Originally posted by ThePittman
All I see is you posting what others have said not what you think, can you not think for yourself? Then again that is why you believe what you do because you can’t.
You have not followed me since my advent to this site. I have over 1600 posts. In those posts I have stated my own thoughts and then undergirded them with Scriptures and other facts.
Recently, yes I have used a number of articles written by other people. I am intelligent enough to understand, recognize and admit that I don't know everything. Moreover, I realize that I do not have to do everything either. If I need legal counsel I pay my lawyer. If not medical attention I see my physician. If I need historical information I will read it in a book. If I want my money to grow I will seek out a financial advisor. Only people that don't have any common sense try to do everything themselves. Some articles don't need me to improve on them. So I just copy and past it because it is par excellence. Hey, there are many on this forum who have posts that not even I can improve on. I would even copy and paste it if I needed to.
Question: how do you know that anything is true? Were you there while experiments were being conducted by renowned scientists to make sure that they were doing it right? No? So then what you are telling me is that you took for granted that what they said was true was in fact true? I see, so then you don't really know for sure because you were not there. Uh, huh, so then how do you know that there are facts that support evolution? I know everybody and their mother is going to barrage this post with replies but really, this is addressed to Pittman. I would love to read his response. He'll probably start out by attacking my intellect and calling me a robot, and that I don't think for myself (none of this is true). So I'll just sit back with my hands clasped behind my head and eagerly anticipate your reply Pittdiesel.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveFirst honest and true answer I have heard from you. clap3
You have not followed me since my advent to this site. I have over 1600 posts. In those posts I have stated my own thoughts and then undergirded them with Scriptures and other facts.Recently, yes I have used a number of articles written by other people. I am intelligent enough to understand, recognize and admit that I don't know everything. Moreover, I realize that I do not have to do everything either. If I need legal counsel I pay my lawyer. If not medical attention I see my physician. If I need historical information I will read it in a book. If I want my money to grow I will seek out a financial advisor. Only people that don't have any common sense try to do everything themselves. Some articles don't need me to improve on them. So I just copy and past it because it is par excellence. Hey, there are many on this forum who have posts that not even I can improve on. I would even copy and paste it if I needed to.
Question: how do you know that anything is true? Were you there while experiments were being conducted by renowned scientists to make sure that they were doing it right? No? So then what you are telling me is that you took for granted that what they said was true was in fact true? I see, so then you don't really know for sure because you were not there. Uh, huh, so then how do you know that there are facts that support evolution? I know everybody and their mother is going to barrage this post with replies but really, this is addressed to Pittman. I would love to read his response. He'll probably start out by attacking my intellect and calling me a robot, and that I don't think for myself (none of this is true). So I'll just sit back with my hands clasped behind my head and eagerly anticipate your reply Pittdiesel.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Survey: which picture's objects are more sophisticated and complex and required more intelligence to create? If possible answer the question if you can without saying God or evolution. That is not the issue. I just want to know which picture's objects you think took more intelligence to create. For example: "I think the first picture's objects required more intelligence to create" or "I think the object in the second picture took more know how." Got it?
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Survey: which picture's objects are more sophisticated and complex and required more intelligence to create? If possible answer the question if you can without saying God or evolution. That is not the issue. I just want to know which picture's objects you think took more intelligence to create. For example: "I think the first picture's objects required more intelligence to create" or "I think the object in the second picture took more know how." Got it?
Both equally. They are both made of atoms.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveTo answer your question, I know when something is true when it can be either seen, duplicated or tested. The same can be said about God, you don’t know it’s the truth either. You were not there when the Bible was written, you don’t know what they said or thought, and all that you have is a feeling. Feelings and thoughts are easily manipulated depending on all types or circumstances. You also have to weigh were you are getting your information from and what are their intentions, just because someone has a degree in science doesn’t mean they don’t have their own agenda as this is much the case in religious science.
Question: how do you know that anything is true? Were you there while experiments were being conducted by renowned scientists to make sure that they were doing it right? No? So then what you are telling me is that you took for granted that what they said was true was in fact true? I see, so then you don't really know for sure because you were not there. Uh, huh, so then how do you know that there are facts that support evolution? I know everybody and their mother is going to barrage this post with replies but really, this is addressed to Pittman. I would love to read his response. He'll probably start out by attacking my intellect and calling me a robot, and that I don't think for myself (none of this is true). So I'll just sit back with my hands clasped behind my head and eagerly anticipate your reply Pittdiesel.[/COLOR]
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveTaking an unbiased stance. Given that there is no objective evidence as to intelligence being impetus behind the planets creation, I would state the Car.
Survey: which picture's objects are more sophisticated and complex and required more intelligence to create? If possible answer the question if you can without saying God or evolution. That is not the issue. I just want to know which picture's objects you think took more intelligence to create. For example: "I think the first picture's objects required more intelligence to create" or "I think the object in the second picture took more know how." Got it?
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveEach one is completely different in their creation, one the planets are self creating depending on the conditions and materials available. The car can not be created on its own and must be completed from start to finish getting the final product.
