Phoenix VS Galactus

Exactly. The Force is virtually omniscient, its avatars however with their human flaws are not, however to make up for that the avatars are guided by the Consciousness and when things get too much for their limited humanity to cope with the Force just takes the reins and acts instead.

We dont need to know precisely what Jean did. We know what it involved (control of the entire universes matter at an atomic level) and we know to what ends (fixing the badly wounded universe). Thats all we need to know, we have a feat.

The patient as all can see from the scans is conclusively marked out as the universe. The "BADLY WOUNDED" universe. It is this she materializes within the "HOSPITAL" and it is THIS that she applies her power to in order to alter past events.

The green mass that was the future was taken away from Jean and Jean was directed into the hospital to "Grow a better future". The future is not taken inside and the future is not seen on panel again.

as we saw in the movie wolverine killed phonix he is way above them because he got healing factor

Originally posted by wolvertooth
as we saw in the movie wolverine killed phonix he is way above them because he got healing factor

wolverine did beat her and wolverine stabed galactus in his bone claw form ... in his curent form he can cut galactus to death

Originally posted by wolvertooth
as we saw in the movie wolverine killed phonix he is way above them because he got healing factor

Thats in the film, their portrayal of the characters and their abilities is NOT the same as within the comics. In the comics Phoenix eats stars and can manipulate the matter of a reality in the palm of her hand. In the film Phoenix was just a very powerful mutant. BIG difference.

he did kill her in the comics

Phoenix cant be killed in the comics, only her physical form destroyed, but the Phoenix lives on its completely indestructible, its life itself.

At the same time Jean can render herself completely indestructible if it is her will. An avatar can give itself any power it wishes. She has endured more physical trauma and energy attacks than that which either Xorneto or Wolverine can deliver to her.

In the case of Wolverine she wanted him to "kill" her so she could gain control over her inner Phoenix self.

In the case of Xorneto it was established from the beginning of the New X-men series that Jean had Phoenix work to perform in the future.

It was also stated that the Phoenix dies for a purpose.

In the same issue that Jeans physical form was destroyed she stated that she was not going to be around much longer, that she had work to do. Jean the avatar to the most potent telepathic force in Marvel, Jean who has bathed in stars and as avatar can give herself any power, knelt down besides Xorneto to comfort him and the injured man reached around and attacked Jean with all his might causing the death of her physical form. Panels later Jean was reborn into reality 150 years later via a Phoenix Egg. Upon hatching Jean says shes here to fix something.

I believe that says it all.

He's just trolling GS.

wolverine can kill her he just stabs here just like he did to galactus and he cant die... a nuke couldnt hurt him .... he just cut jean and she is dead

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
When she does high level stuff, when she gets too close to her power the Force talks to her ( as we witnessed in the scene) and at times takes possession and acts for her.

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Keep trying as hard as you want to fool the onlookers, they already know the FACTS.

And your pathetic, posting SCANS that aren't even from the same ISSUE.

Phoenix NEVER Manipulated ANYTHING,

except for the "FUTURE that was NOW" which she REPAIRED Atom by Atom.

One more thing:

Phoenix DID NOT amputate the Actual Future, just the Bacteria Colony's Future.

Had she amputated the Actual Future, there would have been NO reason for her to visit the Past and CHANGE Scott's Mind about Emma, in order to TRULLY ALTAR the Future.

Here Phoenix extracts Sublime from Hank's body

Phoenix SAYS, "SURGERY COMPLETE"

Here Phoenix says, "Some KIND of Bacteria Colony gone rogue...I had to Amputate the whole Future"

Jean is told, "Phoenix DISINFECTION Successful"

We know that by Phoenix cutting off the Future, the Infection, which was Sublime, was destroyed,

but the EVENTS that took place, have NOT been changed

And NOW, Phoenix is asking "Now What"?

It tells Jean, "This is Now" (yellow energy in her hands)

Phoenix asks, "Is this the Future?"

It tells her, "You lost concentration, Shock almost killed it" (the FUTURE)

It continues to say, "Patient will die unless internal heart damage repaired"

Phoenix ASKED, "Is this the Future?"

The Consciousness REPLIES,

"You lost concentration, Shock almost killed it"

"Patient will die unless internal heart damage repaired"

The "Patient" is the FUTURE still at this point EVIDENTLY

Which is why Phoenix THEN says, "But it didn't have to END like that, my Friends didn't deserve that." (some even died),

DIDN'T DESERVE WHAT?

THIS....(the FUTURE THAT IS NOW)

It then says, "No, Turn around, No End yet, there, Turn, Here before always, HOSPITAL White Hot (It's a hospital for ailments within Universes)

This is ACTUALLY the process taking place of a FUTURE being REPAIRED

because it was nearly killed when Phoenix lost concentration Amputating the Colony's Future.

