Naga Sadow vs. Kyle Katarn & Mara Jade

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I disagree with your way of looking at the quote. If Jedi are opposed to violence then a time with as little violence as there had ever been would be their golden age. The golden age of the Sith is very different from the golden age of the Jedi. Most NJO- Jedi would stop most PT Jedi.

You've all seen my theory on the difference between the Golden Age of the Jedi and Golden Age of the sith, so I don't have to repeat that. Now, most NJO Jedi can beat most PT Jedi? If I recall the only one that would take anyone down is NJO Luke. None of the NJO Jedi except Kyp Durron come close to the likes of Windu, Yoda, and Dooku, so I don't agree with that statement..

Oh and Escape, what the hell are you talking about? When did I ever have respect for him and when was he arguing for me? My opinion of people doesn't change, but it's nice to see some hopeless ones have some kind of common sense.

Erm.. Thanks?

No offense to you but you make absolutely make no sense comparing Kyle to an ancient sith.

Why not?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I disagree with your way of looking at the quote. If Jedi are opposed to violence then a time with as little violence as there had ever been would be their golden age. The golden age of the Sith is very different from the golden age of the Jedi. Most NJO- Jedi would stop most PT Jedi.

How the hell can you disagree with how I'm looking at the quote? He said 'in lightsaber ability'. That means that the PT was the strongest point of the Jedi as far as lightsaber ability is concerned. You wanna argue it? Take it up with Lucas.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No offense to you but you make absolutely make no sense comparing Kyle to an ancient sith.

In dueling abilities. How does that make no sense? We all know that the ancient sith relied and worked on their sith magic and alchemy rather than dueling, whereas the NJO mostly relied on their dueling ability because their use of the force was severly diminished by the Vong.
Kyle Katurn was at least the second best duelist in that order. There's not even proof that Sadow was one of the top duelists in his order, especially considering that it seems he spent too much time with sith magic and alchemy (especially), even for a sith.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
No offense to you but you make absolutely make no sense comparing Kyle to an ancient sith.

Look, DS, I'd agree that Sadow would win - but I doubt that he would pwn them just a straight up "saber to sword" duel, given Sadow's primary occupation as an "alchemist".

Furthermore, we've already disproven the Ancient > Everyone else theory, as LotF Luke is above any of the Ancient Sith.

In an all out fight, I agree. He could take them. But Katarn and Jade are damn good in lightsaber ability.

The GA of the Jedi was the PT and that was their strongest time until Luke's NJO came around pretty much.

Originally posted by Escape81
How the hell can you disagree with how I'm looking at the quote? He said 'in lightsaber ability'. That means that the PT was the strongest point of the Jedi as far as lightsaber ability is concerned. You wanna argue it? Take it up with Lucas.

Again, he didn't say in regards to saber combat.

"See the Jedi fighting in the Prime of the Jedi."

Originally posted by Lightsnake
The GA of the Jedi was the PT and that was their strongest time until Luke's NJO came around pretty much.

Yes, and with the exception of a few (Luke, Kyp), I'd still put the PT higher.

Originally posted by Lightsnake
"See the Jedi fighting in the Prime of the Jedi."

Well imo that article and video was disregarding the entire EU, as Lucas was basically speaking in a coreographic point of view, which would mean just the films.

Too freaking bad. He doesn't need to give 'regard' to the EU...he says it. It goes

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Well imo that article and video was disregarding the entire EU, as Lucas was basically speaking in a coreographic point of view, which would mean just the films.

No one cares about your opinion. Lucas said that about the PT. Not the NJO. Not KotoR. The Prequel Trilogy. Don't argue canon. Get over it.

The whole article and video was talking about coreography and comparing the OT to the PT in that way. When Lucas stated it, it was also very vague and ambiguous.

Now I'm sorry to say this Escape, but you are turning into Sorgo. I used to look at you as a member similar to someone such as Faunus or Dipsit, but it seems that being a top dog of this forum has gotten to your head.

Originally posted by Escape81
Look, DS, I'd agree that Sadow would win - but I doubt that he would pwn them just a straight up "saber to sword" duel, given Sadow's primary occupation as an "alchemist".

Furthermore, we've already disproven the Ancient > Everyone else theory, as LotF Luke is above any of the Ancient Sith.

In an all out fight, I agree. He could take them. But Katarn and Jade are damn good in lightsaber ability.

Perhaps he wouldn't PWN them in a straight up saber duel considering we know very little about his dueling capabilities. However in terms of overall power he was second to Ragnos, not to mention his physical power was impressive.. And I already said by NJO or probably DN, Luke>All.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
The whole article and video was talking about coreography and comparing the OT to the PT in that way. When Lucas stated it, it was also very vague and ambiguous.

Omg!

Is everything that doesn't support the Ancient Sith or KotoR vague and ambiguous to you? Lucas said that the PT is the prime of the Jedi where lightsaber skills are concerned. He's canon, he's the Star Wars law. He sure as hell blows your opinion out of the water.

Originally posted by Sith'ari
Now I'm sorry to say this Escape, but you are turning into Sorgo. I used to look at you as a member similar to someone such as Faunus or Dipsit, but it seems that being a top dog of this forum has gotten to your head.

If it talks about the Prime of Jedi fighting then it is so. Notice how in TOTJ there were only a few lightsaber prodigies compared to the PT, where there were 5-6.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
If it talks about the Prime of Jedi fighting then it is so. Notice how in TOTJ there were only a few lightsaber prodigies compared to the PT, where there were 5-6.

Thank you.