November Elections

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So then these are all lies:

“The elephant in the newsroom is our narrowness. Too often, we wear liberalism on our sleeve and are intolerant of other lifestyles and opinions....We’re not very subtle about it at this paper: If you work here, you must be one of us. You must be liberal, progressive, a Democrat. I’ve been in communal gatherings in The Post, watching election returns, and have been flabbergasted to see my colleagues cheer unabashedly for the Democrats.”
Washington Post “Book World” editor Marie Arana in a contribution to the Post’s “daily in-house electronic critiques,” as quoted by Post media reporter Howard Kurtz in an October 3, 2005 article.

“There is, Hugh, I agree with you, a deep anti-military bias in the media. One that begins from the premise that the military must be lying, and that American projection of power around the world must be wrong. I think that that is a hangover from Vietnam, and I think it’s very dangerous. That’s different from the media doing it’s job of challenging the exercise of power without fear or favor.”
ABC News White House correspondent Terry Moran talking with Los Angeles-based national radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, May 17, 2005.

“I believe it is true that a significant chunk of the press believes that Democrats are incompetent but good-hearted, and Republicans are very efficient but evil.”
Wall Street Journal political editor John Harwood on the April 23, 2005 Inside Washington.

“I worked for the New York Times for 25 years. I could probably count on one hand, in the Washington bureau of the New York Times, people who would describe themselves as people of faith....I think one of the real built-in biases in the media is towards secularism....You want diversity in the newsroom, not because of some quota, but because you have to have diversity to cover the story well and cover all aspects of a society. And you don’t have religious people making the decisions about where coverage is focused. And I think that’s one of the faults.”
Former New York Times reporter Steve Roberts, now a journalism professor at George Washington University, on CNN’s Reliable Sources, March 27, 2005

(see Cap, there's one that was on CNN for you.)

“Personally, I have a great affection for CBS News....But I stopped watching it some time ago. The unremitting liberal orientation finally became too much for me. I still check in, but less and less frequently. I increasingly drift to NBC News and Fox and MSNBC.”
Former CBS News President Van Gordon Sauter in an op-ed published January 13, 2005 in the Los Angeles Times.

“Does anybody really think there wouldn’t have been more scrutiny if this [CBS’s bogus 60 Minutes National Guard story] had been about John Kerry?”
Former 60 Minutes Executive Producer Don Hewitt at a January 10, 2005 meeting at CBS News, as quoted later that day by Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball.

“I know a lot of you believe that most people in the news business are liberal. Let me tell you, I know a lot of them, and they were almost evenly divided this time. Half of them liked Senator Kerry; the other half hated President Bush.”
CBS’s Andy Rooney on the November 7, 2004 60 Minutes.

“There’s one other base here: the media. Let’s talk a little media bias here. The media, I think, wants Kerry to win. And I think they’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards — I’m talking about the establishment media, not Fox, but — they’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards as being young and dynamic and optimistic and all, there’s going to be this glow about them that some, is going to be worth, collectively, the two of them, that’s going to be worth maybe 15 points.”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas on Inside Washington, July 10, 2004.

And the follow up to that one:

The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz: “You’ve said on the program Inside Washington that because of the portrayal of Kerry and Edwards as ‘young and dynamic and optimistic,’ that that’s worth maybe 15 points.”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: “Stupid thing to say. It was completely wrong. But I do think that, I do think that the mainstream press, I’m not talking about the blogs and Rush and all that, but the mainstream press favors Kerry. I don’t think it’s worth 15 points. That was just a stupid thing to say.”
Kurtz: “Is it worth five points?”
Thomas: “Maybe, maybe.”
Exchange on CNN’s Reliable Sources, October 17, 2004.

(another one for cap, Newsweek's Thomas says that the media favored Kerry, and says it on CNN, no less.)

Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham: “The work of the evening, obviously, is to connect George W. Bush to the great war leaders of the modern era. You’re going to hear about Churchill projecting power against public opinion....”
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “But Iraq was a popular cause when he first started it. It wasn’t like Churchill speaking against the Nazis.”
Meacham: “That’s not the way the Republican Party sees it. They think that all of us and the New York Times are against them.”
Matthews: “Well, they’re right about the New York Times, and they may be right about all of us.”
Exchange shortly after 8:30pm EDT during MSNBC’s live convention coverage, August 30, 2004.

