DE Sidious & Ludo Kressh vs. Marka Ragnos & Naga Sadow

Started by Darth Sexy14 pages

Read GAOTS.. No really.

No proof, no proof, no proof!
You lose, you lose, you lose. Go away

Translation: I'm full of shit..

Better luck next time lightsnake, there's just only so many times you can play the ignorance card.

You lose, you lose, you lose. **** off

Poor lightsnake. It's ok bro you really seem to have a thing of denial going, especially if you don't get your way. Ragnos dying of old age is fact, so if you don't like it you can scurry off and have a hissy fit. I certainly hope you're not one of those that lose sleep over this forum if your favorite character is diminished. That would be very sad.

You lose, you lose, you lose. **** off

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Poor lightsnake. It's ok bro you really seem to have a thing of denial going, especially if you don't get your way. Ragnos dying of old age is fact, so if you don't like it you can scurry off and have a hissy fit. I certainly hope you're not one of those that lose sleep over this forum if your favorite character is diminished. That would be very sad.

Enough said.

Owned, honey.

You lose, you lose, you lose.
Shut up

Self pwnage x2. Way to go lightsnake, please come back when you have a valid argument not made with fake and arbitrary emails..

You two both need to chill.

Lightsnake, I understand that the lack of proof (sorry, Sexy, but we have provided more proof than you) is irritating, but don't act childish. It's no excuse.

Sexy, Lightsnake's most recent responses have been childish, but it doesn't excuse the fact that a lot of your arguments make don't make sense and you haven't given as much proof as we have, in favor of so called logical deduction.

Perhaps not, but the fact that Ragnos died of old is indeed fact. It's not my fault he can't accept it..

PRove. It.
Ok? Find me just one official source, email Kevin J. Anderson if you have to, [email protected]
http://www.hollywoodcomics.com/veitch.html
Or Tom Veitch

http://www.wordfire.com/anderzone.html

Did I fake those sites? emails were posted with return addresses. I was showing them to Nai long before you showed your face here. Oh, wait, silly me...they contradict your ragnos humping. Therefore they must be fake!
Give me a break, mind explaining how I duplicated the format? Mind explaining how I hacked into the email accounts of Dan Wallace, Kevin J. Anderson and Tom Veitch?

Maybe you should ask the mods to compare mine and Dan's IP addresses and location?

Where the hell is the information pertaining to this discussion?

Well, Kevin J. Anderson, when asked, cited Kun as the strongest of the Ancient Times, without any doubt. When pressed, accordin to KJA, Palpatine and Exar would have to fight before the title of strongest Sith would be determined...Marka is clearly not put on top. Nai believes Tom Veitch created Ragnos so Kevin cannot make definite statements, so I email Tom from his posted site.

Tom and I chat a bit...I ask him questions, he answers, also saying that Palpatine had the most knowledge in that he took all of the secrets of the Ancient Sith and Jedi and added some of his own, which is exactly what published, canon material states. Tom says that among the true powers of the Sith, Palpatine was one of the best at, and comparitively, Exar Kun was an adept woith an ego problem.

Going further, Palpatine invented his own instakil that he was rather proud of: Reach out with your anger and snuff out someone's life instantly. He taught it to Luke, along with the defense he invented as well. He also taught Luke numerous other Sith and Jedi arts.

We have DE Luke casually bringing down starships and war machines with just plain gestures. We have Sidious as of ROTS being declared the most powerful Sith in history in a combat scenario and before that, directly stated to be the most powerful Sith in all of Bane's order. DE sourcebook alluded to him being the mightiest Sith ever and called him a God in the Dark Side. LFL clarified that the 'Most powerful of the powerful' applied strictly to 5000 years ago. That summary covers only up to 5000 BBY. anyone with any skill in grammar can see that: It says "Now he is dead and others will come to take his place."

Know something else? Ragnos SERVED UNDER a DLOTS at one point in his life and whenever that DLOTS died, he fought Simus. That's all we know. It means, though, that there was a Dark Lord Ragnos did not or could not challenge and beat. Tom himself said there were extremely powerful Sith, but Palpatine had their knowledge and secrets.

I can argue straight from the text and from examples. What is written, unless retconned or declared invalid is canon as far as the EU is concerned and, with a lack in that, was know EACTLY what Sidious and knew and that he was incredibly powerful

Originally posted by Lightsnake
Well, Kevin J. Anderson, when asked, cited Kun as the strongest of the Ancient Times, without any doubt. When pressed, accordin to KJA, Palpatine and Exar would have to fight before the title of strongest Sith would be determined...Marka is clearly not put on top. Nai believes Tom Veitch created Ragnos so Kevin cannot make definite statements, so I email Tom from his posted site.

Tom and I chat a bit...I ask him questions, he answers, also saying that Palpatine had the most knowledge in that he took all of the secrets of the Ancient Sith and Jedi and added some of his own, which is exactly what published, canon material states. Tom says that among the true powers of the Sith, Palpatine was one of the best at, and comparitively, Exar Kun was an adept woith an ego problem.

Going further, Palpatine invented his own instakil that he was rather proud of: Reach out with your anger and snuff out someone's life instantly. He taught it to Luke, along with the defense he invented as well. He also taught Luke numerous other Sith and Jedi arts

1. Show me where all of this is said.
2. What instakill did he invent?
3. I have emailed him with my question so I will keep you posted, if he answers it in your favor I will shut up but I have my doubts.
4. Again, I really want to see where he put Exar Kun ahead of Ragnos, because it makes zero sense, and when I say zero I mean 0.

I posted the email for you.
The ability to reach out with your anger, even across space and kill a man instantly with your rage.
Which question's that, now?
Get over it. I asked Kevin who the strongest Sith was, and Kevin told me0after I clarified what times meant and he said Kun was the strongest of his time...when I clarified Kun's time as with the Ancients

Get over what? That your information is as canon as Wikipedia? Post the exact email instead of making shit up or going through great lengths to prove no point. Seriously, you really think that I would sit here and believe you when you conveniently state that you talk to the authors of the SW comic books and they agree with every word you say? Please.. I am well aware of the lengths star wars fans would go through to boost their character. I emailed Kevin Anderson with 2-3 questions, and unlike you I will post scans of the emails that are accurate, whether it's saying what you are saying or what I am. But you telling me "my information is canon because I talk to TOm and he told me", is like me saying "Oh wikipedia is C-Canon".

Now, DS, Lightsnake has provided you with far more proof than you have ever given either one of us.

The burden of proof will now be on your part. You will prove to us that Ragnos is superior, and you will prove to us that Sadow didn't require his energy, otherwise this debate is over.

Escape, I don't know how you are sitting here telling me Lightsnake telling me "Oh well emailed me and told me blah blah blah", is a canon source.. I mean I don't expect much from a star wars forums but there is a fine line between bullshit and fact.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Escape, I don't know how you are sitting here telling me Lightsnake telling me "Oh well emailed me and told me blah blah blah", is a canon source.. I mean I don't expect much from a star wars forums but there is a fine line between bullshit and fact.

I forgot to add that I don't have to prove that Sadow DIDNT need his ship or tools. Asking to prove a negative is illogical. YOU have to prove that he NEEDED the tools.