Originally posted by Air LegendWhat do you mean? Nothing yet shown disagrees with my interpretation. The character even says that's merely how they're percieving him.
Well if Marvel confirms it, then it pretty much is indisputable.
but now having searched the website for it since you guys mentioned it;
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe
"Nevertheless, there has been evidence pointing to an all-powerful entity, the one the cosmic Living Tribunal calls “The One Above All.” The Fantastic Four recently encountered such a being when storming the gates of heaven to rescue their friend Ben Grimm from death. The being took the form of a kindly artist toiling at his drawing board."
Once again pointing out, they it merely took that form for their perception, for this particular event. As if him saying it on panel wasn't enough.
If you guys have truly contradicting evidence, then just show it. It's not like I'd crumble into a mess or something. But so far, the bio, marvel.com and the on panel, are all in support of my interpretation, rather than contradicting it.
Originally posted by Juntai
I disagree, it's all interpretation.
I disagree.
It's all clear on panel ... in the bios and in Marvel.com.
Originally posted by Juntai
They compare Gods' role to the likeness of the way an artist works in the bio. On panel, he identifies that it is merely the way they percieve him and thus his workings.
You must've missed this scan I posted:
The Artist and Writer making plans over the phone for characters in Comic books:
"uh-huh ... the Forbidden City ... the Human Jungle. Right.
Suddenly the Black Panther springs from the trees"
"Ok, we'll make it the Silver Surfer! Yeah! Yeah!
WRITE IT UP and I'll START the DESIGNS"
Like I said ... it's obvious. 🙂
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing concrete. And nothing that disagrees with my interpretation more-so than it helps what you're trying to push.
I'm not pushing jack,
Marvel's pushing it ... I'm only conveying the Info.
Sincerely, You disagree or dislike it, deal with them.
Originally posted by Juntai
You can support whatever idea you want to role with,
Marvel's ideas ... not mine.
And yes, I will role with Marvel's ideas concerning Marvel Comics.
Originally posted by Juntai
but don't force it on anyone as an undisputed truth when it's clearly left up to interpretation with ambiguous references.
You're the only person I've seen trying to debunk the factual evidence,
that's been depicted on panel, reference in official bios,
and confirmed on Marvel.com.
So perhaps it's you who's forcing speculation in contradiction to what Marvel has established as fact.
Originally posted by Mr MasterOnce again, he is merely presenting himself in that fashion. He mentions it, the bio mentions it, and so does the website. Nothing is contradicting what I'm saying. Keep trying though.
I disagree.It's all clear on panel ... in the bios and in Marvel.com.
You must've missed this scan I posted:
The Artist and Writer making plans over the phone for characters in Comic books:
"uh-huh ... the Forbidden City ... the Human Jungle. Right.
springs from the trees"
Suddenly the [B]Black Panther"Ok, we'll make it the Silver Surfer! Yeah! Yeah!
WRITE IT UP and I'll START the DESIGNS"
Like I said ... it's obvious. 🙂
I'm not pushing jack,
Marvel's pushing it ... I'm only conveying the Info.
Sincerely, You disagree or dislike it, deal with them.
Marvel's ideas ... not mine.
And yes, I will role with Marvel's ideas concerning Marvel Comics.
You're the only person I've seen trying to debunk the factual evidence,
that's been depicted on panel, reference in official bios,
and confirmed on Marvel.com.So perhaps it's you who's forcing speculation in contradiction to what Marvel has established as fact. [/B]
Originally posted by Juntai
What do you mean? Nothing yet shown disagrees with my interpretation. The character even says that's merely how they're percieving him.
Nah.
Originally posted by Juntai
but now having searched the website for it since you guys mentioned it;
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Marvel_Universe"Nevertheless, there has been evidence pointing to an all-powerful entity, the one the cosmic Living Tribunal calls “The One Above All.” The Fantastic Four recently encountered such a being when storming the gates of heaven to rescue their friend Ben Grimm from death. The being took the form of a kindly artist toiling at his drawing board."
Yea, that's the Artist and the Writer taking form within Comics.
Originally posted by Juntai
Once again pointing out, they it merely took that form for their perception, for this particular event.
Yea, he was also merely doing this:
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Artist and Writer making plans over the phone for characters in Comic books:"uh-huh ... the Forbidden City ... the Human Jungle. Right.
Suddenly the Black Panther springs from the trees""Ok, we'll make it the Silver Surfer! Yeah! Yeah!
write it up and I'll start the designs"
Like I said ... it's obvious. 🙂
What the heck is God/TOAA doing formulating plans
for Comic Books that take place in the Real World? 😂
Originally posted by Juntai
As if him saying it on panel wasn't enough.
Again,
What the heck is God/TOAA doing formulating plans
for Comic Books that take place in the Real World?
It's more than obvious what this is representing.
(uhh .. A Real World Artist and a Real World Writer?) ✅
Originally posted by Juntai
If you guys have truly contradicting evidence, then just show it. It's not like I'd crumble into a mess or something. But so far, the bio, marvel.com and the on panel, are all in support of my interpretation, rather than contradicting it.
😆
As you wish.
Originally posted by Juntai
Once again, he is merely presenting himself in that fashion.
This is your personal opinion.
So as you wish.
Originally posted by Juntai
He mentions it, the bio mentions it, and so does the website.
Everything I conveyed?
True that.
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing is contradicting what I'm saying.
This is your personal opinion.
So as you wish.
