Pre Ret Con Beyonder Vs. THe Presence

Started by galan777777742 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
Who do you think you are child?

You acquire the Secret Wars series a couple of days ago

and now you think you know something. 😆

YOU'VE been CONTRADICTED Big Time,

but your intransigence doesn't allow you to see that,

your too bent on proving me wrong,

and your going in circles for it.

AND WHAT do you think the Beyond Realm was BEFORE Beyonder came to our Universe?

I guess I'll just DISINCORPORATE EXPAND to FILL

Or Actually, to BECOME the OL' BEYOND-REALM AGAIN

Your wasting my time my boy.

Here it is AGAIN for the LAST TIME!!!

"Since the Beyonder's departure there has been UTTER NOTHING"

"A few moments ago, SOMETHING HAPPENED"

"A Portal was Opened from OUR UNIVERSE into the Beyond"

"Molecule Man Opened the Portal, SAVING ALL Existence on HIS SIDE"

Beyonder CREATING/BECOMING a UNIVERSE

"Masses form in the Void, Stars, Suns, and Planets...LIFE Arises"

"Meeting NO resistance in the INFINITE BEYOND.

"Within the New Universe, BEGAT (brought into existence) by Beyonder's Power"

"Mortal Beings giving meaning to the INFINITY in which they dwell"

WHAT WAS BROUGHT INTO EXISTENCE?

A NEW UNIVERSE

BY WHOM or WHAT?

The Beyonder's POWER

And HOW BIG was the UNIVERSE BEGAT BY Beyonder's POWER?

An INFINITY inwhich to Dwell

An INFINITE REALM that WAS the BEYONDER

He COMES from ANOTHER UNIVERSE

THERE, HE WAS ALL, the SUM TOTAL of EXISTENCE

AGAIN

A Being who HAILS FROM a UNIVERSE WHERE HE WAS ALL

AND ALL WAS HIM

Opened a Pinhole INTO HIS REALM

There's TONS of other instances where BEYONDER is CLEARLY depicted as being ALL in the BEYOND REALM...

Do I really need to post them ALL.

I can't help you on that one, there's counseling for that though.

i am always respectful to you in every post i make, and all you can come back with is this condescending attitude, grow up 😉 ........ just because someone dosent agree with you dosent make them wrong..

and i never doubted that the beyonder was all in his universe, i only questioned the fact that the universe he made wasnt infinite, a fact which you have once again avoided

why cant you just admit that there are no scans which exist that show an "infinite" universe instead of posting several off topic scans?

and please save it, this scan is NOT evidence of an "infinite universe" no matter how much you want it to be:
http://img100.imageshack.us/my.php?image=indr6.jpg

Originally posted by galan7777777
because someone dosent agree with you dosent make them wrong..

No offence but you're arguing with the comicbook-Darwin.
So yeah, if someone dissagree she/he's wrong. (Most times) even Newton miss-calculate.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No offence but you're arguing with the comicbook-Darwin.
So yeah, if someone dissagree she/he's wrong. (Most times) even Newton miss-calculate.
im sure your leader can handle his own buisness, but im pretty sure all he will post is something trying to insult my intelligence, it might work if i was 4 or mabye 5 years old 😉

thanks 😄

Originally posted by galan7777777
im sure your leader can handle his own buisness, but im pretty sure all he will post is something trying to insult my intelligence, it might work if i was 4 or mabye 5 years old 😉

thanks 😄


When you were 4-5 years old you couldent even read...
Is your mind so isolated?
He explained the same thing over and you still don't get it:

-In a nutshell**
Galant: What's 1+1
Mr. M: It's 2
Galant: I know what your saying but you didnt answer my question.
Mr. M: Yes I did it's 2! - 😖howsProof:
Galant: That have nothing to do with what I was asking.
And so on . . .
No wonder he loses his mind sometimes.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
When you were 4-5 years old you couldent even read...
Is your mind so isolated?
He explained the same thing over and you still don't get it:

-In a nutshell**
Galant: What's 1+1
Mr. M: It's 2
Galant: I know what your saying but you didnt answer my question.
Mr. M: Yes I did it's 2! - 😖howsProof:
Galant: That have nothing to do with what I was asking.
And so on . . .
No wonder he loses his mind sometimes.

Just give him some ass and call it a day why don't you. GEEZ.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
When you were 4-5 years old you couldent even read...
Is your mind so isolated?
He explained the same thing over and you still don't get it:

-In a nutshell**
Galant: What's 1+1
Mr. M: It's 2
Galant: I know what your saying but you didnt answer my question.
Mr. M: Yes I did it's 2! - 😖howsProof:
Galant: That have nothing to do with what I was asking.
And so on . . .
No wonder he loses his mind sometimes.

😆 good one, your incredible intellect once again amazes me 😉

One can only wonder how someone can't comprehend with clear proven facts.

Originally posted by breeze85
One can only wonder how someone can't comprehend with clear proven facts.
i dosent say anywhere that an infinite universe was created by the beyonder, thats all i was pointing out, nothing more 🙂

Originally posted by breeze85
One can only wonder how someone can't comprehend with clear proven facts.

Lack of intelligence, IQ-liberation, air-head, mentaly gone, Absolute zero, IQ bellow zero, negative IQ results, blonde - We have many words for it in Sweden. Can be because of all the blondes 😛

Originally posted by breeze85
One can only wonder how someone can't comprehend with clear proven facts.

