Everything COSMIC in Marvel - the Hierarchy, Battles, Feats, Q & A , scans galore!

Started by King Kandy178 pages

There's no reason to include PR Beyonder... He doesn't exist. It's like if Wolverine kills Dr. Doom, and then in another issue it's revealed it's a Doom-Bot....

No ones going to be saying "Wolverine Is Strtonger then Pre-Retcon Dr. Doom." That would be stupid... In continuity, that Doom was ALWAYS a Doom-Bot, just like Beyonder per continuity was ALWAYS and Inhuman/Mutant.

Jamie Braddock Warped the White Hot Room ("Heart of the Phoenix"😉 like child's play.

This is the WHR:

Jamie teleported Rachel and Betsy to the Room,

then after a short while he begins to Morph the White Hot Room:

He appears flying by an image of Captain Britain:

Jamie Braddock with total control of the WHR ("Heart of the Phoenix"😉

Jamie Warps it into a Crystal like object.

pointandlaugh White Hot Room

Jamie created that Alternate Universe and that Alternate Jamie,

anyone who actually reads the issue unbiasedly would know that.

Here Kitty Pride is able to jump from the Universe Earth-616 to Jamie's Alternate Reality,

and back to 616,

she can do this using Widget's Dimensional Gate:

(Excalibur #18 & #19) don't make it clear whether the Jamie in the Other Dimension is real or not.

The World he lives in is certainly an idealized version of what Jamie would consider a paradise - one where racing drivers are revered as the top celebrities of the Planet.

Until the Second installment we are led to believe this is just another Alternate Reality, but then we learn that Earth-616's Jamie is manipulating what is happening.

When the Mainstream Jamie goes to sleep, not only does his counterpart vanish, but so too do the Dirty Angels and the City around them.

This certainly would imply that Mainstream Jamie Created all of them.

Next page we learn,

Widget's Dimensional Gate that leads to this Alternate Reality from 616,

has NO Alternate Reality to go to: hm


"Widget's Dimensional Gate didn't work, I'm trapped on Earth"

That handles the First bull shit

I guess we should ignore this aswell:

(Phoenix & Meggan linked as one are able to transform into certain beings with powers and all)

Dazzler's power comes from Sound waves that permeate through the Universe,

Jamie shuts off all the Sound in that Reality:

Here Jamie makes Havok's own nuclear plasma blast explode the Moon after blasting a hole straight through him:

Right ... cause you can create a full scale Moon in a City size Warp. 😆

Hey if that wasn't enough,

Here Jamie actually turns all the STARS in this Universe into snowflakes apparently:

(in order to turn off Havok's power which came from Stellar Energy at the time)


"No more Stars ... means No more Steller Energy"

It's a rap right there.

Anyone who denies this feat is a hater,

all the true debaters agree on the CLEAR OBVIOUS ON PANEL PROOF!

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
The stars within Jamies reality warp turn to dust so that means Jamie created that universe?

Horrible, horrible argument.

What's horrible is your continuous attempt at demeaning everything anyone else does,

that Phoenix can't do.

"Within Jamie's warp" my ass.

Are you saying he created a Universe within his Warp?

That would be sweet.

Or are you saying it's an illusion?

That would be bull shit

No, he's saying Jamie only had power in a city sized section.... Not that that was an illusion.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, he's saying Jamie only had power in a city sized section....

Which is bull shit

Did you look at the above PROOF?

How did Jamie make himself the ultimate Car Driver in the World in that Universe?

How did Jamie create Stars and a Moon in Space?

How did Jamie cut off the Concept of Sound across that Universe?

How did Jamie Warp all the Stars in that Universe?

Why wasn't Kitty able to return to this Alternate Reality after Jamie fell asleep?

Originally posted by King Kandy
There's no reason to include PR Beyonder... He doesn't exist. It's like if Wolverine kills Dr. Doom, and then in another issue it's revealed it's a Doom-Bot....

No ones going to be saying "Wolverine Is Strtonger then Pre-Retcon Dr. Doom." That would be stupid... In continuity, that Doom was ALWAYS a Doom-Bot, just like Beyonder per continuity was ALWAYS and Inhuman/Mutant.

Originally posted by King Kandy

But in the 80's he was supreme, he was supose to be God and the writers saw him as that too, and unlike a Doombot he lasted or years not 1 or 2 issues.

What about Fan Boy he should be up there
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_Boy

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
But in the 80's he was supreme, he was supose to be God and the writers saw him as that too, and unlike a Doombot he lasted or years not 1 or 2 issues.

I don't care how he was in the eighties, his feats were just illusions, and cosmics playing along...

It's all non-canon, and I see no reason to put him in the top ten...

Originally posted by King Kandy
I don't care how he was in the eighties, his feats were just illusions, and cosmics playing along...

It's all non-canon, and I see no reason to put him in the top ten...


If you want a current list just overlook retconned characters.

Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
If you want a current list just overlook retconned characters.

