Originally posted by NemeBro
When I said "Kratos is faster," I meant that Kratos could kill him before Sephiroth could fully process a thought.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZaSipHuO4
First I assume that the FF7 world has the same gravity as the Earth, 9.8 M\s:
We need the time that Genesis fell for, which starts at 2:16 and ends at 2:55 which means 39 seconds of falling time.
Here we have some equations for a falling body: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_for_a_falling_body
http://www.gravitycalc.com/
Note: This doesn't take into account air resistance, weight of Genesis or the fact that Sephiroth hit him down (Giving him a faster acceleration).
distance = ½ * (Gravity * Time^2)
distance = 0.5 * (9.8*39^2)
distance = 0.5 * (9.8*1521)
distance = 0.5 * 14 905.8
distance = 7 452 Metres
Sephiroth moved from the Junon cannon, to a point at least 7000 metres in the air in one second.
Mach 21. Show Kratos matching even close to that speed.
Don't worry I have responses to the rest of the stuff, just a bit busy.
Despite salivating at the calcs I have to point out that after his first flip Genesis fall speed is being reduced. Besides being able to see him moving slower when it hits 2:18 theres the point that after he blasts Angeal we see him, who unlike Genesis is not in control of his descent, falling at a much greater speed than Genesis.
That and it didn't visually look like 7km high. Not that I recall why Kratos' actual movement speed is above hypersonic..
Originally posted by BloodRain
Despite salivating at the calcs I have to point out that after his first flip Genesis fall speed is being reduced. Besides being able to see him moving slower when it hits 2:18 theres the point that after he blasts Angeal we see him, who unlike Genesis is not in control of his descent, falling at a much greater speed than Genesis.That and it didn't visually look like 7km high. Not that I recall why Kratos' actual movement speed is above hypersonic..
Angeal got hit with a blast that added onto the acceleration of his falling. (Add on the next fact (Which also goes for Genesis slowing down)...)
If a person is straight they fall faster than if they are laying flat. Like I said air resistance wasn't put into the calculation, but then again neither was Sephiroths attack.
Prove Genesis has control of his descent (Moreso than a normal human).
Actually ad the blast was facing up if anything it would launch him 'away' from the ground.
How about 2:18 where we clearly see his speed sharply reduced? Added to the point that its visually a few hundred feet up at most, as 1:42 shows us what 4000m looks like. If it was 7km the area they were fighting at would be a spec.
Originally posted by K1ll3rSeven kilometers? Hahahahahahahahahaha. No that was not seven kilometers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6ZaSipHuO4First I assume that the FF7 world has the same gravity as the Earth, 9.8 M\s:
We need the time that Genesis fell for, which starts at 2:16 and ends at 2:55 which means 39 seconds of falling time.
Here we have some equations for a falling body: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equations_for_a_falling_body
http://www.gravitycalc.com/Note: This doesn't take into account air resistance, weight of Genesis or the fact that Sephiroth hit him down (Giving him a faster acceleration).
distance = ½ * (Gravity * Time^2)
distance = 0.5 * (9.8*39^2)
distance = 0.5 * (9.8*1521)
distance = 0.5 * 14 905.8
distance = 7 452 MetresSephiroth moved from the Junon cannon, to a point at least 7000 metres in the air in one second.
Mach 21. Show Kratos matching even close to that speed.
Don't worry I have responses to the rest of the stuff, just a bit busy.
Well, the laziest thing I could do is point out the various times Kratos has reacted to, and deflected, lightning. The average speed of lightning being 60,000 meters per second. If I really wanted to wank that feat, I could point out the average speed of lightning is that slow only because of the air friction from the origin and destination of the lightning bolt, over a shorter distance, it should be faster. But 60,000 meters per second is more than enough.
Of course there is also the time that Kratos reacted and blocked from point blank the explosion in Chains of Olympus, which IIRC was calculated to mach 28.
Originally posted by NemeBro
Seven kilometers? Hahahahahahahahahaha. No that was not seven kilometers.Well, the laziest thing I could do is point out the various times Kratos has reacted to, and deflected, lightning. The average speed of lightning being 60,000 meters per second. If I really wanted to wank that feat, I could point out the average speed of lightning is that slow only because of the air friction from the origin and destination of the lightning bolt, over a shorter distance, it should be faster. But 60,000 meters per second is more than enough.
Of course there is also the time that Kratos reacted and blocked from point blank the explosion in Chains of Olympus, which IIRC was calculated to mach 28.
Dude, Lightning (the part we see as 'Lightning'😉 is somewhere around 1/3 or 2/3 the speed of light, not a measly 60,000 m/s.
As for actual movement speed, unless Kratos has the Boots of Hermes, he isn't even at Mach 1 afaik.
If you want to be able to swat something as fast as lighting out of the air, reaction time by itself would not be enough, you need to be able to see it coming AND move your arm fast enough to match or slightly exceed the bolt of lighting. Kratos has both kinds of speed. He doesn't use his super speed often because it aint his style.