Lucas is an idiot!

I tell you in a few years time there is going to be a rise in the appreciation of ROTJ.
Dont let the "ooh its full of Ewoks" haters sway you as i once did.
I enjoyed the build up to every PT movie and i enjoyed my trip to the cinema to see em where SW belongs...but there were far greater movies out for me the years they were released....and as a longtime SW fan that was hard to deal with......the betrayal!!!
I kidded myself that i enjoyed them out of some weird SW loyalty.
Much like i bought Be Here Now by Oasis because i liked the other 2 albums when i knew really it was a pile of sh!te.
Sithsabre408.....take out the few "awesome" bits of the PT and your left with nothing.
By awesome i guess you mean
The Podrace
Darth Maul vs anybody
The chase through Coruscant
The Arrival of the Clones on Geonosis
er....................

I SHOULD be putting down-
The opening scenes of the first SW pic
The Tusken Slaughter
The Battle Of Geonosis
The Battle Of Kashykk
The Slaughter of the Jedi
Palpatines reveal
Anakins turn to the Darkside
and
Vaders Back!!
But they were so botched i wont be bothering.

Yeah, I know what you mean.

Heres a nice anecdote: I watched all of them in sequence with my kids. And when theyd seen the whole PT we started on the OT. After seeing ANH my 8-year old said specifically: that was a very exciting story. Now, I found that striking since its slower than the PT and he'd seen all the ey candy of the PT, but he NEVER said anything about it being exciting. To me... that says a lot.

Maybe someday I'll respond to all these long posts.

Until then, lets crank up the Battle of the Heroes, play the ROTS xbox game, while eating cereal with the lightsaber spoon!

starwars !11ZOMG11StarWarZxx111!!

Seriously, how can anybody watch that little ewok baby get bright-eyed and then hide in fear at 3P0's sound effects, and talk shit about the prequels and Jar Jar with a straight face?

😂

Originally posted by sithsaber408
Seriously, how can anybody watch that little ewok baby get bright-eyed and then hide in fear at 3P0's sound effects, and talk shit about the prequels and Jar Jar with a straight face?

What are you trying to say?

Originally posted by Alliance
What are you trying to say?

That PT haters should look a little harder at the flaws of the OT and the triumphs of the PT before passing judgement.

ALL of the films are good.

Some are just better. 😛

Originally posted by sithsaber408
That PT haters should look a little harder at the flaws of the OT and the triumphs of the PT before passing judgement.

Ok 👆

Originally posted by sithsaber408
That PT haters should look a little harder at the flaws of the OT and the triumphs of the PT before passing judgement.

ALL of the films are good.

Some are just better. 😛

that argument can go both ways. Whatthe OT lacks in visual effects, it makes up for in story telling and characters. Im not saying the PT sucks, i just prefer the OT. Its what I grew up on and had less "kid humor" than the PT.

The OT lacks more than "visual effects" which, if you remember, were groundbreaking at the time.

well i dont know that its really fair to judge the visual effects as a flaw, we all know that the technology and the budget he was working on were very limited. i dont really seem them as a flaw because i like the old-fashion (film-wise) feel of the movies.

Originally posted by Alliance
The OT lacks more than "visual effects" which, if you remember, were groundbreaking at the time.

Well then by the same token it wouldnt be fair to compare the two trilogies in that area. What else does it lack besides nick gilliard and a couple hundred more lightsabers? Please keep in mind though that ROTS is my number 2, right behind ESB. So im not PT bashing.

You can compare them to storytelling, which, in the end, is the only thing that counts. Will the PT visuals stand the test of time in 10 years time??? Who knows... But we DO know that the OT stood the test of time, and that is not due to the effects.

As much as i love ILM and much of the effects work in the PT i think the Geonosis arena scene is full of dodgy CGI......Anakin and the REEK for example...woeful and will not stand the test of time.
The Rancor looks more realistic to me....but for every Rancor there is a Tauntaun straight out of a Harryhausen film(NOT that theres anything wrong with the great man).

Give me a bright eyed cowering baby Ewok over -
a) An Eopie farting
b) Boss Nass and his wobbly faced phleghm filled Bob Marley Strutting
c) Ben Quadinaros....well done Lucas for giving a humpty dumpty lookalike podrace loser the same name as one of the movies main heroes!....its not as if he aint no good at coming up with names is it... PADDY ACCU for example.
d) Kitster

I could go on but im starting to get the TPM feeling
Hey anyone else get the TPM feeling??
You know the feeling you got when you bought the TPM illustrated screenplay before the movie came out and thought someone had torn a few pages out.
The one where you thought someone had slipped LSD in your drinking chocalate as you read the Jar Jar and Boss Nass dialogue?
Yeah that one................its not a good place to be.

I realised whilst channel surfing the other week that one of the only moments in the prequels where i felt i was watching an SW pic is the bit where C3po and R2 leave the ship on Geonosis ..........that 10 sec clip was as Star Wars as it was gonna get.
Well that and the bit where the Emperor lands on Mustaphar and checks out Anakin.....that had me too.

Don't forget the jumping scenes of OB1 on Kamino and the HORRIBLE shaaks *shudder* - worse CGI ever IMHO.

I love that sequence 🙁 (Kamino) (Fett v Kenobi)

The swinging from the cable looks like sh!t...

Yeah, well I'm surprised it didn't sever his fingers when he stopped falling.

Ok whilst were on FX knocking
(Excuse me if this has been posted before) the lightsabre fights although a lot more acrobatic are let down by the CGI.
Palpatine doesnt mach up when hes fighting Mace.Its SO obvious its intercut with CG - the stuntman in a wig impersonating a female you used to get in TJ Hooker etc was far more convincing.
And lets not get started with the great Christopher Lees swordplay in 2 and 3.....a misjointed mess.
Sure Obi V Anakin was very good but let down by the whole river of lava set up.
What was wrong with fighting NEAR a volcano.......something a bit more subtle....we waited 25 years for THAT!!!
and as for Battle Of The Heroes..you know what i couldnt hum it...ive forgottten it.

BTW anyone see Christopher Lee on breakast tv this morning
hes got a cd out!