“Of course it is....These are the social issues: gay rights, gun control, abortion and environmental regulation, among others. And if you think The Times plays it down the middle on any of them, you’ve been reading the paper with your eyes closed.”
New York Times Public Editor Daniel Okrent in a July 25, 2004 column which appeared under a headline asking, “Is The New York Times a Liberal Newspaper?”

“Like every other institution, the Washington and political press corps operate with a good number of biases and predilections. They include, but are not limited to, a near-universal shared sense that liberal political positions on social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion, and religion are the default, while more conservative positions are ‘conservative positions.’...”
“The press, by and large, does not accept President Bush’s justifications for the Iraq war....It does not accept the proposition that the Bush tax cuts helped the economy....It remains fixated on the unemployment rate....The worldview of the dominant media can be seen in every frame of video and every print word choice that is currently being produced about the presidential race.”
From the February 10, 2004 edition of ABCNews.com’s “The Note,” a daily political memo assembled by ABC News political director Mark Halperin and his staff.

“Where I work at ABC, people say ‘conservative’ the way people say ‘child molester.’”
ABC 20/20 co-anchor John Stossel to CNSNews.com reporter Robert Bluey, in a story posted January 28, 2004.

“I thought he [former CBS News correspondent Bernard Goldberg] made some very good points. There is just no question that I, among others, have a liberal bias. I mean, I’m consistently liberal in my opinions. And I think some of the, I think Dan [Rather] is transparently liberal. Now, he may not like to hear me say that. I always agree with him, too, but I think he should be more careful.”
CBS’s 60 Minutes commentator Andy Rooney on Goldberg’s book, Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News, on CNN’s Larry King Live, June 5, 2002.

(another for Cap, Andy Rooney admitting him and Dan Rather have a liberal bias, on CNN once again.)

“Most of the time I really think responsible journalists, of which I hope I’m counted as one, leave our bias at the side of the table. Now it is true, historically in the media, it has been more of a liberal persuasion for many years. It has taken us a long time, too long in my view, to have vigorous conservative voices heard as widely in the media as they now are. And so I think yes, on occasion, there is a liberal instinct in the media which we need to keep our eye on, if you will.”
ABC anchor Peter Jennings appearing on CNN’s Larry King Live, April 10, 2002

That was the late Peter Jennings being very kind to fellow journalists, and also very diplomatic, but still admiting a history of liberalism in the media, and also cautioning that it still exists today and must be checked.

On CNN.

You guys may want to piss and moan about the website's purpose (which is obviously to prove a media bias) but you can't argue against what they've compiled.

Especially not when sources are quoted, by date and even hour in one case, as either seeing a liberal bias, or being guilty of having one.

The website aside, if you wish to disprove the claims of a liberal bias, and shutup the person raising the issue here (me), then you will have to provide proof that the above instances were either taken out of context, or completely fabricated.

Until then, I think the journalists have spoken well enough for themselves.

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Originally posted by sithsaber408
“There is, Hugh, I agree with you, a deep anti-military bias in the media. One that begins from the premise that the military must be lying, and that American projection of power around the world must be wrong. I think that that is a hangover from Vietnam, and I think it’s very dangerous. That’s different from the media doing it’s job of challenging the exercise of power without fear or favor.”
ABC News White House correspondent Terry Moran talking with Los Angeles-based national radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt, May 17, 2005.
Everyone was afraid of using military power for political reasons after Vietnam. And that's exactly what Iraq is. This doesn't prove a liberal bias at all

“I believe it is true that a significant chunk of the press believes that Democrats are incompetent but good-hearted, and Republicans are very efficient but evil.”
Wall Street Journal political editor John Harwood on the April 23, 2005 Inside Washington.
The editorial pages of the Wall Street Journal are unabashedly conservative

