Ion vs Phoenix

Started by manorastroman38 pages

what? how is ion like the UN and galactus combined? that doesn't even make sense. is ion essential to the universe, a planet devourer, as well as a universal eraser?

moreover, don't call me a fanboy just because i'm not a "blindly fanatic" mr. master devotee. i don't give two shits about phoenix. i think it's a stupid concept and jean grey bores the hell out of me.

ion can remake the multiverse, huh? musta missed that issue.

Ion has the powers of Parallax who remade the universe and could wipe out anyone with entory rifts which have the same effect as the UN.

When said he was like Galactus I ment in power level.

Perhaps you need to read up on your comics alittle.

i suppose if i read more comics, totally illogical comparisons will make a little more sense. and galactus is BARELY universal in scope. so ion is sorta like galactus? i see.

ion can remake the multiverse, huh? musta missed that issue.

PS: orignal ion had the powers of parallax. current ion can CHANNEL the power battery and the starheart, but is by no means as powerful as both.

last issue he was granted full access to the power battery and the guardians power, the same power that allowed Parallax to reshape the universe and hypertime. Plus he has the Starheart. Actually Galactus is Universal as the scan says below.

Maybe you really DO need to brush up on comics.

Originally posted by Mr Master

The Watcher is telling the story exactly the way it happened.

Not really...

Originally posted by manorastroman
and galactus is BARELY universal in scope.

you need to brush up on reading comprehension. i know galactus is universal in scope, but only barely. most of his forms are certainly not.

admittedly, i missed the issue where he is granted the full battery. but doesn't he only have jade's portion of the starheart? or did jade have the whole of the starheart?

perhaps if i brush up on my comics, i'll come across the issue where ion remakes the multiverse.

He has the same powers as Parallax who remade the universe and Hypertime and he has the starheart.

And yeah i would really brush up on the reading.

man you are really dancing. you still haven't said whether jade had the entirety of the starheart when kyle recieved her energy.

ion can remake the multiverse, huh? musta missed that issue. 🙂

He doesnt need the full starheart, he has full access to the power battery and the guardians power like Parallax had.

I never said he remade the universe I just said since he has the same powers as someone who did it. HE could if he choose to.

having full access to the battery doesn't, to the best of my knowledge, equate to having the full power of the guardians. like, AT ALL.

you hypocrite. you slam GS for twisting evidence, yet you fully imply that ion has the entirety of the starheart as well as the guardins power? and claim that ion can remake the multiverse?

right on the previous page you said he had the full powers of the battery and starheart and that he could remake the multiverse.

AND to top it all of, you used off-panel alternate universe as evidence against phoenix.

dealt with.

Originally posted by Supreme being
I edited it that was a bit uncalled for on my part.
I didn't know how to edit, until maybe a month ago.
You knew how to do it in a couple hours???

Read the last issue of Ion.

The Guardians gave him full access to their power and the power battery so that if the corps was ever destroyed he could remake it.

And Parallax remade the Universe and Ion has his power and more, so logically he can do it if he wishes.

There is a difference between remaking a Universe, and remaking an infinite number of universes (that make up the multiverse) which is what the Ultimate Nullifier has been shown to do...

Parallax did that in the form of Hypertime which is different timelines that make up a kind of temporal multiverse. And Ion has his power and more.

Originally posted by juggernaut66666
The Phoenix fans are getting pwned
It's a plot, and they are also depowered, so your point is moot.

Originally posted by bigbran
It's a plot, and they are also depowered, so your point is moot.

What are you reffering to?

Originally posted by manorastroman
you need to brush up on reading comprehension. i know galactus is universal in scope, but only barely. most of his forms are certainly not.

admittedly, i missed the issue where he is granted the full battery. but doesn't he only have jade's portion of the starheart? or did jade have the whole of the starheart?

perhaps if i brush up on my comics, i'll come across the issue where ion remakes the multiverse.


Classic Ion had the power of Parallax the Central Battery and Oblivion
Parallax was able to create a multi-verse so Ion could do it as well cause he is more powerfull than Parallax
Jade got back her Starheart powers from Ion (and Kyle even boosted her powers)
Current Ion not only has Green Lantern and Starheart powers he has whole new powers because those 2 mutated within him that is why he became Ion Current Ion is the Gl corps he has acces to all the Gls and the Guardians powers + If the Corps get's destroyed Ion can re-create it without giving up his powers making him atleast equal to Classic Ion (Classic Ion had to give up his powers to re-create the Corps)

Originally posted by Ext@nt
What are you reffering to?
I just read the thread.
Juggs will fill you in.

the last issue of Ion.

The Guardians gave him full access to their power and the power battery so that if the corps was ever destroyed he could remake it.

Originally posted by manorastroman
by the way, you're not one to get mighty about twisting scans. remember when phoenix gave beyonder more than he could handle and you conveniently left that out of your argument?

If your going to open your mouth about a seperate issue, in attempt to make me look wrong, be sure of your accusations are solid.

Rachel NEVER in her whole existence has given Beyonder Power....NEVER.

To begin with,

It is Beyonder that gives Rachel Summers that power that is BEYOND the Phoenix Force.

Beyonder gives Rachel enough power to kill him

"I offer you a choice, Phoenix...you may SLAY me"
"I herewith grant YOU SUFFICIENT Power to do so"

Rachel knows this...and plans on using it against Beyonder.

Beyonder gave Phoenix the power of the Force, and beyond.

"She has become ALL she EVER dreamed of...and FAR, FAR more.

"When my mom came to this place to SAVE the universe"

"It's only fair you be with me...when I DESTROY it"

Rachel blows JAHF (protector of the Crystal) out the way like if he wasn't even there.

Rachel was about to Unleash the Neutron Galaxy by shattering it's protective Energy Sphere

Rachel was going to crack it open...with the power Beyonder gave her, that turned her into Phoenix (exactly like Jean Grey according to the Watcher) and MORE.

This is why she didn't do it, she connected with every being in the Universe, and saw how meaningful and precious every individual life is.

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