Kratos vs Sephiroth

Originally posted by TheGoldenSpy
Helios blinds things with it. Way more powerful than a normal flashlight. If someone could please post the fight against Cronos to see how powerful it is. That's just from Kratos manipulating his head. Helios himself in control trying to kill Kratos, there's no reason he would reduce his own powers and set 2 different kinds of intensities for no reason.

Closing his eyes is still a reaction time.

Obviously. But was Cronos blinded completely by it or merely stunned? Difference there is. And I can think of a reason it might be less intense than the sun, what with him being clearly injured and all.

Indeed. Ftl? Lolno.

Originally posted by TheGoldenSpy
Aura, this aint your normal light, this stuff has knocked giants heads back just by it hitting. It's powerful. The fact remains that Kratos was able to track down the source. Something he could not have done if he was blind.

Killer, it doesn't matter. If the first part wasn't strong enough, he would still be blinded by the second part if he didn't react fast enough. And i'm talking about the left hand. He didn't use his right hand to block it. You can't see the left hand as it's covered in light.

And if you wanna use in game descriptions as evidence. Kratos makes the entire planet shake with the nemean cestus.

It sure seems like normal light, just very very bright.

Lol, here he is not reacting faster than light.

Sure, now post that in-game description.

Originally posted by TheAuraAngel
Obviously. But was Cronos blinded completely by it or merely stunned? Difference there is. And I can think of a reason it might be less intense than the sun, what with him being clearly injured and all.

Indeed. Ftl? Lolno.

Blinded completely for a bit. And that was a mere flash of light compared to the continuous burst that Helios was using.

About speed... Cloud can block bullets(Advent Children/Complete), and Zack can dodge/block machine-gun fire from multiple guns(Crisis Core and Last Order OVA) and cut a tank-bullet in half(Crisis Core).
And none of them are faster than Sephiroth.

Originally posted by SHM
About speed... Cloud can block bullets(Advent Children/Complete), and Zack can dodge/block machine-gun fire from multiple guns(Crisis Core and Last Order OVA) and cut a tank-bullet in half(Crisis Core).
And none of them are faster than Sephiroth.

True, so we logically assume Sephiroth must be way faster than them. We don't know for how much, though, nor to what extent. However, that doesn't mean he moves at light-speed. Actually that's one of the most ridiculous arguments I heard in a long time in a versus thread.

As for the ''multiple'' machine-guns dodging/blocking. Notice that some (if not most) of the bullets misses.

Clearly Kratos kicks Sephs ass with his FTL eyelids. 🙄

Originally posted by Nephthys
Clearly Kratos kicks Sephs ass with his FTL eyelids. 🙄

Yup, that one is also stupid. 😂

Originally posted by Nephthys
Clearly Kratos kicks Sephs ass with his FTL eyelids. 🙄

Well, his eyelids aren't FTL, but they can still kick his ass easily. 313

Originally posted by SHM
About speed... Cloud can block bullets(Advent Children/Complete), and Zack can dodge/block machine-gun fire from multiple guns(Crisis Core and Last Order OVA) and cut a tank-bullet in half(Crisis Core).
And none of them are faster than Sephiroth.

I was under the impression that he did that during gameplay. And blocking/deflecting lightning doesn't mean he can dodge or react to it.

How the hell do you constantly block something in a fight if you can't react to it?

Well, if its lightning then I assume you hold up a lightning rod of some description.

AKA: Block with something metally.

Gold does not conduct lighting.

Ahem! I said 'Metally' not all metals. I am not a moron. 🙄

Yeah, but Kratos uses the golden fleece to redirect the bolts Zeus throws at him in mid air. It's legit lighting timing. No matter how much Zeus telegraphs the bolts it would not help in timing the exact instance and area the bolt would hit.

It's like if someone told or made a gesture to you a split second before that they were gonna shoot you. You move out of the way and it's aim dodging, but you can't just stay there and catch the bullet all of a sudden just because you know their gonna shoot you, much less constantly like Kratos does with Zeus's lighting bolts.

I'd like to see this scene please. I'm not really sure what I'm talking about here, so I'd like to know.

Dear lord.

Both fights against Zeus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyOVZYWXD8w#t=2m8s]

Christ, do you people ask for a video for everything around here?

Look at 3:59

As a matter of fact, he blocked a whole storm of it from giant zeus at the end of their first fight in GOW2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na7K1uX4268&feature=related

Originally posted by GrieverSquall
True, so we logically assume Sephiroth must be way faster than them. We don't know for how much, though, nor to what extent. However, that doesn't mean he moves at light-speed. Actually that's one of the most ridiculous arguments I heard in a long time in a versus thread.

As for the ''multiple'' machine-guns dodging/blocking. Notice that some (if not most) of the bullets misses.

More ridiculous is you assuming that I said he moves at light-speed when I never did.

But what really takes the cake in the mater of ridiculous arguments, is the fanboys saying Kratos can dodge and block lightning based on gameplay mechanics.
IIRC you can increase Cloud's stats to make him faster, causing the enemies to "miss" their attacks in FFVII, one of these attacks being lightning. So I guess Cloud(and Sephiroth by extension) can dodge ligthning now. 🙄

In the end of the day, it doesn't matter who or what Kratos defeated. The main character will allways defeat his/her enemies, even if they are much stronger than him/her. It can be because of some plot-device, or PIS and CIS, or simply gameplay-mechanics, but the main character will allways prevail.
We have to look at what the character in question can actually do(outside of gameplay) to judge his/her strength, not the enemies they defeated because of the plot demanding it.

Both Kratos and Sephiroth have similar experience(being soldiers and all, before the story of their games started), but Sephiroth showed(in cutscenes) he is faster, and MUCH more versatile in his abilities, than Kratos.

Originally posted by SHM
More ridiculous is you assuming that I said he moves at light-speed when I never did.

But what really takes the cake in the mater of ridiculous arguments, is the fanboys saying Kratos can dodge and block lightning based on [b]gameplay mechanics.
IIRC you can increase Cloud's stats to make him faster, causing the enemies to "miss" their attacks in FFVII, one of these attacks being lightning. So I guess Cloud(and Sephiroth by extension) can dodge ligthning now. 🙄 [/B]

Relax, I never said nor assumed that you did.

I saw some guy on Naruto Forums claiming that Cloud reacted / evaded lightning attacks in Advent Children. Specifically in the part where Kadaj performs and shoots some blue beams of energy at Cloud at the start of their battle. According to the guy, that's lightning Materia. I'm not sure about that, though. If that is true, then Sephiroth is faster than a lightning-timer.