Post Star Forge Revan & ROTS Obi-Wan vs. ROTS Mace & Kyle Katarn

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
You're missing the entire post Kam. If Revan was the superior fighter/force user(which he was), why would he win by luck?

Well since we don't know how the fight was played out, they could have been awefully near equal in their fight. . We don't know the fight except that Revan won in the end. Malak is the deciding factor here, how good is he really without the Star Forge?

And Nebaris.
Ok, that really looks like his armor, I've only watched it breifley before. He still had enhancment things on him, like that mask and all that. Hadn't Revan also picked up things from the Ancient sith?

Originally posted by kamikz
Well since we don't know how the fight was played out, they could have been awefully near equal in their fight. . We don't know the fight except that Revan won in the end. Malak is the deciding factor here, how good is he really without the Star Forge?

And Nebaris.
Ok, that really looks like his armor, I've only watched it breifley before. He still had enhancment things on him, like that mask and all that. Hadn't Revan also picked up things from the Ancient sith?

How good is Malak? Good enough to be the best out of the sith and Jedi by himself without the Star Forge(not counting Revan). He constantly says the the SF gives him more power and fuels his dark side abilities.

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Originally posted by Advent
What doth thou speaketh? Verily I bestow upon ye a crimson scroll. Forsooth, you shalt be vanquished, and sent to thy pits of despair! My patience draws to a close of thine accursed writings upon thine accursed forums.

I proclaim thou shalt bow thine heads to the divine decree laid downeth by thy Royal Queen. Hail! Thou punishment shalt cost thee three hundred gold shillings, or thou shalt die by my hand.

That heroin must be kicking in huh?

Wait, is this ROTS Kyle Katarn?

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
How good is Malak? Good enough to be the best out of the sith and Jedi by himself without the Star Forge(not counting Revan). He constantly says the the SF gives him more power and fuels his dark side abilities.

Ok so how good is everyone else in the KOTOR era? How would they mesure against people like Mace? Could we get more info, cause saying he was the best out of one era is not enough....

Yes, it's ROTS Kyle Katurn.

Originally posted by kamikz
Ok so how good is everyone else in the KOTOR era? How would they mesure against people like Mace? Could we get more info, cause saying he was the best out of one era is not enough....

If that era was one of strife and constant warfare against an enemy superior to Mace's, than yes it is.

Originally posted by Adas
Yes, it's ROTS Kyle Katurn.

That's f*cked up. 😛

Originally posted by kamikz
Ok so how good is everyone else in the KOTOR era? How would they mesure against people like Mace? Could we get more info, cause saying he was the best out of one era is not enough....

I'd imagine Revan's era had as much, if not more warfare than the PT era. From the Sith War to the Jedi Civil War, which I feel was the bloodiest and most devastating war up until the Vong arrived in the galaxy. As a whole, the KOTR era Jedi weren't that great. But you have the likes of Kreia, Revan, Malak, who were the best, and some of their power is apparent. Kreia's force knowledge is almost unrivaled. Malak also had the ability to force drain but not on Kreia's level, and Revan was, well Revan.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
That heroin must be kicking in huh?

Yada.

Wakarimasen. Motto yukkuri hanashite kudasai.

I don't know if that's a nerd language or japanese or a mixture of both.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I don't know if that's a nerd language or japanese but I'm going to go with the former.

Chau chau.

Basically, you're wrong. It's the latter, fool.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
I'd imagine Revan's era had as much, if not more warfare than the PT era. From the Sith War to the Jedi Civil War, which I feel was the bloodiest and most devastating war up until the Vong arrived in the galaxy. As a whole, the KOTR era Jedi weren't that great. But you have the likes of Kreia, Revan, Malak, who were the best, and some of their power is apparent. Kreia's force knowledge is almost unrivaled. Malak also had the ability to force drain but not on Kreia's level, and Revan was, well Revan.

Just because the KOTOR era was at war doesn't necessarily mean they have to be better at fighting. The PT era had thousands of years to refine techniques, create new techniques and so on. Can't we judge Malak's power in any way? How good a swordsman was he? Didn't he lose to Kavar? (I remember someone saying Malak lost his jaw to a jedi in battle)
What did he do that was impressing force wise? Anything near the things Mace did?

See this is just what we are talking about. There is almost nothing to support Malak's power, so how can we judge Revan's just because he beat Malak?

And Kreia did not learn that ability later, and she grew alot more powerful after the battle of Malachor 5.

[logic censor] Malak was the most powerful out of thousands. He must be on Mace's level [/logic censor]

Originally posted by Advent
[logic censor] Malak was the most powerful out of thousands. He must be on Mace's level [/logic censor]

Nobody said Malak was on Mace's level, reading comprehension please SomeTingWong.

Originally posted by kamikz
Just because the KOTOR era was at war doesn't necessarily mean they have to be better at fighting. The PT era had thousands of years to refine techniques, create new techniques and so on. Can't we judge Malak's power in any way? How good a swordsman was he? Didn't he lose to Kavar? (I remember someone saying Malak lost his jaw to a jedi in battle)
What did he do that was impressing force wise? Anything near the things Mace did?

See this is just what we are talking about. There is almost nothing to support Malak's power, so how can we judge Revan's just because he beat Malak?

And Kreia did not learn that ability later, and she grew alot more powerful after the battle of Malachor 5.

I clearly stated that the KOTOR was more warlike but as a whole NOT better than the PT Jedi. Please tell me, what techniques did the PT era Jedi create? I'd like to know. And why are you comparing Mace to Malak? I was comparing Dooku to Malak and REvan to Mace, where did we even get this Mace=Malak comparison? Kreia was undoubtedly a very powerful force user.

Originally posted by Darth Sexy
Nobody said Malak was on Mace's level, reading comprehension please SomeTingWong.

Reading comprehension on what exactly? You say he's on Dooku's level, ergo he's on Mace's since I've yet to see one person that denies Dooku and Mace are on the same level, and any fight between them would last a long time. By level, it means just that - not that he is as strong, but he's close to it. And Dooku is on Mace's level.

And once again we have had arguments that ended with a regular Malak most likely being equal to Dooku, an empowered Malak>Dooku, and Revan>any forms of Malak. So what would that say about Mace? And Mace and Dooku are on the same level? Mace is better than Sidious in saber combat, but is Dooku? No.