cap vs spider-man

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Originally posted by Soljer
Steve's shield hitting the missile is cannon, it can't just be disregarded, especially since Captain America performing something like that with his shield is not out of character.

The escape velocity WAS hyperbole, because there is no way Captain America is going to be tossing his shield with that much speed over and over again, while worrying about an onslaught of webbing.

eer Missiles vary in speed but generally travel at more than a kilometre per second or Mach 3. As said before, don't be foolish. It can and will be disregarded as stupidity on the part of a writer or artist or both.
Originally posted by Soljer
Also, I never said that current Spider-man instantly loses at close range. Out of the 5/10 that Spider-man doesn't just web and pound Steve, I would say he wins 2. Steve's three wins being the others out of that five.

Also, the only part I need quote is this:
[QUOTE=7120351]Originally posted by Soljer
[B]Only because I find it hilarious that you point out the very thing that we are debating, IS in fact debatable!


It's like someone eating some a steak and going "This T-bone is edible!" 😆 [/B][/QUOTE] When people disagree on things the thing is then debatable. It was an expression of my disagreement with your surmise.
Originally posted by Soljer
No shot at you, I definitely agree that whether Cap can force/draw/find Spider-man in close quarters is debatable. Obviously, I think Steve is capable of it, and others (yourself included, I would assume) do not.
Based on Spider-Man being faster, in both reflexive and movement speed, more agile, precognitive, having the abilities of stealth, wall crawling and webbing. The likelihood of drawing him into close range unless he A) is retarded, or B) wants to be drawn in is lower than 5/10, I would go further and say lower than 3/10.

So the fact that spiderman, on panel has been pushed around by cap, has nothing to do with your arguement. Thats like when the chicago bulls were top ranked and basically undeatable.. and could never beat the raptors a team by all considerations shouldn't be able to beat the chicago bulls but did not just once, but in almost every game they played. Even when the bulls had jordan. cough.

Stats say one them. Actual events show another. Statwise, yes, spiderman should beat captain america. If you think about it that way, upstarts should never have a chance against heavyset opposition...

Thats why AMD is doing so well against Intel. Even currently having AMD gain the backing of IBM, Gateway, and Dell. Even when initial reports said AMD was gonna get the way of the wind within 2 years.

Yep. Oh.. what... why am I arguing in this manner? guess. If on panel evidence doesn't work anymore, I'm gonna go with theoretical hearsy. and statisical nonsense.

In a basketball game... or the computer industry ( 🤨 ) there are no external parties writing an outcome that disregards the abilities of one party. What's it called when a more powerful character doesn't fight to the best of their abilities even within their personality range for the sake of making another less powerful character appear a challenge or to advance the plot? I forget.

Spidey wins. Cap loses 100% of the time to a "not f**king around anymore" Spidey

Originally posted by brainchild81
Spidey wins. Cap loses 100% of the time to a "not f**king around anymore" Spidey

Listen dont come in the thread at the end, without bothering to read the rest.

READ, the other posts before barging in here and chatting rubbish.

Its true Cap loses know, anyone who thinks he can win is very stupid. Now all you raise your hands. 😉

Originally posted by jinzin
and if you had read the whole book you'd know that up to that point wolvie was infact holding back on steve.. AND when wolverine DID rail cap.. it wasn't from behind.. cap turns around and says no before wolvie pounded him.... he was already facing wolverine by the time the attack was launched... AND IF cap had tried to use that sword on wolverine... which he did... all it would (and did) accomplish would be to make wolvie go berseker and waste him.. hell cap couldn't do anything for very long anyhow. He tried..hell he keeps trying in the very next issue... and wolvie punks him, cyclops, AND hellion without much effort... cap lost AGAIN... face it.
cap didnt lose...he got attacked after an interference. FACE IT

and i was talking about this barrage jinzy-pooh

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But it's okay for Cap to say something... right.

It doesn't mean jack because you don't want it to. And it depends on the skill of the athlete. Cap is the best a human can get, pure and simple. Whether you like it or not, I need to see where he has become superhuman otherwise.

Handbooks? Cap is characterized at that amount, and feats are always up for speculization in the forum. PIS for example.

Namor is classified at 85 tons out of the water anyways.

You've not heard me say that any superhuman feat Cap does at all. Hell, I can do a superhuman feat given the motivation, as can anyone on the planet. Cap doesn't have a default superhuman ability, he can achieve feats of superhuman prowress with enough effort, but he just can't do it on Spiderman's level when spiderman is trying. Common sense really.

You've yet to show proof for what you are saying. You made an argument and I'm waiting for your conclusion. You already made a bunch of statements about Thor that are blatantly wrong as it is. So go ahead.

Cant be bothered....I think Soljer has answered all your questions with his post.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
But it's okay for Cap to say something... right.

It doesn't mean jack because you don't want it to. And it depends on the skill of the athlete. Cap is the best a human can get, pure and simple. Whether you like it or not, I need to see where he has become superhuman otherwise.

Handbooks? Cap is characterized at that amount, and feats are always up for speculization in the forum. PIS for example.

Namor is classified at 85 tons out of the water anyways.

You've not heard me say that any superhuman feat Cap does at all. Hell, I can do a superhuman feat given the motivation, as can anyone on the planet. Cap doesn't have a default superhuman ability, he can achieve feats of superhuman prowress with enough effort, but he just can't do it on Spiderman's level when spiderman is trying. Common sense really.

You've yet to show proof for what you are saying. You made an argument and I'm waiting for your conclusion. You already made a bunch of statements about Thor that are blatantly wrong as it is. So go ahead.

whoah dude you can throw 800pounds effortlessly if you need to??

Originally posted by King KAM
whoah dude you can throw 800pounds effortlessly if you need to??
i was wondering that too.

Originally posted by King KAM
and i was talking about this barrage jinzy-pooh
god is that bad art!!

Originally posted by bigbran
i was wondering that too.
and apparnantly he can dodge bullets from assault rifles and run 1mile in just under a minute, good god... C-master you are the man

Originally posted by bigbran
god is that bad art!!
and once again the fight between cap and wolverine was on wolverine side because of some idiot being there.

Originally posted by King KAM
and once again the fight between cap and wolverine was on wolverine side because of some idiot being there.

That's not entirely true.

Originally posted by who?-kid
That's not entirely true.
cap was escorting wolverine just fine and some douche grabs at his ankles.

Originally posted by King KAM
and apparnantly he can dodge bullets from assault rifles and run 1mile in just under a minute, good god... C-master you are the [b]man [/B]
😆 😆
those damn inhanced humans! they could throw a car, if they got mad.

Originally posted by King KAM
whoah dude you can throw 800pounds effortlessly if you need to??
😆 You know what I mean Kam, what a load of crap!

😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆 😆

Originally posted by King KAM
cap was escorting wolverine just fine and some douche grabs at his ankles.

Wasn't Cap already on the ground before that, bleeding, and didn't he attack Wolverine from behind while Wolverine was talking and talking and talking with his back towards Cap ?

I can be mistaken, but if blood lust was on, Wolverine could easily have killed Captain America back then.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Wasn't Cap already on the ground before that, bleeding, and didn't he attack Wolverine from behind while Wolverine was talking and talking and talking with his back towards Cap ?

I can be mistaken, but if blood lust was on, Wolverine could easily have killed Captain America back then.

yeah but then again Cap could of killed wolverine when he had the muramasa. And yes cap attacked him from behind, yes he could of just tried to kill wolverine with the shield throw,but that wouldnt be very fun to read.