Merlyn is being highly overrated. He was only a major player when he had access to the matrix power, he no longer does, it isnt his inherent power but instead an outside source. Ranking Merlyn so high based on what he achieved when augmented by an external factor is like placing Thanos in the top 5 because of how he performed with the IG 🤨
Show us what Merlyn has done on panel before he gained access to the matrix to justify the high ranking you've given him. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStormThat would be another instance where the item itself should be ranked in the hierarchy, instead of the actual character who had the item.
Merlyn is being highly overrated. He was only a major player when he had access to the matrix power, he no longer does, it isnt his inherent power but instead an outside source. Ranking Merlyn so high based on what he achieved when augmented by an external factor is like placing Thanos in the top 5 because of how he performed with the IG 🤨Show us what Merlyn has done on panel before he gained access to the matrix to justify the high ranking you've given him. 🙂
Then post some feats said character(s) may have accomplished with said item(s).
For instance,
Don't rank Thanos /w/ IG, but rather, just rank the IG itself.... Then you can throw in a few feats Thanos accomplished with the IG.
Seems like a simpler way to avoid confusion. 🙂
Originally posted by Galan007
That would be another instance where the item itself should be ranked in the hierarchy, instead of the actual character who had the item.Then post some feats said character(s) may have accomplished with said item(s).
For instance,
Don't rank Thanos /w/ IG, rather just rank the IG itself.... Then you can throw in a few feats Thanos accomplished with the IG.
Seems like a simpler way to avoid confusion. 🙂
Go Galan, youre killing em!!! 😱
I think YOU should make your own hierarchy thread. I know for certain you would be able to lay down scans and credible arguments to justify the positioning of every single character/power if that did happen. 🙂
Originally posted by GalacticStormI've though about doing an accurate DC hierarchy...
Go Galan, youre killing em!!! 😱I think YOU should make your own hierarchy thread. I know for certain you would be able to lay down scans and credible arguments to justify the positioning of every single character/power if that did happen. 🙂
But I know more about DC then I do Marvel, so a Marvel hierarchy thread by me wouldn't be as good/accurate as it could be.
srug
But thanks for the vote of confidence, lol.
Originally posted by Galan007
That would be another instance where the item itself should be ranked in the hierarchy, instead of the actual character who had the item.Then post some feats said character(s) may have accomplished with said item(s).
For instance,
Don't rank Thanos /w/ IG, but rather, just rank the IG itself.... Then you can throw in a few feats Thanos accomplished with the IG.
Seems like a simpler way to avoid confusion. 🙂
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTU
Should it also be Nexus of reality instead of Havoc,
The nexus is just a sort of focal point where all realities meet.... it's not really an item.
So in that instance, of course you'd label it as "Havok merged /w/ the nexus"
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUI don't know what you mean here. 😕
Excalibur + AoR instead of CB
Originally posted by Thanos_THOTUMy idea was to classify the item itself which gave said character immense power, then showcase a few feats said character accomplished with said item.
and the matrix instead of Merlyn.
It all depends on what Mr M wants to do.... It's his call in the long run. 🙂
Originally posted by King KandyWithout a user, the IG just sits there too.
I'm glad to have GS's imput right now... But I think we should rank Merlyn and Merlyn W/ Matrix as seperate spots, instead of giving the matrix it's own spot. After all, without Merlyn the Matrix just sits there.
But imo it deserves it's own spot, because of it's potential power.
Then you can post scans showing what this item can do with a user.
Just MO. 🙂
Originally posted by King Kandy
I'm glad to have GS's imput right now... But I think we should rank Merlyn and Merlyn W/ Matrix as seperate spots, instead of giving the matrix it's own spot. After all, without Merlyn the Matrix just sits there.
Cool. No issue with that. Its just good to see you're generally agreeing with Galans idea, which i think is a very good one.
How do you feel about the Chaos Wave?
Originally posted by Galan007
Without a user, the IG just sits there too.But imo it deserves it's own spot, because of it's potential power.
Then you can post scans showing what this item can do with a user.
Just MO. 🙂
Also true lol.
Either ways cool, i'm just glad people are now agreeing there needs to be distinction between things like Merlyn and the matrix and Wanda and the Chaos Wave. 😉
Originally posted by Galan007
Without a user, the IG just sits there too.But imo it deserves it's own spot, because of it's potential power.
Then you can post scans showing what this item can do with a user.
Just MO. 🙂
Aside from character comments, where on panel did Edifice Rex actually do something impressive?
If we were to merely go by character comments, Phoenix would be an omniversal threay and second only to the supreme being. The IG is the fragments of God and Professor Xavier could have singlehandedly ended the Secret Wars with a few mental suggestions. 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStorm'The Chaos Wave should have it's own entry... It's not something Wanda can do at will, it just happens.
Cool. No issue with that. Its just good to see you're generally agreeing with Galans idea, which i think is a very good one.How do you feel about the Chaos Wave?
Originally posted by Galan007
imo, no.The nexus is just a sort of focal point where all realities meet.... it's not really an item.
So in that instance, of course you'd label it as "Havok merged /w/ the nexus"
I don't know what you mean here. 😕
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
As for the True Beyonders, they may have made the Cosmic Cubes but that doesnt necessarily make them more powerful than them. We dont know the nature behind the process. For example a scientist and engineers can make weapons of mass destruction and warplanes, but do those same humans inherently possess as much destructive power as their creations? 😉Its all up in the air, theyre unproven.
Well LT himself said that he allow the power of infinite powerful beings to come into this world as the cosmic cubes harnessing but a fractions of there power so 😬
But how knows we have never seen the beyonders.
Originally posted by Galan007
For instance,Don't rank Thanos /w/ IG, but rather, just rank the IG itself....
Then you can throw in a few feats Thanos accomplished with the IG.
Seems like a simpler way to avoid confusion.
On the first page of this thread,
the IG and the UN and the CCU are all ranked as standalone powers.
I've never ranked Thanos w/IG.
Originally posted by King Kandy
'The Chaos Wave should have it's own entry...It's not something Wanda can do at will, it just happens.
The Chaos Wave will not have it's own entry.
The Chaos Wave is a direct application of Wanda's power.
She doesn't control it, but it IS HER Power that embodies the Wave.
Again,
it was only labelled the "Chaos Wave" by Roma because it resembled a Wave of destruction,
it was Chaos running rampant.
Wanda's power is CHAOS MAGIC. (Chaos Wave)
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Go Galan, youre killing em!!! 😱
dontgetit
"killing em"
Galan is just laying down some sound ideas, you think he's trying to dis me? 🤨
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
I think YOU should make your own hierarchy thread.I know for certain you would be able to lay down scans
and credible arguments to justify the positioning of every single character/power if that did happen.
This is why I don't want you in this thread.
You're a jerk off.
This condescending bull shit doesn't past me duke.
You'l continue to be ignored.