LOL good Phoenix Fanboys need to be hit over the head to get it don't they?
Kyke has seen Hal use the Entropy Rifts, he knows about them he knows how they were made since Hal explained it.
So there goes the Avatars.
He knows how to channel huge blasts of energy, he's show that on panel.
So he (Like so many shi-ar and other alien laser blasts have) severly wounds the force and it runs away.
LOL I seriously think Phoenix Fanboyism should be considered a delusional state.
is that all you guys got? im not a fanboy you are nah nah na nah nah
cmon pathetic,hal or spectre does it make a diference NO
none of my points were found to be false or misleading yours have
first you try and get people to believe parralax and ion are the same person,then you show scans and ION IS DOING NOTHING BUT TALKING
about altering the time line oh boy wow! well where is the proof?
ion is more powerfull than parralax well what about my gun theory huh?oh i thought so
ION IS NOT PARRALAX
ION has his own comic what has he done?
LOL you obviusly need to re-read what i wrote above.
Ion is has the same powers as Parallax and MORE.
He has seen Hal use the Rifts, Hal explained to everyone in Zero Hour how he made the rifts so Kyle knows how to do it. Bye Bye Avatar. hehe
He's already show on panel he can channel more power then has been used in the past to wound and drive off the force.
Other people on this thread have seen the light about this. Only delusional fanboys can't seem to accept it.
The Avatar is vulnerable and without it the Force is Inert.
Originally posted by jffxex1980
You obviously don't know the full scope of the PF's powers.
You know parts of the story,
now here are the details...
Originally posted by jffxex1980
1. She held the whole universe in the palm of her hand,
1. That was a visualization of the universe, in it, Jean saw it's Future (the events of here Comes Tomorrow) because of this, it was poetically titled, "a badly wounded orphan universe"
First of all Jean didn't even KNOW what it was, UNTIL she was told by "the consciousness":
Phoenix is CLUELESS as to WHAT this is, or WHAT to do with it.
Jean says, "Did I have to FIX something that was dying?
What is it?"
It tells her, "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"
Fine.....Now WHAT does that mean?....Jean Grey DOESN'T KNOW either.
"But...but WHAT's that supposed to mean?
Phoenix asked, "but what's that supposed to mean?"
AFTER She was told it's a "A badly wounded Orphan Universe...Phoenix work"
Now, it TELLS Phoenix WHAT THAT MEANS,
"That Henry's heart's broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..
Is it saying,
"This Universe needs to be Fixed in anyway?" NO!
"This Universe is injured or damged and needs to be repaired?" NO!
"This Universe needs a Future? NO!
So WHAT does it SAY WHEN Jean ASKED "but what's that supposed to mean?"
"That Henry's heart's broken, that Scott succumbs to loneliness", ect..ect..
(This is the OUTCOME of Here Comes Tomorrow)
NOW, to Change that OUTCOME, Phoenix did NOT manipulate the Universe.
AM I LYING?
Here is GRANT MORRISON and company telling us HOW Phoenix CHANGED that Future.
Just like in the Comic book, which anyone can see as plain as day.
She actually went to the past and forced Scott to be with Emma
In order to PREVENT the events of "Here Comes Tomorrow"
continues in the next post...
i would actually let it drop but do you notice that your a very rude person and i make very valid points which you never touched because you cant,again ion saw ion can do hahahahaha
ion has the same powers but is he parralax no
lots of people have the power cosmic are they all the same no they have developed may stunts that differ and are not a power template at the same intensity
even if it was- Kyle-ion does not have the experience that Hal -parralax has done phoenix wins
Originally posted by jffxex1980
2.spliced it from other realties so it wouldn't get infected,
Not True.
Here Comes Tomorrow is a terrible Future due to Sublime and others.
Phoenix amputated the Future Timeline, that's all, she NEVER "spliced the universe from other realities"?
WHEN Phoenix Amputated the Future it was only to DISINFECT the Future
Here Phoenix says, "Some KIND of Bacteria Colony gone rogue...I had to Amputate the whole Future"
Jean is told, "Phoenix DISINFECTION Successful"
We know that by Phoenix cutting off the Future, the Infection, which was Sublime, was destroyed,
but the EVENTS that took place, have NOT been changed.
(hence the Future THAT is NOW, is STILL, Here Comes Tomorrow)
Phoenix ended up damaging this Future accidently when she disinfected it, and had to Repair it in the White Hot Room.
Originally posted by jffxex1980
3.and rewrote it.
The biggest Feat in this entire issue, is when Jean Repaired the Future.
OK NOW THIS is WHERE Jean is REPAIRING the FUTURE she damage while DISINFECTING it.
It then says, "No, Turn around, No End yet, there, Turn, Here before always, HOSPITAL White Hot
This is ACTUALLY the process taking place of a FUTURE being Repaired,
The "the Claw" takes the Future into the "HOSPITAL, White Hot Room"
As You Can SEE, around the Pink Crystal Power is Flowing, that's Phoenix REPAIRING the FUTURE
THEN
Jean loses concentration "IN THERE" (Inside the White Hot Room) and she is reminded to "Now heal wound MAKE Better FUTURE QUICKLY"
"Heart got stuck", (Because she Wasn't concentrating) Turn (some kinda White Hot Room code word for, "keep on fixing"😉
MAKE BETTER WHAT?
