Originally posted by K1ll3r
Really? Show me them. Keeping in mind that Sephiroth can move at 2 km\s.
2 km/s? Wow, that's (relatively speaking of course) a sloth's level of speed compared to what Kratos has reacted to.
The build-up Leader for a Lightning Bolt moves at 60km/s.
The Return Stroke (what we perceive as the Lightning Bolt) travels at close to Light Speed.
To put it into perspective:
[Where C is the speed of Light which is equal to ~3x10^8 m/s]
1. Sephiroth's speed is 2km/s, which is 0.0000067 C.
2. The Build-up Leader in a Lightning Strike has a speed of 60km/s, which is 0.0002 C. That's 30 times faster than Sephiroth.
3. (i)http://amsglossary.allenpress.com/glossary/search?id=return-stroke1.
According to that link, the return stroke has a speed of about 1x10^8 m/s, which is ~0.34 C. That's ~51000 times faster than Sephiroth.
(ii)http://books.google.ca/books?id=TuMa5lAa3RAC&pg=PA414&lpg=PA414&dq=Speed+of+a+return+stroke&source=bl&ots=qu0ycD9bnB&sig=d2TJ6ypiif-FHWi4rNySiVHy6pM&hl=en&ei=Ks2BTPrEM8TcnAfFt_zgAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CC0Q6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false (first paragraph of the page)
According to that link, the return stroke has a speed of close to 2x10^8 m/s, which is ~0.67 C. That's ~105000 times faster than Sephiroth.
I'll give you three guesses as to what Zeus tosses at his enemies, Kratos included.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
This takes place in Nibelheim...Not to mention it would take Kratos a lot of time to find Sephiroths thread and in that time...well Kratos would have no head.
Everything after "Nibelheim..." is incorrect.
a) The method that Kratos typically uses to enter the Loom Chamber is not bound by Space or Time, given by how Kratos was able to enter the Loom Chamber while on the Summit of Sacrifice after the fight with Zeus. Kratos has access to it from any place at any time.
Sephiroth however, would not have access to the Loom Chamber. If he wants to access it, he'd have to make his way through the entire Temple of the Fates, by which time, Kratos would have found Sephiroth's thread. As this fight obviously does not take place anywhere near the Temple of the Fates, it's fairly obvious that Sephiroth is not gaining entrance to the Loom Chamber.
b) Seeing as Kratos is the master of the Loom Chamber and has as much time as he wants, he would have little to no trouble finding Sephiroth's thread. Any part of Sephiroth's life would be accessible to Kratos, given that he literally has control over Time...well, Time as far as an entity's time is concerned.
c) This is in response to your ridiculous implication that Sephiroth could somehow cut off Kratos' head at any time, let alone in the Loom Chamber.
Kratos can slow down time in the Loom Chamber. Assuming Sephiroth can even gain access to the Loom Chamber (which is impossible in this fight), Sephiroth moves at a meager Mach 5, which is a level of speed far below what Kratos has reacted to and dodged/reflected/parried. With the time slowdown in effect, Sephiroth will be no faster than a snail in Kratos' eyes. Kratos will in fact be moving faster than Sephiroth.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Where did you get this information? (average time of lightning strike)
GHCC (affiliated with NASA) - http://thunder.msfc.nasa.gov/primer/primer2.htmlIt is in the second paragraph of the page. Alternatively, just do a page-text search (Ctrl+F) and search for the term 'microseconds'.
I cross-referenced one of Kratos' basic strikes with a lightning bolt that occurs in the background of one of Kratos' fights in GoWIII (it has only one flash). They match-up. In fact, I think the basic strike might be a tad faster. I'll have to recheck.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
Also, before I take this at face value, like so many of you don't take Supernova at face value even though I have statements from the creators, where is this stated?
Originally posted by K1ll3r I ain't over-hyping anything.Creators have stated it to be as powerful as an expanding star. Kratos cannot tank that.
Link to statements plox.
Originally posted by K1ll3r
The gods Kratos has killed is much much bigger than him, to hit one you could blindly throw a stone. Whereas Kratos would actually need to aim to hit Sephiroth.Why? What speed was Poseidon moving at?
Accelerates from 0 to Above Mach 1 in an instant.
He then likely slows down, and breaks the Sound Barrier again with more acceleration.
Originally posted by iChaos
Didn't see your post. Anyway, I get what you're saying, but yeah. But yeah, I don't feel like arguing over this matter so okay.And, wakkawakkawakka, Sephiroth can hurt Kratos just like anyone else can 😆
That's right, you'd get your forum butt handed to you if you argued with BloodRaw about anything GoW related. uhuh 😛
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Anyone else? You mean to say anyone can hurt a guy who has tanked/stopped attacks from the likes of:
a) Hercules with the Cestus (who possibly lifted the entire World, as a part of his labour to get the Apple of Hesperides + a weapon that amplifies striking strength)
b) Zeus with the BoO (a being roughly as strong as Kratos + A sword capable of cutting through Cronos as if he were butter)
c) Giant Poseidon and his Giant Trident* (a god who is second only to Zeus; who is in his Giant form wielding a Giant Trident).