Are they clear proven or objectified and twisted to fit someone's sense of what they should be? Clear proven facts can't be debated. If there is question of the evidence, then it's obvious it's not clear and proven. Hence, why this is called the versus DEBATE forum.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
No offence but you're arguing with the comicbook-Darwin.
So yeah, if someone dissagree she/he's wrong. (Most times) even Newton miss-calculate.

Your saying this WHILE your disagreeing with him about who's more powerful between TOAA and Beyonder(Mr. M says TOAA), and who's more powerful between Presence and Beyonder(Mr M says they're equal). WTF is that about?

Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Are they clear proven or objectified and twisted to fit someone's sense of what they should be? Clear proven facts can't be debated. If there is question of the evidence, then it's obvious it's not clear and proven. Hence, why this is called the versus DEBATE forum.

You think this can't be debated, yet you try? - Make up your mind.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Lack of intelligence, IQ-liberation, air-head, mentaly gone, Absolute zero, IQ bellow zero, negative IQ results, blonde - We have many words for it in Sweden. Can be because of all the blondes 😛
so do you ever try to make points? or do you just show how immature you are by trying to act like you are superior to everyone on here?

Originally posted by darthgoober
Your saying this WHILE your disagreeing with him about who's more powerful between TOAA and Beyonder(Mr. M says TOAA), and who's more powerful between Presence and Beyonder(Mr M says they're equal). WTF is that about?

Even Isac Newton miss-calculated...
I say: Writer = Writer
In other words: Beyonder = TOAA = Presence
I scale it power-wise.

Originally posted by galan7777777
so do you ever try to make points? or do you just show how immature you are by trying to act like you are superior to everyone on here?

Tell me the point and I explain, I'm like a oracle.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Even Isac Newton miss-calculated...
I say: Writer = Writer
In other words: Beyonder = TOAA = Presence
I scale it power-wise.

So in other words, he's only a genius when he agrees with YOU. And any other time, he's miscalculated.

Originally posted by darthgoober
So in other words, he's only a genius when he agrees with YOU. And any other time, he's miscalculated.

I have my perspective, and if his proof is not strong enough it will not change my mind. Actions above statements, I know.
But there is a few reasons I don't agree with him on this:
1, Beyonder's power was absolute infinite, so infinte that he didnt know the meaning of the word desire, so basicly if he wanted to create a Omni-verse he would be able (with his powers) Because if there was a higher power to claim than he would know what desire was, Molecule man did and he was second only to Beyonder.

2, Beyonder had the power of the wrtiers, how can you have more pwoer than that?

3, It was stated that he could do anything.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
I have my perspective, and if his proof is not strong enough it will not change my mind. Actions above statements, I know.
But there is a few reasons I don't agree with him on this:
1, Beyonder's power was absolute infinite, so infinte that he didnt know the meaning of the word desire, so basicly if he wanted to create a Omni-verse he would be able (with his powers) Because if there was a higher power to claim than he would know what desire was, Molecule man did and he was second only to Beyonder.

2, Beyonder had the power of the wrtiers, how can you have more pwoer than that?

3, It was stated that he could do anything.


What happened to all your claims of on panel proof outweighing statements? Because if you go by statements and assumptions, then the Presence seems more like the Judo/Christian concept of God, therefor he would be responsible for absolutely EVERYTHING.

Originally posted by galan7777777
i am always respectful to you in every post i make, and all you can come back with is this condescending attitude, grow up

And I was respectful until you became either intransigent,

or a jerk that wants to wind me up.

Your shown conclusive proof that Beyonder WAS ALL in the BEYOND REALM, and WHAT WAS the BEYOND REALM?

INFINITE!

But you keep on coming back, that's when I start to think it's on purpose or something mental.

Originally posted by galan7777777
........ just because someone dosent agree with you dosent make them wrong..

Your full of it.

I debated with you on a Lucifer thread and you got the best of me, I submitted like a gentleman.

This my character, the one I've devoted the most time to, your not going to prove me wrong, not now not ever.

Beyonder's Power was millions of times that of the Multi-verse, why is it so hard for you to except that he created an Infinite Universe.

After the scans and the logic, that's hating, not even arguing.

Originally posted by galan7777777
and i never doubted that the beyonder was all in his universe, i only questioned the fact that the universe he made wasnt infinite, a fact which you have once again avoided

And this is the kind of thing that makes me say, he's retarded or he's doing it on purpose.

The difference between the Beyond Realm BEFORE Secret Wars, and the BEYOND REALM AFTER Secret Wars,

Is that there was NOW LIFE, besides Beyonder.

Originally posted by galan7777777
why cant you just admit that there are no scans which exist that show an "infinite" universe instead of posting several off topic scans?
and please save it, this scan is NOT evidence of an "infinite universe" no matter how much you want it to be:

7900f44c82a964c25f448263bcfaa7a6

Originally posted by galan7777777
im sure your leader can handle his own buisness, but im pretty sure all he will post is something trying to insult my intelligence, it might work if i was 4 or mabye 5 years old

All I will post is the FACTS that make you look stupid.

Deal with me, and keep referrences geared at me, with me alone.

All you've posted is defiant gibberish,

I call em like I see em.