We don't even have to mention how credible Wikipedia is.. He's got no argument. First he says Battlemasters know all the forms which is clearly untrue. Then Kyle knows all the forms yet the NJO might not have had a single old form, so obviously Wikipedia is a shit source in this instance.
Battlemasters know the 6 traditional forms and the unorthodox forms and the rest of the techniques (save Vapaad/Juyo). Kyle does know all the NJO forms, thus he fits the description of BM.
Wookiepedia's sources for Lightsaber Forms:
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat - Star Wars Insider 62
Attack of the Clones Visual Dictionary, Lightsaber Combat (page 62)
Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Hero's Guide Web Enhancement - Lightsaber Forms and the Fallanassi
Originally posted by Prodigal Knight
Wookiepedia's sources for Lightsaber Forms:Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords
Fightsaber: Jedi Lightsaber Combat - Star Wars Insider 62
Attack of the Clones Visual Dictionary, Lightsaber Combat (page 62)
Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary
Dark Forces: Jedi Knight
Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
Hero's Guide Web Enhancement - Lightsaber Forms and the Fallanassi
Sources for Battlemaster article:
NONE.
Well here's what this website says about BM, though its not as accurate as Wookie.
SWRPGNETWORK
"""The Battlemaster was to be found wherever a powerful force for the dark side is harming innocents. Like all Jedi, the Battlemaster saw combat as a last resort, but unlike the others he was more prepared to do battle than others. Battlemasters made excellent military commanders, front-line soldiers, and special operations team members. Some Battlemasters were focused on brute force and head-on attack styles; others preferred more subtle maneuvering before making a surprise assault. The Battlemaster was calm and collected in combat, never letting his emotions override his rational thinking. Battlemasters attacked with precision and confidence, and always knew exactly when to fight, where, and when to stop. A Battlemaster did not seek out combat, but rather prepared themselves to be the best when it came time to take up arms in the defense of the light side.""""
Let's see. Count Dooku was a master of Makashi; he was the foremost lightsaber instructor of the Jedi Order. His apprentice was a user of Ataru - and he combated Yoda (another user of Ataru). He instructed Grievous in all forms of lightsaber combat.
Sorry. Logical deduction points to Dooku knowing all of the forms. That Cin Drallig and Yoda (who functioned as lightsaber instructors before) know these forms, and yet Dooku, miraculously, doesn't, is completely foolish.
Originally posted by Escape81
Let's see. Count Dooku was a master of Makashi; he was the foremost lightsaber instructor of the Jedi Order. His apprentice was a user of Ataru - and he combated Yoda (another user of Ataru). He instructed Grievous in all forms of lightsaber combat.Sorry. Logical deduction points to Dooku knowing all of the forms. That Cin Drallig and Yoda (who functioned as lightsaber instructors before) know these forms, and yet Dooku, miraculously, doesn't, is completely foolish.
He implanted Grevious with all forms, as pointed out by Adas earlier in this thread.
No, it actually doesn't. I'm a boxing instructor. Do I know how to fight like a heavyweight? No. I work with middleweights.
Originally posted by Escape81
Let's see. Count Dooku was a master of Makashi; he was the foremost lightsaber instructor of the Jedi Order. His apprentice was a user of Ataru - and he combated Yoda (another user of Ataru). He instructed Grievous in all forms of lightsaber combat.Sorry. Logical deduction points to Dooku knowing all of the forms. That Cin Drallig and Yoda (who functioned as lightsaber instructors before) know these forms, and yet Dooku, miraculously, doesn't, is completely foolish.
No logic DOESNT. He didn't know juyo and he CERTAINLY didn't know Vaapad. Logic points to him knowing a FEW forms at BEST.
Originally posted by Escape81
he was the foremost lightsaber instructor of the Jedi Order.
However there are other lightsaber instructors in the order, so it wouldn't be required for him to know all of the forms as the others could know the forms he didn't, and thus be able to teach the jedi.
His apprentice was a user of Ataru - and he combated Yoda (another user of Ataru).
Just because he was his master, that wouldn't mean he would have had to teach him his saber form, Jinn most likely learnt it from another lightsaber instructor. And since when does him doing well against another Ataru user indicate in any way that he may possibly know Ataru?
He instructed Grievous in all forms of lightsaber combat.
This is false, Grievous didn't know all 7 forms. All he did was program the forms into the magnaguards.
That Cin Drallig and Yoda (who functioned as lightsaber instructors before) know these forms, and yet Dooku, miraculously, doesn't, is completely foolish.
Since when do Cin Drallig and Yoda know all forms, source?