cap vs spider-man

Started by Unknown Debator134 pages

This is not spite, but very one-sided.

Cap is more skilled? Who cares if he is able to grab and pressuring Spidey to death, if Spidey have punched him with extreme speed and force before he can react properly? Superhumanreflexes or superhumanspeed is not a part of Caps power-set.

Point out where in the scan it said that pete's body recovered in three seconds.

Go ahead.

Anyways, the fact of the matter is, anyone who believes that Pete was just about to 'turn the tables' is ignorant. The entire fight was geared towards Cap.

Not to mention the fact the only reason Pete even got that lucky scratch on Cap was due to a weapon he no longer possesses.

That fight was PIS, and i assume we uses LOGIC here on KMC, not that you can fight people many times stronger and faster than yourself, even through your more skilled, which wont help when your opponent is too fast for you to react.

Cao have nowhere near the speedfeats that Spidey have.

Cap has plenty of speed feats to match Spidey's. I've gone into it with Metal Man before, trust me. Also, he obviously CAN react against Spidey, since he's done it on multiple occasions. With Spidey and with people even FASTER than Spidey.

Originally posted by CasanoVa
You suck at never returning, I'll tell you that 😬

They are two very iconic characters. No matter the odds, they wanted to set them in a even fight for their fanbases.

Untrue and a cop-out defense.

Also;

Originally posted by CasanoVa
You suck at never returning, I'll tell you that 😬

I just wanna say that supreme martial artists/fighters are HIGHLY underrated.

2 cents.

Originally posted by Soljer
Point out where in the scan it said that pete's body recovered in three seconds.

Figure of speech of course... I thought that was pretty clear.
Anyways, the fact of the matter is, anyone who believes that Pete was just about to 'turn the tables' is ignorant. The entire fight was geared towards Cap.

So that must explain why the pressure points didn't work (or only very shortly). Or why Spider-Man took away his shield. Or made him bleed.
Not to mention the fact the only reason Pete even got that lucky scratch on Cap was due to a weapon he no longer possesses.

Not to mention the fact that if I were Spider-Man, I would have just webbed him up. Spider-Man has webbed up much more stronger, dangerous and/or faster targets than CA.

[QUOTE=8775535]Originally posted by Soljer
[B]Untrue and a cop-out defense.

Can he block punches that are so fast they should fly right through his arms?

And cop-out defense? Claiming that fight werent pis is cop-out defense. Cap would get shaked as hell just BLOCKING Spideys attacks

PIS? "I don't like it, it didn't happen."

Also, to Kurdy; Pressure Points have worked on Spiderman in the past. Iron Fist and Shang Chi have both Pressure Pointed Spiderman, I believe Iron Fist even knocked him out using that method (though they weren't in a direct confrontation at the time). The fact that Captain America didn't land a deciding hit within the first few seconds of the match does NOT mean that Cap was helpless.

Also, Spidey hardly 'took away his shield,' but rather, was GIVEN Cap's shield so that Cap could create an opening. Not that big of a deal.

Lastly; "Not to mention the fact that if I were [Captain America], I would have just [knocked] him [out]. [Captain America] has [knocked out] much more stronger (sic), dangerous and/or faster targets than [SM]. "

See how easy that is? 🙄.

Originally posted by Unknown Debator And cop-out defense? Claiming that fight werent pis is cop-out defense. Cap would get shaked as hell just BLOCKING Spideys attacks

Very true. Unless he hides behind his shield, Cap would be flying.

Spider-Man isn't just "a bit" stronger, he's waaaay stronger.

I am using no facts from that fight in neither Spidey or Caps favor, so stop talking about that shit, and Shang Chi andIron Fist have skills way out of Caps league anyways.

If i was just... SIX times stronger and faster than Bruce Lee, i would still defeat him. And the difference here is much bigger

Originally posted by Soljer

Lastly; "Not to mention the fact that if I were [Captain America], I would have just [knocked] him [out]. [Captain America] has [knocked out] much more stronger (sic), dangerous and/or faster targets than [SM]. "

Such as ?

Originally posted by Kid Kurdy
Very true. Unless he hides behind his shield, Cap would be flying.

Spider-Man isn\'t just \"a bit\" stronger, he\'s waaaay stronger.

Sadly, Cap is so popular that his fanboys NEVER wanna see him down, while less-popular guys like Hulk are WISHED down...

When Cap defeats Spiderman, its fair and square, he is better.
But when Wolveirne defeats Hulk? Nah, pis...

They are two-sided and uses PIS facts for their fights.

Originally posted by Unknown Debator
I am using no facts from that fight in neither Spidey or Caps favor, so stop talking about that shit, and Shang Chi andIron Fist have skills way out of Caps league anyways.

If i was just... SIX times stronger and faster than Bruce Lee, i would still defeat him. And the difference here is much bigger

Captain America is more skilled than both Shang Chi and Danny Rand.

Also; Bruce Lee is no Captain America. I don't understand how people can so readily accept the idea of being super-strong, super-fast or super-smart, but not super-skilled.

It makes no sense. 😐.

As we've seen, time and time again, Captain America's skill advantage can close the gap between him and much stronger and/or faster opponents.

Originally posted by Soljer
Captain America is more skilled than both Shang Chi and Danny Rand.

Also; Bruce Lee is no Captain America. I don\\\\\\\'t understand how people can so readily accept the idea of being super-strong, super-fast or super-smart, but not super-skilled.

It makes no sense. 😐.

As we\\\\\\\'ve seen, time and time again, Captain America\\\\\\\'s skill advantage can close the gap between him and much stronger and/or faster opponents.

Why dont you bring up some examples where the gap is as big as this without being incredible cheesy or pissed?

And skills are good, but annulated if the speed-difference is too big

Originally posted by Unknown Debator
Sadly, Cap is so popular that his fanboys NEVER wanna see him down, while less-popular guys like Hulk are WISHED down...

When Cap defeats Spiderman, its fair and square, he is better.
But when Wolveirne defeats Hulk? Nah, pis...

They are two-sided and uses PIS facts for their fights.

Are you stoned? The Hulk IS one of the most popular characters in Marvel, closely behind Spiderman (who is number 1) and Wolverine (who is number 2).

Meh, I'll still discuss with you, Kurdy, but the latest judge is on my ignore list now, so if I don't respond to something he may point out, don't think that I'm just ignoring it or can't answer.

Originally posted by Soljer
Are you stoned? The Hulk IS one of the most popular characters in Marvel, closely behind Spiderman (who is number 1) and Wolverine (who is number 2).

Hulk WAS one of the more popular characters. He is cool enough, but his sales are dropping. A funny, angry green man is fun until its no longer original

Soljer sucks at debating, i owns him when i goes serious... Humiliating??
He simply puts me on ignore, because nothing could save him and Caps ass out of this.