Originally posted by Mr Master
No I'm not, you said they Teleported Phoenix away.PF can die too.
Yes you were. Obviously there was something wrong with the statement "teleported phoenix away". But nitpicking is defined as correcting someone even though it doesn't change the point. Thus making it irrelevant. I may have not used the correct words but my point was the same.
You said that PF can die (not Phoenix in a body). Are you implying only by the ultimate nullifier? Because I believe maybe this is the only way she can die. Even though that might be impossible.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Phoenix is marked out consistently as the spark that ignites realities, the power behind the Big Bang.
Feron, a Mortal STUDENT of Magic Exploited the Phoenix "big bang"
It ONLY took him a decade to perform this Feat.
"The assembled Heroes are TIRED & BATTERED, the PHOENIX is REBORN and FRESH.
The Humanoids are tired and their still holding their own against the "big bang"
The Six Guardians BEAT the PHOENIX FORCE into and through the Portal
The Phoenix Force "big bang" ends up DISPLACED by FOUR Billion Years
By ROGUE and Company.... hysterical2
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
With such a role it was obvious that it must have had some connection to cosmics like Galactus who derive their power from the universe, however its only within recent years that the connection has been explicitly illustrated. The Phoenix is the life force of creation, its avatar in the previous universe saved creation from the Dwellers schemes meaning that Galen survived the universes end to make it to the Cosmic Egg to gestate with Eternity of 616.
Gibberish.
Get out of my face with that Bio, that has NOTHING to do, with WHAT HAPPENED ON PANEL.
Galactus's Origin has been depicted THREE times On Panel, NEVER ONCE, was Phoenix mentioned.
If you can find me just ONE comic where this is drawn, I'll agree with you, but since I know your basing this idea on bios or handbooks I know you can't.
Tell me where if anywhere does it mention Phoenix supposedly "enabling Galen to incubate in the Cosmic Egg"....how about even JUST Saving Galactus...
This is the ORIGINAL depiction of Galactus's ORIGIN.
This is the SECOND time they depicted Galactus's Origin On Panel.
And this is the Third:
See anything different, yea me neither.
In ALL THREE instances, Eternity or the sentience of the Universe saved Galactus NOT Phoenix, the biatch isn't even Mentioned.
By the way, Do not be confused by the Third depiction, where the sentience is called "the ENIGMA FORCE"
The Enigma Force is what powers Captain Universe, and Cpatain Universe is the ESSENCE of the UNIVERSE, if He DIES...EVERYONE DIES.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
an earlier state of the Big Bang which made 616, the Big Bang that derives from:Yes the Phoenix Force.
The ONLY scan you've ever had of the Phoenix being referred to as "the Big Bang" by the very respectable Reed Richards, Ofcourse his EXACT words are:
"The Big Bang or the Phoenix Force or What Have You"....
He doesn't sound to sure.
but let's totally OVERLOOK Reed Richard's ASSERTIVE COMMENTS concerning the Power of the UN
By silly child.
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As the power behind the Big Bang, any and every being born of 616, any power source of 616 is by varying degrees of separation derivative of the Phoenix Force. Hence the Force sometimes being said to be the sum and SUBSTANCE of all life, the life force of reality.
Really?
So I suppose Every being of 616 derives from the
5 Cosmic Containment Units that CREATED an EXACT DUPLICATE of the 616 Universe
Wanda Destroyed and Remade the 616 Reality ohhh...OVER 10 times during HOM.
"She's starting to REMAKE Reality 616... again" (more than once she did it)
"You might not even exist anymore in whatever New Reality takers place"
"Who knows how she'll change Everything this time"
The UN
Insane Genis-Vell
Umar
Jim Jaspers
IG
and on and on and on....
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
By your unsupported interpretation even if Galactus was the embodiment of the power of a universe, big deal compared to a Force whose avatars can manipulate universes in the palm of their hands like putty.Please get with it!
Here's GIRAUD (Phoenix Avatar) SUPPOSEDLY "manipulating a Universe in the palm of his hand"....
I know, I don't see it either folks.
Here's GIRAUD that same "Universal manipulator" getting his ass HANDED to him by Dormammu
Dormammu HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar)
Dormammu still HANDLING Giraud (Phoenix Avatar) and the Entire Team and the same time
Originally posted by h1a8
You said that PF can die (not Phoenix in a body). Are you implying only by the ultimate nullifier? Because I believe maybe this is the only way she can die. Even though that might be impossible.
Any force powerful enough can do it.
Take your pick.
HOTU
Infinity Gauntlet
LT
Abraxas
Cosmic Containment Units
Insane Genis
and there's more
Mr Master I agree with you completely. I did a net search and the stupid Phoenix saving Galactus thing was in the last issue of the comic adaptaion of the X-Men cartoon series from the 90's. I'll try to find scans so we can all get a good laugh.
I think Big G is sorely underrated on these fourms, nevermind that it took Aegis AND Tenebrous to take him down and he wasn't even at full power.
Originally posted by Ext@nt
Mr Master I agree with you completely. I did a net search and the stupid phoenix saving galactus thing was in the last issue of the comic adaptaion of the X-Men cartoon series from the 90's. I'll try to find scans so we can all get a good laugh.I think Big G is sorely underrated on these fourms, nevermind that it took Aegis AND Tenebrous to take him down and he wasn't even at full power.