THEN

Jean loses concentration "IN THERE" (Inside the White Hot Room) and she is reminded to "Now heal wound MAKE Better FUTURE"

"Heart got stuck", (Because she Wasn't concentrating) Turn (some kinda White Hot Room code word for, "keep on fixing"😉

MAKE BETTER WHAT?

FUTURE!!!

Now after that, we end up with this.

It tells Jean, "Telekinetic control of all those Atoms at once isn't as easy as it sounds in training, NOT even for a White Phoenix of the Crown..."

"Telekinetic control of all those Atoms?".......

of WHAT Atoms?

The ONLY action I've seen, is A Future being Repaired.

It's actually talking about the FUTURE that was just Repaired.

Makes sense to me Mr. M. Good Job!

Originally posted by Ext@nt
Makes sense to me Mr. M. Good Job!

Thanx Ext@nt.

I saw you yesterday handling him aswell.

There's a bunch of murderers in our clan.

Anyhow White Phoenix is a whole lot hotter than Galactus IMO.

Originally posted by Mr Master
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Keep trying as hard as you want to fool the onlookers, they already know the FACTS.

And your pathetic, posting SCANS that aren't even from the same ISSUE.

Phoenix NEVER Manipulated ANYTHING,

except for the "FUTURE that was NOW" which she REPAIRED Atom by Atom.

Your logic is abysmal. So youre saying that we should ignore all the points that were established in the same title in previous story arcs, by the same writer just months before? 😕 🙄

You weer asking questions about how Jean was acting in the scene, and you jumped to conclusions and speculated. All your questions pertaining to Jean were answered previously in the title.

Got queries as to why Jean seems confused? We're shownm issues before that her premature hatching put her in that state.

Want to know how Jean can be shown to perform actions and yet say things which suggest she doesnt know exactly how she did them? It was established earlier in the title that when Jean does high level things, the Phoenix Consciousness takes the reins and performs for her.

You have no argument. 😄

phoenix avartar wont win but the true phoenix wins i think

You've lost Mr M and its quite evident to all who actually take the time out to read the scans. You argue that Jean didnt actually amputate the future and yet she states clear as day thats exactly what she did. The point is even stated in the handbooks (Official Handbook of Alternate Universes 2005)

The future is the green mass within her hands.

The future is NOT taken into the white hot room, the "HOSPITAL"

The future is taken away from her, it is then never seen or mentioned again on panel. AFTER that occurs the Force goes on to direct Jean into the "HOSPITAL" to "HEAL WOUND", "GROW A BETTER FUTURE"

What is it Jean materializes within the "hospital"? the "BADLY WOUNDED UNIVERSE"

When Jean goes on to ask what it is she has to fix again, what does the Phoenix Consciousness tell her? The "BADLY WOUNDED ORPHAN UNIVERSE"

What is it she is told to water with her hearts blood? "The BADLY WOUNDED ORPHAN UNIVERSE"

What is it Jean applies her power to? The "BADLY WOUNDED UNIVERSE"

You are conclusively wrong. Its actually stated on panel that its the universe that she has to fix and its actually depicted that its the universe Jean applies her power to resulting in the growth of a new future for that UNIVERSE.

You are wrong, all who actually bother to read the scans and make their own minds up whilst ignoring your waffle can see that for themselves.

Youre a joke. Your misguided attempt to demote in the hierarchy what you see as the biggest threat to your Beyonder fantasies only damages your credibility.

You are ignoring on panel statements and depictions in favour of your biased opinion. 👇

Get the hell outta here------>

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Originally posted by trolly_crouchjr
phoenix avartar wont win but the true phoenix wins i think

Phoenix avatars have beaten Galactus before in this reality and others. Galactus can only contain a finite amount of power. He absorbs the energy of planets and then burns it out. The difference with an avatar is that they are hooked up to an unlimited energy source (the Phoenix Force) and their power never runs out. Galactus made the point in his last battle with an avatar. So Galactus could eat a planet and go into battle, but while he would eventually tire the avatar would be still going strong.

On top of that as highlighted by Jeans universe in the palm of the hand feat, avatars can manipulate matter and energy at an exponentially greater scale than Galactus has EVER been shown to be able to do in this reality or any other. Any being who can manipulate a reality in the palm of her hand like putty and put it on its death bed byu casually snipping away its future is FAR beyond any being that is OF reality. Eternity is nothing compared to a top avatar as Jean demonstrated let alone the planet eater Galactus.

Originally posted by The-Judge
The-Judge´s comebacksong: (50 Cent: PIMP)
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I am back, Built to last!
Makes a comeback with a blast!
I was banned for seven days,
now i am back and i will stay!
more mufassa on the way!
This is a song from The-Judge...
He will never, never, never, never stop!
Learn it, KMC!
It´s no use to ban me for a week...
I am a freak, as you can see...
But i am still a a P.I.M.P!
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