What's wrong with being Liberal?

Started by Soleran16 pages
Originally posted by PVS
good, so you're a heartless elitist prick who feels that unskilled workers are beneath him and should be penalized for who they are by working every waking moment of their lives. lets move on, shall we?

Haha, that did give me a laugh though.

By the way its not penalized for who they are but rather what they do.

Originally posted by Bardock42
You seem pretty weird about that. You don't have to think that unskilled workers are beneath yourself to believe that minimum wages are shit.

the implication or rather outright statement was that its their own damn fault for being unskilled, and they should have to work many more hours just to live... so in essense: **** em.

whatever though, im done discussing it. it kinda makes me feel sick to know people look at others in such a way...especially at people who are pretty much the foundation of our economy.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Just cause Mel Gibson is right?

Well, I figured I'd throw that in there because what Mel Gibson says matters so very, very much.

Originally posted by PVS
the implication or rather outright statement was that its their own damn fault for being unskilled, and they should have to work many more hours just to live... so in essense: **** em.

Do you read your own words, so hilarious.

its their own damn fault for being unskilled

Yeah, who else could we possibly hold accountable to that, God, their mother, please such nonsense.

whatever though, im done discussing it. it kinda makes me feel like vomiting to know people look at others in such a way...people who are pretty much the foundation of our economy in fact.

Don't like then give up that big screen plasma tv to charity to an unskilled labor family and half your income then becuase its this system that allowed you to have your new car and tv and such.

Originally posted by FeceMan
Well, I figured I'd throw that in there because what Mel Gibson says matters so very, very much.

Well, at least I am pretty certain that Mel Gibson exists...that's a plus in my book.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Well, at least I am pretty certain that Mel Gibson exists...that's a plus in my book.

I'm not sure if unskilled workers actually exist.

Originally posted by Soleran
Do you read your own words, so hilarious.

[b]its their own damn fault for being unskilled

Yeah, who else could we possibly hold accountable to that, God, their mother, please such nonsense. [/B]

see what i mean? he views unskilled laborers as being at fault, and a problem/burden.

Originally posted by Soleran
Don't like then give up that big screen plasma tv to charity to an unskilled labor family and half your income then becuase its this system that allowed you to have your new car and tv and such.

yeah, thats how the system works. my tv and car are a result of me taking money from unskilled laborers.

Originally posted by PVS
see what i mean? he views unskilled laborers as being at fault, and a problem/burden.

My point is that unskilled laborers can learn something or change their job. You seem to assume thats all their capable of, I'm not sure if that's an insult to them or not. In your world it would practically be a compliment.

I have no problem with unskilled laborers, none, zero, zilch. It's middle income guys "fighting the good fight" that give me troubles.

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm not sure if unskilled workers actually exist.

Yeah, Mel Gibson beats them for sure...

Originally posted by Soleran
My point is that unskilled laborers can learn something or change their job. You seem to assume thats all their capable of, I'm not sure if that's an insult to them or not. In your world it would practically be a compliment.

I have no problem with unskilled laborers, none, zero, zilch. It's middle income guys "fighting the good fight" that give me troubles.

at this point i am certain that you are being a deliberate troll.
you still deny that unskilled laborers are needed and are the exact opposite of the burden you insist on labeling them as. oh, but you dont have a problem with them. what a forgiving person you are. a champion to humanity.

and i'm glad you have a problem with me. it comforts me to know self centered elitists like you dislike me. it helps me sleep at night.

Originally posted by Soleran
[b]its their own damn fault for being unskilled[/B]
Yeah, it can't be the fact that they can't afford the skills.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah, who else could we possibly hold accountable to that, God, their mother, please such nonsense.
No, people like you who don't care enough to give them money or anything.
Originally posted by Soleran
Don't like then give up that big screen plasma tv to charity to an unskilled labor family and half your income then becuase its this system that allowed you to have your new car and tv and such.
...

Lol more spin of words, I never even said I dislike you, just your fight of the pay for unskilled workers.

you still deny that unskilled laborers are needed and are the exact opposite of the burden you insist on labeling them as. oh, but you dont have a problem with them. what a forgiving person you are. a champion to humanity.

your translator must be talking out your ass again because it's just spewing more shit

Minimum wage is there for a service that warrents little value, not that its nor required. Think about that next time you get a glass of water, you need it, alot of it but are you willing to pay 50$ a glass for it, probably not with how available it is.

you have no grasp of wtf "unskilled labor" means and how it is essential to our economy. you think its just jobs that exist out of government charity, obligation to support the stupid, and kids looking for summer jobs, etc. i cant believe i wasted so much time and energy trying to talk sense into you.

