ROTS Anakin and ROTS Obi Wan Kenobi versus Darth Revan and Darth Malak

Started by Darth Sexy7 pages

Whoa whoa appeal to probability? Explain that one Sama? I just explained to you that if Revan is stronger than Malak, not to mention this is a light side Revan, what in the WORLD would make him need to use cheap tactics? Explain that, prove that, give me situations where that's happened before. AFter all that, since you're hellbent on proving Revan=nothing, please provide how Anakin>Revan.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Whoa whoa appeal to probability? Explain that one Sama?

You're saying that because Revan is stronger than Malak while being empowered by the Star Forge (and where's the proof anyways?) that it's inevitable to think Revan used a cheap shot, or anything else other than Revan pwned Malak fairly. It's appeal to probability because just on the account of the fact that something is likely to happen (and I'd submit that's not even likely given Star Wars duels as a whole), that's what happened (or at least, that's how you're treating it).

I just explained to you that if Revan is stronger than Malak, not to mention this is a light side Revan, what in the WORLD would make him need to use cheap tactics?

What does him being Lightside has to do with anything? Obi-Wan in TPM was Lightside, Obi-Wan in ROTS was Lightside, and so on. It's also not just "cheap tactics", it's a lucky shot, too. What makes me believe that? You saying Malak is described as "unstoppable", Malak being a pure brute and more than likely physically stronger than Revan, and Malak using eight Jedi to drain life from makes me think he could've used a lucky shot, or a cheap trick to win.

Also the fact it's unknown, and it doesn't even have to be likely to happen.

Explain that,

Just did.

prove that,

Prove what? We don't even know what happened, so WTF is there for me to "prove"? You can only explain a thought that's surrounded by circumstances unknown.

give me situations where that's happened before.

ROTS? TPM (from both Maul and Kenobi)? Hell, it's even possible Revan tapped into the Darkside to defeat Malak a la TPM Kenobi, and ROTJ Luke (notice they still remained fully to the Lightside).

On top of the facts, I don't have to give you anything; because it doesn't have to happen before to happen again.

AFter all that, since you're hellbent on proving Revan=nothing, please provide how Anakin>Revan.

Sexy, if you're going to bombard me with questions, at least make sure they are in league with each other. WTF does me disproving your theories on how much the Star Forge powers its user, and explaining that there's more than one possibility for how Revan beat Malak have to do with Anakin > Revan?

You are the one making the assertions of Revan > Anakin, I'm simply answering said assertions, and questioning them as well. Currently, I'm not even thinking about how good Anakin is in comparison to Revan, I'm thinking about Revan's defeat of Malak and the Star Forge as an actual event.

And "hellbent"? Please. I just can't stand KOTOR fanboys who think Revan > all because of unknown events, and then go as far as to use that as means for an argument.

Revan=/all.. Nobody ever said that, so please stop assuming things putting words into my mouth, and using a baseless personal attack in calling me a Revan fanboy, it's a logical fallacy and untrue. And for the last time, if you read the KOTOR storyline, it would state exactly that Revan was more powerful than even a star forge powered Malak, while Malak says the same thing near his death, including "You are stronger than you were when you were the Dark Lord". So there's your proof.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Revan=/all.. Nobody ever said that, so please stop assuming things and putting words into my mouth.

In your mouth? That last statement was in general. It wasn't to you, so don't assume just because I put in a reply to you that it is to you. Let me go over that with you:

And "hellbent"? Please. I just can't stand KOTOR fanboys (plural) who think Revan > all (exaggeration) because of unknown events, and then go as far as to use that as means for an argument.

So unless you are a KOTOR fanboy, and unless you think Revan > all - then I don't know why you're responding. On top of all that, "Revan > all" is an exaggeration.

And for the last time, if you read the KOTOR storyline, it would state exactly that Revan was more powerful than even a star forge powered Malak,

Read what? What in the world is the "KOTOR storyline"?

while Malak says the same thing near his death, including "You are stronger than you were when you were the Dark Lord". So there's your proof.

You call Malak's statement proof? 🙄

Just because he's stronger than his Dark Lord incarnate, doesn't mean he's more powerful than Malak empowered by the Star Forge. All it really means...well, is just that - he's stronger than his Darkside incarnation.

On the other hand, WTF is the "KOTOR storyline"?

That Revan becomes more powerful than a star forge powered Malak.

No, WTF is "the KOTOR storyline"? I.e. Not the quote, WTF is it, lol.