“I worked for the New York Times for 25 years. I could probably count on one hand, in the Washington bureau of the New York Times, people who would describe themselves as people of faith....I think one of the real built-in biases in the media is towards secularism....You want diversity in the newsroom, not because of some quota, but because you have to have diversity to cover the story well and cover all aspects of a society. And you don’t have religious people making the decisions about where coverage is focused. And I think that’s one of the faults.”
Former New York Times reporter Steve Roberts, now a journalism professor at George Washington University, on CNN’s Reliable Sources, March 27, 2005
again, this proves nothing

“Does anybody really think there wouldn’t have been more scrutiny if this [CBS’s bogus 60 Minutes National Guard story] had been about John Kerry?”
Former 60 Minutes Executive Producer Don Hewitt at a January 10, 2005 meeting at CBS News, as quoted later that day by Chris Matthews on MSNBC’s Hardball.
I'm assuming that this talking about Pres. Bush's lack of service in the Texas Air National Guard. Do you have any idea how heavily the Swiftboat Veterans thing was covered? It's is an outright lie

“I know a lot of you believe that most people in the news business are liberal. Let me tell you, I know a lot of them, and they were almost evenly divided this time. Half of them liked Senator Kerry; the other half hated President Bush.”
CBS’s Andy Rooney on the November 7, 2004 60 Minutes.
😆 this argues against a liberal bias! Are you even reading these quote before you post them? 😆

“There’s one other base here: the media. Let’s talk a little media bias here. The media, I think, wants Kerry to win. And I think they’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards — I’m talking about the establishment media, not Fox, but — they’re going to portray Kerry and Edwards as being young and dynamic and optimistic and all, there’s going to be this glow about them that some, is going to be worth, collectively, the two of them, that’s going to be worth maybe 15 points.”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas on Inside Washington, July 10, 2004.

The Washington Post’s Howard Kurtz: “You’ve said on the program Inside Washington that because of the portrayal of Kerry and Edwards as ‘young and dynamic and optimistic,’ that that’s worth maybe 15 points.”
Newsweek’s Evan Thomas: “Stupid thing to say. It was completely wrong. But I do think that, I do think that the mainstream press, I’m not talking about the blogs and Rush and all that, but the mainstream press favors Kerry. I don’t think it’s worth 15 points. That was just a stupid thing to say.”
Kurtz: “Is it worth five points?”
Thomas: “Maybe, maybe.”
Exchange on CNN’s Reliable Sources, October 17, 2004.

once again, this proves nothing Even if the media wants a Democrat to win, that is far from saying that they're going to let that show in their reporting.

Newsweek Editor Jon Meacham: “The work of the evening, obviously, is to connect George W. Bush to the great war leaders of the modern era. You’re going to hear about Churchill projecting power against public opinion....”
MSNBC’s Chris Matthews: “But Iraq was a popular cause when he first started it. It wasn’t like Churchill speaking against the Nazis.”
Meacham: “That’s not the way the Republican Party sees it. They think that all of us and the New York Times are against them.”
Matthews: “Well, they’re right about the New York Times, and they may be right about all of us.”
Exchange shortly after 8:30pm EDT during MSNBC’s live convention coverage, August 30, 2004.
Because Iraq was a very bad idea. Bush, if he's lucky, will only be portrayed the 2nd worst president we've ever had, after Nixon

“Of course it is....These are the social issues: gay rights, gun control, abortion and environmental regulation, among others. And if you think The Times plays it down the middle on any of them, you’ve been reading the paper with your eyes closed.”
New York Times Public Editor Daniel Okrent in a July 25, 2004 column which appeared under a headline asking, “Is The New York Times a Liberal Newspaper?”

“Like every other institution, the Washington and political press corps operate with a good number of biases and predilections. They include, but are not limited to, a near-universal shared sense that liberal political positions on social issues like gun control, homosexuality, abortion, and religion are the default, while more conservative positions are ‘conservative positions.’...”
“The press, by and large, does not accept President Bush’s justifications for the Iraq war....It does not accept the proposition that the Bush tax cuts helped the economy....It remains fixated on the unemployment rate....The worldview of the dominant media can be seen in every frame of video and every print word choice that is currently being produced about the presidential race.”
From the February 10, 2004 edition of ABCNews.com’s “The Note,” a daily political memo assembled by ABC News political director Mark Halperin and his staff.

the Pew Research Center, a nonpartisan research group, has proven that reporters are mostly socially liberal, but they are economically conservative.