Originally posted by Soleran

[b]its their own damn fault for being unskilled

. [/B]

what about immigrants who were educated in other languages. what aboutpeople with learning disabilities or who came from a violent backround. it isn't there fault their parents beat them when they were young. it isn't there fault they had to come to this country because there own couldn't support them. it isn't their fault they were born with a disability, and it isn't their fault that people like you are to busy admiring their own reflection in the mirror to realise that if they only turned around and looked into the face of someone else they might actually see a person. not an inanimate tool to help our economy.

Originally posted by Soleran
[b]its their own damn fault for being unskilled

Yeah, who else could we possibly hold accountable to that, God, their mother, please such nonsense. [/B]

Society?

Given the opportunity to learn, to not have to work long hours for minimum wage, you don't think that most people would? Are they happy in their menial jobs or are they just lazy?

Originally posted by Soleran
My point is that unskilled laborers can learn something or change their job. You seem to assume thats all their capable of, I'm not sure if that's an insult to them or not. In your world it would practically be a compliment.
Then who does their jobs?
And which unskilled minimum wage labourers do you expect to be able to afford education or upskilling while they do all the jobs most of the middle income guys "fighting the good fight" would never do for ~$5/hour for as many hours as humanly possible to meet basic financial requirements.
Originally posted by Soleran
I have no problem with unskilled laborers, none, zero, zilch. It's middle income guys "fighting the good fight" that give me troubles.
While the middle income guys "fight the good fight" so that they can get DSL or a PS3 or dishwasher or that really nice IKEA lounge suite, the lower income people and people living below the official poverty measure "wasting their lives doing unskilled labour" shouldn't be able to make ends meet.

Originally posted by FeceMan
You're an idiot.

F*ck you

Originally posted by FeceMan
I'm not going to bother replying to the rest of that mish-mash of crap you wrote.

Don't talk to me about crap Fecesman.....everything you write comes directly from your assh*le.

Originally posted by FeceMan
(By the way, Bush wants to lower taxes and is ANTI-JESUS: "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's," Jesus says. Therefore, lowering taxes is evil.)

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH...NO

Originally posted by Soleran
Do you read your own words, so hilarious.

Atleast he's not a hypocrit...

Originally posted by Soleran
its their own damn fault for being unskilled

WRONG. 👇 One of the largest myths amongs Conservatives is that poverty is the fault of the poor...it's not. It's the fault of Conservatives and the majority of the Government for sending low ass funds to certain areas, while send higher funds to favored areas. Whether these areas are favored due to racial, sexual, religious, or personal reasons is another story.

Other aspects such as family life, neighborhood violence, media, disabilities, health, etc. will have a large impact on someone's ability to learn and elevate themselves.

Originally posted by Soleran
Yeah, who else could we possibly hold accountable to that, God, their mother, please such nonsense.

God doesn't exist ❌ sorry.....

The Government, the media, gangs, Far Right Conservatives, hypocritical liberals, disease, depression, and scam employers are some of the many causes for poverty.

Originally posted by Soleran
Don't like then give up that big screen plasma tv to charity to an unskilled labor family and half your income then becuase its this system that allowed you to have your new car and tv and such.

Not every1 has a "new car" or "tv" and "such". Some people in this fkn country don't even have food ! WAKE UP IDIOT !

urizon, you may as well agree with him.
why is everyone so comfortable with the convoluded logic that
unskilled labor=poverty and unskilled laborers should all feel obligated to 'better' themselves...at the cost of an economic disaster. unskilled does not mean unsmart or unmotivated. its simply a line of work that is niether a trade nor a field of higher education. idiots then write it off as useless and deny them any respect, however 'not having a problem' with them.

there is no problem with working as an unskilled laborer, since they are the foundation of our economy.

this mentallity leads to "raising minimum wage = government charity". yes, its charity to pay someone fair and livable wages for pulling an honest and hard work week. this mentallity + the chicken little economic doom theory behind every frikin minimum wage increase are the reasons why nothing gets done. no respect, and no common sense.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Don't talk to me about crap Fecesman.....everything you write comes directly from your assh*le.

Ho-ho, what terrible wit.

Maybe Soleran is not talking about people who are employed in jobs that would be classified as 'unskilled' but rather people who completely lack skills and thus have no chance to better themselves and thus live in poverty?

i'm not completely liberal, but i'd rather be that than completely conservative =P