* Yes, Kratos does apparently stop Giant Poseidon's physical Trident attack with his bare hands. I can post up the vid if you want.
Yeah, anyone else can hurt Kratos...almost as ridiculous as Sephiroth hurting Kratos with his sword.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Sephiroth with his mere spiderman level strength harming Kratos who can tank slashes from the BoO wielded by Zeus?(among other ridiculous durability feats) A guy as strong as Kratos, who alone can manipulate hundreds of thousands, if not millions of tons? Nah.
Lolwut?
Originally posted by DarkPhoenix
That's right, you'd get your forum butt handed to you if you argued with BloodRaw about anything GoW related.
Right *rolls eyes*
Originally posted by DemonicPhoenix
a) Hercules with the Cestus (who possibly lifted the entire World, as a part of his labour to get the Apple of Hesperides + a weapon that amplifies striking strength)b) Zeus with the BoO (a being roughly as strong as Kratos + A sword capable of cutting through Cronos as if he were butter)
c) Giant Poseidon and his Giant Trident* (a god who is second only to Zeus; who is in his Giant form wielding a Giant Trident).
* Yes, Kratos does apparently stop Giant Poseidon's physical Trident attack with his bare hands. I can post up the vid if you want.
Lol yeah, okay, man.
Originally posted by Demonic Phoenix
Link to statements plox.
http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/284/crisis-core-complete-guide-keyword-collection/
This is his statement...LOL. A little word bank that just describes what the moved showed. Scroll down to Super Nova.😂
Basically, its a desperate reach on his part. Sephy is no threat to Kratos.
Originally posted by BloodRawEngine
😐I'll take that as a compliment.
Looking back, I cannot fathom why I typed such a statement like that. It was late at night and I was exhausted. >__>
Originally posted by CosmicComet
http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/284/crisis-core-complete-guide-keyword-collection/This is his statement...LOL. A little word bank that just describes what the moved showed. Scroll down to Super Nova.😂
Basically, its a desperate reach on his part. Sephy is no threat to Kratos.
That's what he's using as a Creator's statement? 😐
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I didn't do any exact calculations for Poseidon's flight speed, but we do know titan heights, Stig Asmussen said Cronos is over 1600 feet tall, and we know that titans are all pretty much the same size. That's about 1/3 of a mile. If I had to guess, Poseidon was coming down from 5 maybe 6 miles above where that titan was, seeing as from that distance one still couldn't see the top of Mount Olympus at all. He took about 6 seconds to hit the titan. That's a possible mile a second top speed/1.6km/sec. Zeus being far more powerful than Poseidon likely flies much faster, in fact considering his God of War 2 flying feat, he does.
Not even the most of it. Kratos reacts to and defeats Charon who looks like he's teleporting when he's actually just casually walking. By pulling up the Sun Shield he was able to block a massive near point blank explosion from a dying persephone--which is a high-end hypersonic reaction feat considering even minor in comparison C4 explosions are well over 20 times faster than sound--. And of course he can block lightning from Zeus, not to mention Zeus himself can teleport, fly, transform into lightning and produce up to 8 dopplegangers to attack at once.
It's pretty much impossible for Sephiroth to blitz Kratos.
Originally posted by iChaosLife must be hard then, I can't imagine how you live with yourself.
If you have a point, make it. I don't have time for stupid bullshit.
Kratos is still stronger, his reaction-time ensures that Sephiroth can never blitz him, he is durable enough to tank any attacks, and can quite effortlessly cut through Sephiroth.
Originally posted by NemeBrowait, what defense feats does kratos have that makes you think he could tank blows from seph?
Life must be hard then, I can't imagine how you live with yourself.Kratos is still stronger, his reaction-time ensures that Sephiroth can never blitz him, he is durable enough to tank any attacks, and can quite effortlessly cut through Sephiroth.
Originally posted by iChaos
If you have a point, make it. I don't have time for stupid bullshit.
Ironic how you state that you do not have time for stupid bullshit, yet you undoubtedly have a penchant for spouting stupid bullshit every single time you post.
Originally posted by menokokoro
wait, what defense feats does kratos have that makes you think he could tank blows from seph?
Originally posted by Demonic PhoenixAnyone else? You mean to say anyone can hurt a guy ([b]Kratos
) who has tanked/stopped attacks from the likes of:a) Hercules with the Cestus (who possibly lifted the entire World, as a part of his labour to get the Apple of Hesperides + a weapon that amplifies striking strength)
b) Zeus with the BoO (a being roughly as strong as Kratos + A sword capable of cutting through Cronos as if he were butter)
c) Giant Poseidon and his Giant Trident* (a god who is second only to Zeus; who is in his Giant form wielding a Giant Trident).
* Yes, Kratos does apparently stop Giant Poseidon's physical Trident attack with his bare hands. I can post up the vid if you want.[/b]