[quote[“I thought he [former CBS News correspondent Bernard Goldberg] made some very good points. There is just no question that I, among others, have a liberal bias. I mean, I’m consistently liberal in my opinions. And I think some of the, I think Dan [Rather] is transparently liberal. Now, he may not like to hear me say that. I always agree with him, too, but I think he should be more careful.”
CBS’s 60 Minutes commentator Andy Rooney on Goldberg’s book, Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News, on CNN’s Larry King Live, June 5, 2002.

(another for Cap, Andy Rooney admitting him and Dan Rather have a liberal bias, on CNN once again.)[/quote]And reporters aren't allowed to have opinions?

You guys may want to piss and moan about the website's purpose (which is obviously to prove a media bias) but you can't argue against what they've compiled.

Especially not when sources are quoted, by date and even hour in one case, as either seeing a liberal bias, or being guilty of having one.

The website aside, if you wish to disprove the claims of a liberal bias, and shutup the person raising the issue here (me), then you will have to provide proof that the above instances were either taken out of context, or completely fabricated.

Until then, I think the journalists have spoken well enough for themselves.

😎

As I said several times already; yes, most people in the media are liberal. This does not prove a liberal bias. And people admitting that they're liberal is fine and dandy. But then we have people like Bill O'Reilly, who has a flagrant conservative bias, claim he's an independent.

Use nonpartisan groups if you're going to try and prove a liberal bias. (and by the way, all of the non-partisan groups have found no such thing)

Why post quotes for me? They don't change anything.

I assume you've been watching FOX news. If everyone one on the right is so confident in their victory, then why is FOX reporting that "The French want the Democrats to win!" GASP! What a stupid point to make. It's just like saying that "Terrorists want Democrats to win"

The French and Terrorists are the same thing in your mind?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
Why post quotes for me? They don't change anything.

I assume you've been watching FOX news. If everyone one on the right is so confident in their victory, then why is FOX reporting that "The French want the Democrats to win!" GASP! What a stupid point to make. It's just like saying that "Terrorists want Democrats to win"

The French and Terrorists are the same thing in your mind?

Osama actually endorsed Bush before the 2004 elections 😂

Originally posted by Strangelove
Osama actually endorsed Bush before the 2004 elections 😂

i don't know anything about that, but it wouldn't suprise me. He knows his family is in bed with Bush's and as long as Bush is in chrage, no one will come knocking on his cave's door.

osama is many things, but not stupid.
he knows that his very presense in the american public eye causes fear,
and any political figure knows that fear=control. why is it such an outlandish
conspiracy theory to point out the convenience in timing of his video release
days before election day 04?

Originally posted by Capt_Fantastic
i don't know anything about that, but it wouldn't suprise me. He knows his family is in bed with Bush's and as long as Bush is in chrage, no one will come knocking on his cave's door.
He didn't endorse him, per se, but he said that he'd rather Bush win because he was bringing more people to his cause

Originally posted by Strangelove
"Final" Predictions by The Crystal Ball

[b]Senate
Democrats +6: 51D 49R

Arizona: Sen. John Kyl will win reelection over Jim Pederson

Connecticut: Sen. Joe Lieberman will win reelection over Ned Lamont

Maryland: Ben Cardin will defeat Michael Steele

Michigan: Sen. Debbie Stabenow will win reelection over Mike Bouchard

Minnesota: Amy Klobuchar will defeat Mark Kennedy

Missouri: Claire McCaskill will unseat Sen. Jim Talent

Montana: Jon Tester will unseat Sen. Conrad Burns

Nebraska: Sen. Ben Nelson will win reelection over Pete Ricketts

New Jersey: Bob Menendez will defeat Tom Kean

Ohio: Sherrod Brown will unseat Se. Mike DeWine

Pennsylvania: Bob Casey will unseat Sen. Rick Santorum

Rhode Island: Sheldon Whitehouse will unseat Sen. Lincoln Chafee

Tennessee: Bob Corker will defeat Rep. Harold Ford

Virginia: Jim Webb will unseat Sen. George Allen

Washington: Sen. Maria Cantwell will win reelection over Mike McGavick

the other 18 races are either solid Democrat or Republican [/B]

