bunch Kryptonians beat DD to death in Kandor after you supposedly couldn’t kill him that way anymore? Or was that not the right DD? Honestly asking!
He’s supposed to be so tough cuz of his best feats, which are amazing, but he certainly has his low showings too and Surfer is pretty godly. Again my only point is no one takes it 10/10
Originally posted by carver9
He grabbed her on Earth and flew her to the sun while heat visioning her. I said combat speed, not flight. Your examples sucks. By the way, just so that I dont add confusion, Ironman flew WITH Sentry to the Sun in a couple of panels...https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111118857/5027440-flies%20past%20planet%202.jpg
you just proved my point 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by ghostman
were they not in combat? were they not fighting? your examples are ****ing irrelevant, heimdal and gladiator weren't in the middle of a damn fight.jesus christ you're insufferable
👆
what's inside carveturd's brain:
1.multiple characters commented on doomsday's combat speed, but he's not fast enough for this fight just cos
2. surfer has never opened a blackhole inside anyone ever, but he's doing it to doomsday right here
seriously how did this fukin guy finish school, and hold a job? like this shithead is a part of society, let that sink in.
Originally posted by MrMind
👆what's inside carveturd's brain:
1.multiple characters commented on doomsday's combat speed, but he's not fast enough for this fight just cos2. surfer has never opened a blackhole inside anyone ever, but he's doing it to doomsday right here
seriously how did this fukin guy finish school, and hold a job? like this shithead is a part of society, let that sink in.
No one said Doomsday is slow. He just isnt blitzing Surfer...especially if you factor in the starting distance.
He doesnt have to open a black hole inside of anyone. He can shrink and he can create black holes. Simple. Doomsday never fought at light speed. You all can pretend like he did if you want.
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Ok fine but, when has DD demonstrated a "resistance" to atomization?
Now I have to prove for you the limit? Perhaps show whom it has affect then we can apply to others. Since you’re making the claim it would work, you have to start with some evidence
Originally posted by xJLxKing
Wouldn’t this be a no limit fallacy?
You invent an attack that you haven’t established to me the limitsNow I have to prove for you the limit? Perhaps show whom it has affect then we can apply to others. Since you’re making the claim it would work, you have to start with some evidence
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Just off the top of my head in the 2011 Fraction Defenders run he turned a guy into atoms!http://i.imgur.com/hTPkcFF.jpg
Has someone already done that to DD?
Is there any indication anywhere Doomsday could survive something like that? Do people just ignore me because my gimmick hasn’t changed since I was 14?
I would love to see Doomsday best travel speed ft that proves he can cover the distance between the two before Surfer could react...
Surfer searches an entire planet in seconds...
Circles an enemy at FTL speeds...
Microsecond reaction...
Microsecond speed...
Faster than a nano second...
Fast enough to track teleportation...
Cant wait to see Doomsday speed fts. Also, are you all implying that once Doomsday blitz, he is going to one shot Surfer? There are a lot of showings that happened in DOS that contradicts that.
Damn I never thought I’d say this but y’all are just trollin. Y’all bait and make fun and claim someone’s argument is so stupid, but don’t show any scans to back it up! You act like it’s so important to back up points with scans but don’t show any yourselves and clearly don’t look at the ones me or Carver posted!!
I mean I’m not really that serious about it I’m just sayin! Again, still open to being totally wrong if someone can show me, but if not, DD does NOT stomp 10/10! And everyone who said so has to take it back!
Didn’t Surfer say later he alowed Bp to do this? (Or was it McDuffie himself saying this was stupid?) Isn’t this the quintessential example of PIS? Isn’t this almost like the kind of trolling I was just referring to. If you think this proves DD wins more power to you.
Also what exactly does this prove? This did zero damage to Surfer. DD has never locked anyone in an armbar etc, etc
Finally, it doesn’t undo any of the other scans showing his abilities, not even necessarily his high showings. And it doesn’t show anyone surving his atomization like I been asking...
Originally posted by Quick Freeze
Y’all love to pile on Carver and make his arguments out to be sooo absurd but I have yet to see scan of DD surviving atomization, in which case Surfer (who surfs super novas and travels light years in seconds) does not even have to be much faster.DD was reduced to a skeleton by Imperiex! How fast was that? Didn’t that kill-him-kill-him and then from there he was cloned or something? Didn’t I just show Surfer reducing the entirety of the magically enhanced Tiger-Man-Being to atoms, not even leaving a skeleton?
Lmk if I’m wrong. I can take it.
Didn’t a bunch Kryptonians beat DD to death in Kandor after you supposedly couldn’t kill him that way anymore? Or was that not the right DD? Honestly asking!
He’s supposed to be so tough cuz of his best feats, which are amazing, but he certainly has his low showings too and Surfer is pretty godly. Again my only point is no one takes it 10/10
1. Do you know exactly how Surfer atomize that being? Was it disintegration from a blast? Can Surfer do the same thing to any high Herald level being?
2. The Omega beams, at half power, atomized a missile so durable that Superman couldn't put a scratch on, using all of his might. In other words, the Omega beams were shown to be many orders of magnitude above Superman. Yet DD tanked them without visible damage. That missile was more durable than the being Surfer atomized.
3. Surfer traveling through space (no drag forces) can not be used as combat speed (reaction and thinking speed and power activation speed). Drag force becomes astronomical when traveling at large speeds in an atmosphere.
With that said, here are some facts.
1. Surfer's blasts wouldn't phase DD in the slightest.
2. Surfer doesn't have reaction and perception speed greater than Superman.
3. Surfer is very weak against powerful punches and blunt attacks.