Why would you include them in the first place? They have no relevance to Marvel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
On the first page of this thread,

the IG and the UN and the CCU are all ranked as standalone powers.

I've never ranked Thanos w/IG.

I know.

That's why I used the words "for instance".

You can put any item/power you want in it's place.vin

Originally posted by King Kandy
Why would you include them in the first place? They have no relevance to Marvel.

To the history of Marvel? - Yes.
And including them doesnt hurt anyone.

..

{edited at Master's request}

-D

Finally!

Marvel has officially categorized HOM (Earth-58163) as an Altered Universe.

Which was Created by Wanda when she Remade the 616 Reality.

House of M (Earth-58163)

http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/House_of_M_%28Earth-58163%29

"It is indeed an Altered Reality --- not an Alternate Reality"

"It was so Altered that events that occurred in the history of Earth-616-normal,
did not necessarily affect those in the House of M Reality"

"Reality-58163 is a core Continuum designation for this unique Altered Reality"

Earth-58163 (HOM Reality)

Is also Officially established as a Universe in the "REALITIES" menu at Marvel.com:

http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/Category:Realities

As you can see,

it's in the company of, amongst others,

"Earth X" - "Ultimate Universe" - "MC2" - "2099" - Mutant X -

"1602" ... which I personally posted the Scans of HOW that Universe was created here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_92-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

Well ... so now we know Wanda Warped the 616 Universe right here:

"She's starting to Remake Reality 616

Indeed.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wanda is a global scale reality warper.

Handled ON Panel and in Bios right here:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/425758_99-everything-cosmic-in-marvel-the-hierarchy-battles-feats-q-a-scans-galore

Handled at Marvel.com right here:

http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/House_of_M_%28Earth-58163%29

and here at Marvel.com:

http://www.marvelcomics.com/universe/Category:Realities

HOM Reality is a Universe of it's own ... Wanda's Universe. swank

Vangaard is an Omniversal Power!

"The Continuum within which you reside has been deemed redundant,

and shall be excised from the Omniversal Template by Vangaard"

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Here Huntara takes her psionic Scythe that can open inter-Dimensional portals,

to strike Vangaard on ALL Planes:

Instead she sees how he came to be:

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Huntara says,

"A new purpose was embraced, to transcend the Omniversal Constant,

voyage from Reality to Reality as harbinger of the Void,

and eliminate those Timelines deemed redundant"

"We are undone,

the Entity ... exists along too many Planes"

"We must flee"

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Here Psi-Lord or adult Franklin Richards is able to shut off the limit inhibitor in his Armour,

he merges with his younger self, and two other team mates,

coupled with the release of his potential:

"Our limitations are history"

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Psi-Lord actually creates a mini-Big Bang of Anti-Matter energy,

and attacks Vagaard with it:

"brace yourselves for the Big Bang"

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That Universe explodes:

Inconceivable ... Space/Time itself has been torn asunder by the resulting cataclysm,

young Richards' powers are vast"

continues in the next post ....

continues ...

Vangaard comes flying right from the heart of the explosion unfazed:

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Finally the Human Torch tries to talk Vangaard out of destroying that Reality:

"How can you be part of that destruction?"

Vangaard responds,

"Imagine the Multiverse as a tree ...
whole branches have flowered beyond the ability of its roots to support,
that it might be thrive, they must periodically be cut away,

Energy is Finite, and, left untended,

the replication of Divergent Realities could exhaust what remains"

This is why Vangaard is allowed to erase UniverseS at will,
it's actually his job to do so in the Cosmic scheme of things. 🙂

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Johnny monologues and Vangaard reveals himself:

Vangaard, allows this Universe to exist:

"My name is ... was ... Johnny Storm,

a Thousand, Thousand Lineates (a Million UniverseS) have I annulled"

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Yall are probably wondering how did Psi-Lord survived that Universal explosion.

He teleported himself out of that Reality into his mini "Sub-Space Pocket"

Originally posted by Mr Master
continues ...

Vangaard comes flying right [B]from the heart of the explosion unfazed:

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Finally the Human Torch tries to talk Vangaard out of destroying that Reality:

"How can you be part of that destruction?"

Vangaard responds,

"Imagine the Multiverse as a tree ...
whole branches have flowered beyond the ability of its roots to support,
that it might be thrive, they must periodically be cut away,

Energy is Finite, and, left untended,

the replication of Divergent Realities could exhaust what remains"

This is why Vangaard is allowed to erase UniverseS at will,
it's actually his job to do so in the Cosmic scheme of things. 🙂

............................................................................................

Johnny monologues and Vangaard reveals himself:

Vangaard, allows this Universe to exist:

"My name is ... was ... Johnny Storm,

a Thousand, Thousand Lineates (a Million UniverseS) have I annulled"

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Yall are probably wondering how did Psi-Lord survived that Universal explosion.

He teleported himself out of that Reality into his mini "Sub-Space Pocket"

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Mr. M, wat issue is that

Would u say Franklin has vast reality warping powers

He was also been Avatar

Vangaard is pretty damn impressive...