Originally posted by Strangelove
[b]House
Democrats +27: 230D 205R
(the 25 races listed as 'toss-up'😉

AZ-05: Harry Mitchell will unseat Rep. J.D. Hayworth

CA-11: Rep. Richard Pombo will win reelection over Jerry McNerney

CO-04: Rep. Marilyn Musgrave will win reelection over Angie Paccione

CT-02: Joe Courtney will unseat Rep. Rob Simmons

CT-04: Diane Farrell will unseat Rep. Christopher Shays

CT-05: Chris Murphy will unseat Rep. Nancy Johnson

FL-16: Tim Mahoney will defeat Joe Negron

FL-22: Ron Klein will unseat Rep. Clay Shaw

IL-06: Tammy Duckworth will defeat Peter Roskam

IN-09: Baron Hill will unseat Rep. Mike Sodrel

KY-03: Rep. Anne Northup will win reelection over John Yarmuth

KY-04: Ken Lucas will unseat Rep. Geoff Davis

MN-06: Patty Wetterling will defeat Michele Bachmann

NH-02: Rep. Charlie Bass will win reelection over Paul Hodes

NM-01: Patricia Madrid will unseat Rep. Heather Wilson

NY-20 : Rep. John Sweeney will win reelection over Kirsten Gillibrand

NY-26: Jack Davis will unseat Rep. Tom Reynolds

OH-01: Rep. Steve Chabot will win reelection over John Cranley

OH-02 : Rep. Jean Schmidt will win reelection over Victoria Wulsin

OH-15: Mary Jo Kilroy will unseat Rep. Deborah Pryce

TX-22: Nick Lampson will defeat Shelly Sekula-Gibbs

PA-08: Rep. Mike Fitzpatrick will win reelection over Patrick Murphy

VA-02: Rep. Thelma Drake will win reelection over Phil Kellam

WA-08: Rep. Dave Reichert will win reelection over Darcy Burner

WI-08: Steve Kagen will defeat John Gard

Other Races "in play":
Likely Republican: 22 R
Lean Republican: 22 R
Lean Democrat: 9 R, 4 D
Likely Democrat: 3 R, 9 D [/B]

3 days left 🥷

2 Days left 🥷

a poll by the Washington Post suggests that Democrat's lead in opinion polls has lessened as of late, but as Sithsaber said, they're a poor representative of the general climate. 😄

presidents are already selected, they are not elected.

oppo-same's.

different faces, same policies. nothing changes. the end.

It doesn’t matter which party is in the White House or which one has a majority in Congress or the House of Commons, or any other parliament. It’s all a con, anyway. They are all of the same basic mentality, oppo-sames playing the game, a game which ignores who and what we really are and the solutions that come from, and only come from, that knowledge - i am me i am free

happy voting

blah blah blah

If you don't care, then leave us alone.

Originally posted by Deano
presidents are already selected, they are not elected.

oppo-same's.

different faces, same policies. nothing changes. the end.

happy voting

Way to be cynical, it's people like you that ruin the democratic process thumbsup

Originally posted by Deano
presidents are already selected, they are not elected.

I'd agree. Just not with the method you suppose.

Cynicism is good in healthy plausible doses. E.g. I don't think I'm being too cynical in noting the proximity of the Hussein verdict and the November midterms.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Cynicism is good in healthy plausible doses. E.g. I don't think I'm being too cynical in noting the proximity of the Hussein verdict and the November midterms.
of course, cynicism isn't bad, but too much cynicism is toxic

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VIDEO..

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/061106_hacking_democracy.html

The Voting Machine Documentary Diebold Didn't Want You to See

A must watch for American 'voters'

'How very telling it is that Diebold pressured HBO to cancel the airing of this documentary just days before tomorrow's midterm elections. Fortunately, subsidiary of mega-corporation Time Warner did not cave to the guilty psychology of the Diebold or other electronic voting companies pleading to hide just suspicion of the 'fallible' system behind our vote.'

Here's a pertinent article on the massive assault the Bush administration is attempting to assert on liberty:

http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1939773,00.html

Polling Tip #7: If you see Dick Cheny....RUN! He's hunting today.