Right on bro,
Good to see more members, other than the comic savvy seeing through the veil of hype and bull shit.
I'm behind ya all the way.
Originally posted by bigbranPlus, even if there was any evidence that she did create him, it still took lots of years in there just to get his power, so I don't think she would have anything to do with it either way.
For all you haters that say Galactus can't eat a planet under his own power... I got:
a) His first feeding.
b) Comes out of his incubation, from being created.
c) Destroys an entire armada, with one blast.
d) Makes the world ship.1. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/1294/galactus19et6.jpg
2. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/7233/galactus20sa2.jpg
3. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/6932/galactus21jm1.jpg
4. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/4805/galactus22bq7.jpg
5. http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/387/galactus23dq0.jpgOh ya, There is no mention that Phoenix created Galactus.
I'll scan the whole issue just to show, that there isn't.
Originally posted by bigbran
Plus, even if there was any evidence that she did create him, it still took lots of years in there just to get his power, so I don't think she would have anything to do with it either way.
nice scans bran,
And On Panel there is NO evidence.
What that other child is referring to,
is a Story monkeywrenched into Galactus's Origin by "some Bio Writer" in order to fit the PF in a fantasy hierarchy.
Originally posted by Mr MasterI have the whole issue, ready to put out if someone else says it again.
nice scans bran,And On Panel there is NO evidence.
What that other child is referring to,
is a Story monkeywrenched into Galactus's Origin by "some Bio Writer" in order to fit the PF in a fantasy hierarchy.
And thanks.
Originally posted by rotiart
I didn't bother to read all of this. All i can say is Phoenix healed an orphan universe... healed eternity...moondragon aided by galactus.. brought eternity back from a coma...
meh. i say their equal.
I have no doubt Phoenix CAN heal a Universe, Giraud did it, and he's a Phoenix Avatar.
However, in the scan gs claims Phoenix is "manipulating a Universe in her hands" there is NO such thing happening, NOT EVEN Healing.
Phoenix Repaired the Future in the White Hot Room which is a Hospital in some form relating to Universes, the Future had been damaged when she Amputated the Bacterial Colony's Future,
Originally posted by Mr Master
You wanted it to get ugly, and now it has.I suppose Adults debate with LIES, as you do my obtuse friend.
Like claiming Galactus Contained the Ultimate Nullifier's power.
This was your vain attempt at knocking the UN's Status in power, which is FAR, I MEAN FAR FAR BEYOND Phoenix's Power.
I gotta tell you,
I really am interested in seeing how your going to bull shit your way out of that one.
We all know you lied to demean the UN, but we're still eager.
Oh my dear boy this is much too easy.
Ok...
Jean is reminded to "Now heal wound MAKE Better FUTURE"
Jean loses concentration IN THERE, (WHERE do you think She IS?) Telepathically or Sub-consciuosly I don't know, but Jean is IN THERE (READ the SCAN)
INSIDE the WHITE HOT ROOM, REPAIRING the FUTURE.
"Heart got stuck", (Because she Wasn't concentrating) Turn (some kinda White Hot Room code word for, "keep on fixing"😉NEXT PANEL:
It tells Jean, "Telekinetic control of all those Atoms at once isn't as easy as it sounds in training, NOT even for a White Phoenix of the Crown..."
"Telekinetic control of all those Atoms?"....... of WHAT Atoms?The ONLY action I've seen, is A Future being Repaired.
It's actually talking about the FUTURE that was just Repaired.
I like the way you put it, who wouldn't be fooled, but I bring along the scans.
It tells Jean, "It lost it's parents when Unity broke out across the Megasystems"
Phoenix is CLUELESS as to WHAT this is, or WHAT to do with it.Jean says, "Did I have to FIX something that was dying? What is it?"
It tells her, "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"
What the hell does that mean?
Now I don't WHAT Comic book your getting your info from, but the NEXT PANEL:
"But...but WHAT's THAT SUPPOSE to MEAN?
There is NO WAY JEAN could have Manipulated ANYTHING in the previous SCAN.
BECAUSE She still DOEN'T EVEN Know WHAT THAT MEANS...("A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"😉
WHERE or WHEN did the MANIPULATION of the Universe happen?
IN FACT, the ONLY thing the Consciousness ANSWERS to Jean's question is:
"That Henry's heart's broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..
It's JUST TELLING Jean the OUTCOME of "Here Comes Tomorrow,"
the FUTURE that is NOW,
this is WHY it's a "badly wounded Orphan Universe" due to "Phoenix Work"
And what is "Phoenix Work?"
The result of her Repairing the Future Atom by Atom
It's obviously NOT an easy task for her to Grow it a New Future, Repairing it was hard enough
He also says, "And they said I was to tell you to HURRY"
Implying she can't do this AT WILL, but with in a TIME LIMIT.
You momo, your making us realize how WEAK She is.
Phoenix NEEDS the "hospital" to perform the Feat
A bunch of gibberish.
That about does it.
Good work Mr. Master.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Any force powerful enough can do it.Take your pick.
HOTU
Infinity Gauntlet
LT
Abraxas
Cosmic Containment Units
Insane Genisand there's more
Not to say that you are wrong but what is your evidence or reasoning in saying these beings (with the possible exception of maybe LT) can kill PF. Please explain in detail of this conclusion you came to.
