cap vs spider-man

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Based on Spider-Man being faster, in both reflexive and movement speed, more agile, precognitive, having the abilities of stealth, wall crawling and webbing. The likelihood of drawing him into close range unless he A) is retarded, or B) wants to be drawn in is lower than 5/10, I would go further and say lower than 3/10.

Ok lets be fair. Spidey uses stealth mode Cap is going down. If he doesnt or cant I can still see why you would say less than 3/10, but you got to bear in mind that Spiderman is not more intelligent than Cap, Cap is defintely a better strategist. You can bet your bottom dollar if you get a load of heroes and spiderman and cap are there they are gonna pick Cap for leader.

As for the pre-cog it can be beaten and Cap has done that.

Even if Spidey keeps his distance, Cap is not exactly gonna stand still and let him web him. The fights not gonna take place in a desert is it? Its gonna take place in an urban area.

If anything if Spidey trys to keep his distance Cap will do the same.

Another thing, everyone knows that Spiderman is faster and has greater relexes than Cap, but...there is not a HUGE gap.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Another thing, everyone knows that Spiderman is faster and has greater relexes than Cap, but...there is not a HUGE gap.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Another thing, everyone knows that Spiderman is faster and has greater relexes than Cap, but...there is not a HUGE gap.

Originally posted by King Kam
and apparnantly he can dodge bullets from assault rifles and run 1mile in just under a minute, good god... C-master you are the man

Thank you. 🙂

Anyways, a person can do things beyond what a human can given the dire situation, and yes people can dodge bullets. There's a difference regardless between dodging and missing. Spiderman dodges. IF he didn't move, he'd have been hit, that's difference between missing on behalf of the marksman.

Cap throws his shield at about 70, so him running at 60 seems to be a bit... ridiculous, sorry. Unless it's in a short burst, in which the "mile a minute" wouldn't matter. A person can easily move extremely fast in a short burst. You're arguing with the wrong person in THAT kind of field.

Originally posted by rotiart
Stats say one them.

And they are solid and not inconsistent, I'm glad you are catching on.

Originally posted by rotiart
Actual events show another.

And they have a certain "suspension" of belief. You can't argue "what would happen in a comic" because this is a versus forum, fan bases and other things don't matter, it's not a wrestling match where things HAVE to look good.

Originally posted by rotiart
Statwise, yes, spiderman should beat captain america.

Therefore he does here unless he is inflicted with severe CIS, a totally different thing altogether.

Originally posted by rotiart
If you think about it that way, upstarts should never have a chance against heavyset opposition...

Give this man a hand.

Originally posted by rotiart
Thats why AMD is doing so well against Intel. Even currently having AMD gain the backing of IBM, Gateway, and Dell. Even when initial reports said AMD was gonna get the way of the wind within 2 years.

Terrible example, that's a prediction and nothing else. The actual event would be a statistic.

Originally posted by rotiart
Yep. Oh.. what... why am I arguing in this manner? guess. If on panel evidence doesn't work anymore, I'm gonna go with theoretical hearsy. and statisical nonsense.

but cap didnt just run a mile in a minute, he ran 5miles in under 6 minutes. 😐

Supersoldier serum, he can run at his best without fatigung, so pardon that. Still not quite 60.

I raise my question again, if Cap runs 60 (almost the speed of his shield still sounds proposterous), how fast should Spiderman run? Someone entertain me...

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
almost the speed of his shield still sounds proposterous

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
His shield moves at Mach 3 and gravitational force causes it to accelerate up...

That really doesn't give any indication of a speed a great deal faster than 70 mph. 😬 Scan? I recall seeing it but can't remember what it looked like.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
That really doesn't give any indication of a speed a great deal faster than 70 mph. 😬 Scan? I recall seeing it but can't remember what it looked like.

here it is

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Yes there is including his recent upgrade as well. Spiderman is much faster, and has better reflexes.

No he has improved but he is not MUCH faster dont exaggerate. Thats why somone said that Spidey can lift 20, there is most likely a 5% increase. Also Captain America has fought Spider before BUT, this time he has studied his style as well.

Originally posted by Tha C-Master
Cap throws his shield at about 70, so him running at 60 seems to be a bit... ridiculous, sorry.
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Ok so what the math dont add up. You think I cant get loads of examples of other heroes doing stuff they should not be able to do.

Ok so what about all the other superheroes with superhuman abilities compâring themselves to them....all that is BS?

You also said this..

Originally posted by Tha C-Master

Namor is classified at 85 tons out of the water anyways.

Ok so what do you think?

Originally posted by King KAM
here it is

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's hard to discern exactly what's occurring due to confusing art, the shield seems to go from beside the truck to behind it, the girl seems to teleport and CA's arms are in a bizarre position. But assuming the shield was thrown in some manner into the truck, one really can't surmise a speed from that, let alone any speed a great deal more than 70 mph.

Originally posted by King KAM
and it had to be traveling over 70miles per hour to do so.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
How so?

Ok lets do some math, the speed of light is aprroxiametly 185,000 miles per second.

Something tells me that even if your reflexes are 40 times that of a human you should still not be able to dodge lasers all the time.

Originally posted by King KAM
because the truck has greater mass meaning that in order tear through those engine parts like that the shield since lighter would need an extremley high velocity to do so considering it only weighs 12pounds

Spider-Man will win this match!

Originally posted by Alfheim
Ok lets do some math, the speed of light is aprroxiametly 185,000 miles per second.

Something tells me that even if your reflexes are 40 times that of a human you should still not be able to dodge lasers all the time.

AHEM!!!!! 😐