Survey: which picture's objects are more sophisticated and complex and required more intelligence to create? If possible answer the question if you can without saying God or evolution. That is not the issue. I just want to know which picture's objects you think took more intelligence to create. For example: "I think the first picture's objects required more intelligence to create" or "I think the object in the second picture took more know how." Got it?
With the planets, you could create on by simple throwing a rock into space. As it travels throughout the universe it will either crash into a larger body or keep collecting smaller particles until it gets enough mass to attract others and keeps building form there.
Originally posted by ThePittman
To answer your question, I know when something is true when it can be either seen, duplicated or tested. The same can be said about God, you don’t know it’s the truth either. You were not there when the Bible was written, you don’t know what they said or thought, and all that you have is a feeling. Feelings and thoughts are easily manipulated depending on all types or circumstances. You also have to weigh were you are getting your information from and what are their intentions, just because someone has a degree in science doesn’t mean they don’t have their own agenda as this is much the case in religious science.
(Game show buzzer sounds: genckt, genckt, wrong answer.) Faith is not a feeling it is based soley on the Word of God. So my faith is not a feeling or thought it is a spiritual substance.
As far as weiging everything and being cynical about the agendas and motives of those who establish scientifc findings, I do not have the time, inclination, nor ability to verify everything that I read (no one can do that with everything that they read).
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive(buzzer: Wrong) Faith is a feeling and a belief; it is not based on the word of God. You have faith that the Bible is the word of God and you were raised to believe this. You do not know for a fact that it is the Word of God other then what people have told you as we have talked about above.
(Game show buzzer sounds: genckt, genckt, wrong answer.) Faith is not a feeling it is based soley on the Word of God. So my faith is not a feeling or thought it is a spiritual substance.As far as weiging everything and being cynical about the agendas and motives of those who establish scientifc findings, I do not have the time, inclination, nor ability to verify everything that I read (no one can do that with everything that they read).
Originally posted by ThePittman
(buzzer: Wrong) Faith is a feeling and a belief; it is not based on the word of God. You have faith that the Bible is the word of God and you were raised to believe this. You do not know for a fact that it is the Word of God other then what people have told you as we have talked about above.
I speak for myself why do you think I quote the word in support of what I believe. My faith is indeed based on God's Word and nothing else. If it is not based on what God says then I am in trooouble. Everytime that I am asked why do I believe thus and so, I reply because that is what the Word says. Jesus did the same thing when tempted by the devil. He relentlessly quoted the Scriptures. Finally, the devil couldn't stand being thrust through as it were with the Sword of the Spirit (the Word of God) so he desisted in his plans to get Jesus to sin. Adam and Eve failed when they were tempted by the devil but Jesus PREVAILED. There is a big difference.
Originally posted by JesusIsAliveThe base of Faith is that you don’t have proof but a feeling; you have faith that what you believe and what you have been taught is true. If you drop a ball you know it will fall, you don’t have faith that it will fall.
I speak for myself why do you think I quote the word in support of what I believe. My faith is indeed based on God's Word and nothing else. If it is not based on what God says then I am in trooouble. Everytime that I am asked why do I believe thus and so, I reply because that is what the Word says. Jesus did the same thing when tempted by the devil. He relentlessly quoted the Scriptures. Finally, the devil couldn't stand being thrust through as it were with the Sword of the Spirit (the Word of God) so he desisted in his plans to get Jesus to sin. Adam and Eve failed when they were tempted by the devil but Jesus PREVAILED. There is a big difference.
Originally posted by ThePittman
The base of Faith is that you don’t have proof but a feeling; you have faith that what you believe and what you have been taught is true. If you drop a ball you know it will fall, you don’t have faith that it will fall.
Look if you persist in this foolishness I'm a have to look you up in the Sweet Pickles Yearbook. Just ask Rocatell, his name is in there.
Now what is it going to be (has one hand on Sweet Pickles Yearbook).
My faith is based on the Word of God--not feelings. I don't feel saved, I know without a modicum of doubt that I am saved. I walk by faith not by sight (sight represents all five senses). I do not relate to God by feelings I relate to God by faith. I don't feel that Jesus Christ died for my sins I believe that He did because the Word says so and my faith is based on the Word.
2 Corinthians 5:7
For we walk by faith, not by sight.
Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please Him , for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.
Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.
Romans 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
Originally posted by JesusIsAlive
Look if you persist in this foolishness I'm a have to look you up in the Sweet Pickles Yearbook. Just ask Rocatell, his name is in there.Now what is it going to be (has one hand on Sweet Pickles Yearbook).
My faith is based on the Word of God--not feelings. I don't feel saved, I know without a modicum of doubt that I am saved. I walk by faith not by sight (sight represents all five senses). I do not relate to God by feelings I relate to God by faith. I don't feel that Jesus Christ died for my sins I believe that He did.
[B]2 Corinthians 5:7
For we walk by faith, not by sight.Hebrews 11:6
But without faith it is impossible to please Him , for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.Galatians 2:20
I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.Romans 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.Hebrews 11:1
Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. [/B]
Don't try to insult. You really suck at it.
Bible quotes don't prove your point.
Originally posted by ThePittman
The base of Faith is that you don’t have proof but a feeling; you have faith that what you believe and what you have been taught is true. If you drop a ball you know it will fall, you don’t have faith that it will fall.