Wolverine's Foes versus Spiderman's Foes

Originally posted by masterbruce
"Omega Red is also an excellent hand-to-hand combatant and military tactician, having defeated foes such as Iron Man and Cable. He was trained in various forms of armed and unarmed combat by both the Soviet government and various organizations throughout the Japanese underworld."
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omega_Red

😐 ... you dare invoke the power of wikipedia?... shock

😂

I have one comic where they have fought (might be the only one... not sure) but Red definitely did not come out on top... and this was a while ago when Tony was using the crappy "modular" armour

Originally posted by masterbruce
don't you know? It's ALL PIS, ALL OF IT! Spiderman is a speedgod who couldn't get hit by 98% of his enemies if he didn't want them to. He only gets hit because Spidey likes pain, it makes his head clear up, so THAT is WHY he gets hit EVER.

Can't believe anyone would not know this. Only quicksilver could really hit spiderman in marvel.

You dont understand comics. If that statement was true, they'll make it so that spiderman would fight people at superspeed. Example; we all know that wolverine can cut threw anything and if wolverine fought someone that didnt have a healing factor the fight would be over, so thats why all of his enemies have healing factor. Like the hulk, we all know that if hulk fought someone without durability they would be out in one fpunch, so all of hulks enemies either have a healing factor or theyre indestructible. If that statement was true than majority of spiderman enemies would have superspeed (on quick silver level).

Originally posted by Scoobless
😐 ... you dare invoke the power of wikipedia?... shock

😂

I have one comic where they have fought (might be the only one... not sure) but Red definitely did not come out on top... and this was a while ago when Tony was using the crappy "modular" armour

Wikipedia is a great source of info, since it is updated by fans. I'm sure that nobody was lying to make Omega Red look good, i don't think he has many fanboys.

I don't doubt Iron Man can beat OR, but OR can also beat IM at times, so both are pretty powerful.

Originally posted by masterbruce
sure, you're welcome to create a list of what GG would carry. Just make sure it's part of his regular arsenal and not something he used once in a blue moon.

50 razor bats

goblin sparklers with powersource in costume

1 rocket built into glider

1 assortment of sharp pointy blades on glider

glider remote

i would throw in the goblin suprise but norman was the only one who used it

Originally posted by jmcnasty
You dont understand comics. If that statement was true, they'll make it so that spiderman would fight people at superspeed. Example; we all know that wolverine can cut threw anything and if wolverine fought someone that didnt have a healing factor the fight would be over, so thats why all of his enemies have healing factor. Like the hulk, we all know that if hulk fought someone without durability they would be out in one fpunch, so all of hulks enemies either have a healing factor or theyre indestructible. If that statement was true than majority of spiderman enemies would have superspeed (on quick silver level).

Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear in my post. I was being VERY SARCASTIC. Obviously spiderman gets hit because he isn't super fast like alot of ppl like to claim and he obviously can't maintain his superspeed or superagility throughout a battle.

Originally posted by lando005
30 bombs:
10 concussion
10 incinaray
10 ko gas

50 razor bats

goblin sparklers with powersource in costume

1 rocket built into glider

1 assortment of sharp pointy blades on glider

glider remote

i would throw in the goblin suprise but norman was the only one who used it

30 bombs!!!! 50 razor bats!!!! That seems to be more than his bag would hold 😕

I would give him more like 8-12 bombs and 15-20 razor bats.

Originally posted by masterbruce
30 bombs!!!! 50 razor bats!!!! That seems to be more than his bag would hold 😕

I would give him more like 8-12 bombs and 15-20 razor bats.

Originally posted by jmcnasty
If that statement was true than majority of spiderman enemies would have superspeed (on quick silver level).

They don't have QS level speed... but almost all of Spider-Man's main enemies do have superhuman speed

Originally posted by Metalmanx
It's not so much that we believe that Wolvie Squad will stand there.

It's that Spidey Squad's speed >>>>> Wolvie squad speed (basically). They will be able to attack much quicker and faster than the Wolvie team, and then also be able to evade their attacks easier with their superhuman speeds and reflexes. THAT'S why we're arguing like this. In terms of speed, some of these matches might as well be Spider-Man vs. a wheelchair-bound child.

Basically the reason why I have not talked about GG that much is that his weapons would also hurt his own teamamtes in fact more than his enemies.

Once again Wolverine's team is much more skilled and actually most are trained combatants so their teamwork as opossed to Spidey's would be alot better.

Venom in reality is the only really dangerous person on Spidey's team and Wolverine has already held Venom off before. I don't see where Carbon Copies of him couldn't at least hold him off while the rest of Venom's team is destroyed.

everyone else on Venom's team lack the durability to take the attacks from Wolverine's team as well as the weaponary to take down the Wolverine's team. Which is filled with HF factors and super strong armor.

Once again GG would more hurt his team then help because his bombs won't put down the other team but they could do some serious damage to his own.

With OR's death spores weakening everyboby's HF (with the possible exception of Venom) GG's bombs will take out anyone (except possibly Cyber) GG is a very good shot with his weapons (including the laser in his glove) coupled with the fact that his bombs don't have a massive blast radius = he wont be hitting his own team mates .... unless he wants to

Originally posted by Scoobless
With OR's death spores weakening everyboby's HF (with the possible exception of Venom) GG's bombs will take out anyone (except possibly Cyber) GG is a very good shot with his weapons (including the laser in his glove) coupled with the fact that his bombs don't have a massive blast radius = he wont be hitting his own team mates .... unless he wants to

OR can use his tendrils to attack at GG Lizard dies one on one against DS

That is of course if GG survives the Death spores how good is HF?

secondly that is one scenario OR doesn't even have to use them he can also just kill Doc Ock Normally. And then Rhino goes down. Lizard goes down.

I mean you have a Highly trained Squad of Killers with weapons that can cut through anything in a fight where teamwork matters more than overall power which by the way the other team really doesn't have that much and only so because of Venom.
Everyone else on their team can easily be killed or seriousy wounded by one hit. Most aren't even on the level Spiderman is in dodging or remotely close to it.

Venom AND Lizard are actually FASTER than Spider-man. Spider-Man's only advantages in that department is are spider-sense and his reflexes.

I thought spiderman's spider sense doesn't work against venom?

Originally posted by masterbruce
I thought spiderman's spider sense doesn't work against venom?

That's right, it doesn't. My bad, I wrote that incorrectly. I meant to say that Spidey's only advantages against Lizard are his spider-sense and reflexes. He just has to plain move as fast as possible to avoid any Venom hits.

if goblan plays it right he can down the whole w team he has enough gas bombs to put the whole team to sleep but seeing how this is harry i doubt he'll pull it off right

omega red wins the match for team 2

Originally posted by capt it up
omega red wins the match for team 2

What's Red gonna do to Venom?

Originally posted by Metalmanx
What's Red gonna do to Venom?

Originally posted by capt it up
lets see how about kill eddie? eddie dies venom skrewed. life drain will kill eddie or Ko him in matter of seconds.

Originally posted by lando005
will that work through the symbiote

That's exactly what I'm questioning. I mean, the symbiote for one, is an alien species that doesn't react the same way to things the way regular humans do. Two, it's highly durable.

There's a scan somewhere on KMC (I just don't remember where it is) where Venom is hit with some really high-grade poison and he just regurgates it like it's nothing. Not saying it will be exactly that way, but I feel it's safe to assume that poisons/pheremones/etc., won't have any effect on him.