Originally posted by Juntai
Keep trying though.
Never had to. 😬
But you can. 🙂
Originally posted by JuntaiHe mentions that "his creations" find the humanity in God, [himself].
Once again, he is merely presenting himself in that fashion. He mentions it, the bio mentions it, and so does the website.
That's no different then many religions [in the real world], depicting the "true God", as a bearded/muscular white guy lol.
It's all in perception, [it makes people feel less insignificant].
Originally posted by Mr MasterGot nothing to contradict what I said then? Cool. You could have just said that, instead of this pointless post.
Nah.Yea, that's the Artist and the Writer taking form within Comics.
Yea, he was also merely doing this:
What the heck is God/TOAA doing formulating plans
for Comic Books that place in the Real World? 😂What the heck is God/TOAA doing formulating plans
for Comic Books that place in the Real World? 😂😆
As you wish.
Moving along until you get something I should take serious... Of course the Presence beats the Beyonder.
Originally posted by Galan007I believe that's what I've been saying.
He mentions that "his creations" find the humanity in God, [himself].That's no different then many religions [in the real world], depicting the "true God", as a bearded/muscular white guy lol.
It's all in perception, [it makes people feel less insignificant].
There's nothing disagreeing with what I said from the very start that I've seen yet.
Originally posted by Juntai
Got nothing to contradict what I said then? Cool.
Dying to see your point of relevance to contradict. 😎
Originally posted by Juntai
You could have just said that, instead of this pointless post.
You should've done the same, instead of responding with several pointless posts.
Originally posted by Juntai
Moving along until you get something I should take serious...
😆
Originally posted by Juntai
Of course the Presence beats the Beyonder.
I don't care.
But TOAA/GOD is the Artists and Writers of Marvel.
Originally posted by Mr Master now
Moving along until you get something I should take serious...
Originally posted by Mr MasterYou're the one that hopped on my dick trying to prove something bro, not the other way around, I said what I had to say last page or so, until you came with a wave of nothing that contradicted me.
Dying to see your point of relevance to contradict. 😎You should've done the same, instead of responding with several pointless posts.
😆
I don't care.
But TOAA/GOD is the Artists and Writers of Marvel.
the "Jack Kirby" TOAA, was merely how they percieved the supreme being. He even mentioned that. It's not neccisarily that writers and artists are the supreme. -- though in a technical sense, they and the editors do depict the universe to us.
hum
The Artist and Writer making plans over the phone for characters in Comic books:
"uh-huh ... the Forbidden City ... the Human Jungle. Right.
Suddenly the Black Panther springs from the trees"
"Ok, we'll make it the Silver Surfer! Yeah! Yeah!
WRITE IT UP and I'll START the DESIGNS"
.......................................................................................
God/TOAA (the Artist & the Writer)
discussing Marvel Comic Book issues that will be published in the Real World.
shrug
meh, but as you wish.
Originally posted by Mr MasterWe just have to disagree on something. Not terribly uncommon. The evidence is ambiguous in this circumstance. It's my understanding that they are merely percieving him this way, and that it's not literal.[As the .com mentions him 'taking that form', and he mentions merely being percieved by them in this fashion], and you seem to be taking the visuals as evidence verbatim or something somehow.
hum[B]The Artist and Writer making plans over the phone for characters in Comic books
:"uh-huh ... the Forbidden City ... the Human Jungle. Right.
Suddenly the Black Panther springs from the trees""Ok, we'll make it the Silver Surfer! Yeah! Yeah!
WRITE IT UP and I'll START the DESIGNS"
.......................................................................................
God/TOAA (the Artist & the Writer)
discussing Marvel Comic Book issues that will be published in the Real World.
shrug
meh, but as you wish. [/B]
Originally posted by Juntai
You're the one that hopped on my dick
You on my dick right about now.
Originally posted by Juntai
trying to prove something bro, not the other way around,
Nah son, I wasn't trying to prove shit
You just got offended cause I clarified a point you brought up concerning the God/TOAA:
Here:
Originally posted by Mr Master
In Marvel,the Artists and Writers are the God/TOAA
God (the Artist) TOAA "collaborator" (Writer)
That's how they were depicted on panel
I threw in a few scans to demonstrate what I was refering too.
Then you went ape shit
Originally posted by Juntai
I said what I had to say last page or so,
until you came with a wave of nothing that contradicted me.
"wave of nothing"
😆
That's anger talk.
Inconsequential.
Originally posted by Juntai
And yet, still all true, and nothing has contradicted it.
Whatever ... As you wish.
Before this spills into the danger zone, let's just let it go.
Originally posted by Galan007
It's obvious the Jack Kirby-esk character wasn't the 'real' artist of Marvel.
Right.
It's obviously a drawing representing the "real world" artists and writers.
Originally posted by Galan007
An avatar for the 'real' artists, is more likely.
If this means representitives of the "real world" Artists and Writers within Comics?
I agree 100% (that's all I was sayin) 🙂
Originally posted by Mr MasterI'm not angry, I just don't understand where you're going with this. Or were going, or whatever.
You on my dick right about now.Nah son, I wasn't trying to prove shit
You just got offended cause I clarified a point you brought up concerning the God/TOAA:
Here:
I threw in a few scans to demonstrate what I was refering too.
Then you went ape shit
"wave of nothing"
😆
That's anger talk.
Inconsequential.
Whatever ... As you wish.
Before this spills into the danger zone, let's just let it go.