FUTURE!!!
HOW can Phoenix be INSIDE the White Hot Room, while being clearly OUTSIDE it when she says, "LOST CONCENTRATION IN THERE"?
The White Hot Room, is the HEART of the Phoenix, that's HOW:
AFTER Phoenix Repairs the Future in the White Hot Room (Her Heart)
NEXT PANEL:
"Telekinetic control of all those Atoms at once isn't as easy as it sounds in training, NOT even for a White Phoenix of the Crown..."
"Telekinetic control of all those Atoms?".......
of WHAT Atoms?
The ONLY action I've seen, is A Future being Repaired.
It's actually talking about the FUTURE that was just Repaired.
Originally posted by jffxex1980
She contained a black hole in X-men Phoenix endsong,
Come on you kidding.
Superman closing a black hole with his bare hands:
Originally posted by jffxex1980
and stabilized the whole universe from coming apart during the phoenix saga and that's when she wasn't in full phoenix mode. She was still learning her powers at that time.
Not True.
Here Phoenix Tries to FIX the Lattice Alone
"But it's NOWHERE NEAR good enough"
and Phoenix does NOT "contain" the power of the N-Galaxy that does the destroying.
"a Network of interlocking Stasis Fields NEUTRALIZES the power of the N-Galaxy"....she was only able to knit the interlocking Stasis Fields back together
Phoenix even says, their "ONLY Hope is to Knit the Lattice Back Together BEFORE it PASSES the Point of No Return"
The Neutron Galaxy is the Force that destroys a Universe
HELD in Check by a Series of Interlocking Stasis Fields
"Phoenix flew into the Energy Matrix And, with the X-MEN'S HELP, knitted the Fields back together again"
Actually Phoenix was getting ABSORBED by the N-Galaxy
With the Life-Force of ALL the X-Men she Anchors herself to Reality, to avoid being ABSORBED
"the Patterns of her life of the X-Men's LIVES, BECOME ONE with the Lattice"
"For ALL Her awesome Power, She CAN'T DO IT ALONE"
ALL the X-Men gave their LIFE-FORCE to help REPAIR the Lattice.
Ion has Parallax's power, hal has told him how he made the entropy rifts. Kyle knows how to make them.
This erases the Avatar otu of the picture.
Now the Phoenix is just the force and has never been able to mount an offence on it's own, not once.
So Ion blasts it and it flees wounded.
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it any less true.
oh so now you have proof that parralax taught ion how to do it hehe
where does he expain how the physics work? where? now what are you going to do repeat your stuff over and over
this has nothing to do with what i like which everyone who reads the post can tell,its you who do not like it,Ion is not parralax so all the info on parralax has Nothing to do with Ion except their getting their powers from the same source,
Originally posted by starlock
oh so now you have proof that parralax taught ion how to do it hehe
where does he expain how the physics work? where? now what are you going to do repeat your stuff over and over
this has nothing to do with what i like which everyone who reads the post can tell,its you who do not like it,Ion is not parralax so all the info on parralax has Nothing to do with Ion except their getting their powers from the same source,
Are we absolutely sure this isn't David Richards back from the sanitarium to haunt us?
Ion is Parallax and more, he has the same powers and abilities and Hal has told him in Zero Hour how to use them.
Plus he has the Starheart which gives him even more powers.
Originally posted by starlock
i would actually let it drop but do you notice that your a very rude person and i make very valid points which you never touched because you cant,again ion saw ion can do hahahahaha
ion has the same powers but is he parralax no
lots of people have the power cosmic are they all the same no they have developed may stunts that differ and are not a power template at the same intensity
even if it was- Kyle-ion does not have the experience that Hal -parralax has done phoenix wins
ok juggernaut6666 valid point and only half an insult ok,i actually love ion i am not kidding,he is my favorite character ,i think it comes down to experience and the original guy who posted said
Can Ion put the Phoenix down for good? i say no
i do not believe he has the experience and hey im not saying are you outta your mind,i am just giving valid points on my behalf thats all
i am going home and i will hopefully get my computer fixed to respond,i really dont hate anybody so lets keep it friendly
Of course he can put her down it is not that difficult he only needs to kill the avatar for ion is farmore powerfull then parallax and the only guy who was able to beat him was the Spectre and Phoenix is nowhere to him (Spectre)he has full expirience over his powers and even if he hadn't he would only need to blast her few times
who cares if ion is parallax this is not a phoenix vs parallax forum you idiots so stop bring him up this the phoenix vs ion OKAY and lets stay on subject ion thoughful doesn't have enough power to defeat the phoenix let alone destroy and wouldn't stand a chance against the crown. and whoever stated that to destroy the force all you have to do is kill the avatar are you that naive can you destroy the universe by destroying eternity NO and that been shown when thanos consumed both him and infinity. the star stayed the same along with the planet why didn't it become a VOID i wonder why 😛 the force is multiversal i doubt it would let it's strongest avatar be beaten by the likes of ion 😂 😆 😆
