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Originally posted by Surreal_44
savvysparrow wrote:Well, I tend to disagree with the idea that Will is traditional, per se. Remember, he is of a much lower class than she. If she were truly a traditional gal, she'd have been just as happy, if not happier, to have been married to the commodore.
Choosing to leave Norrington for Will was maybe not a surprise to the audience, but it was a huge surprise for the characters in the movie.
One other note, is that Ted has mentioned that the Shadow part of Elizabeth played a huge role in DMC.
I assume the Shadow aspect of her is the pirate bit of her, but that does not mean that it is her true self or nature. She will need to reconcile all aspects of herself, but just because she can and does act like a pirate sometimes does not mean that she necessarily WANTS to be like a pirate.
Remember, she tasted what it was like to do something incredibly selfish, and based on her reaction to it, I'm not sure it's something she would want to indulge in all the time.
Actually, that's what I was trying to say, but you said it better 😉
I was saying that she needed to reconcile both sides of herself in order to be complete, like Jack does. But from my perspective, I don't think that Jack is an actual pirate. He's very close but the shadowy good self he tries to hide is more of who he is.
And in Elizabeth's perspective I think she is an actual pirate whose shining face of innocence hides her inner pirate.
So in that way, she and Jack balance each other out.
But anyway, I was just saying that even though she is a pirate, Elizabeth still has to reconcile with all the different parts of herself in order to achieve balance. And like you said, she may discover that she's not able to live the life of a true pirate because of what it means she has to sacrifice. Just like Jack discovered that he's not able to live the life of a pirate because of what he's had to sacrifice.
It's all about balance. And I didn't mean to impune Will's honor by implying that he's traditional.
**Edit** I just saw Savvy's post, so I don't want you all to think I was over-writing her fabulous post. I worked for twenty minutes on this post, and I'm far too lazy now to change it. But Savvy, that post of yours was great!***
The quote about the dress is this: ""Elizabeth is now free of the dress. Free of whatever constraints might have come from the dress. Like the corset in the first movie, it's all about what Elizabeth is wearing"
It's quite possible that it means that she's a pirate. Or it could just mean that she is no longer bound by the social constraints. That doesn't mean, however, that Will is by the wayside because of that.
Quite the contrary; remember, he donned more piratey clothes himself. I think that what the writers here are trying to say is that the break from high society has finally happened. It fractured a tiny bit in the first movie, and now both Will and Elizabeth have lost that last tiny fragment that is keeping them chained to Port Royal.
Gov. Swann lost his wig, the symbol of his power. So did Norrington. Everything these characters are wearing (or not) is symbolic in some way. Although, to be honest, Gov. Swann didn't have to have his wig removed to act quite piratey himself. 😄 I love that character. *sighs*
Also, I don't think that part of Elizabeth that is good and decent, with a moral compass, is dead and gone. I think it was lost to the Shadow aspect, and eventually she will come to terms with both sides of her personality. There is no 'death' of her character, but rather a unification, where Elizabeth will find out what her true self is.
Originally posted by katelovespirate
well i'm out for the night peoples. love and rum to all. try not to kill each other overnight. 😄
I'll try not to kill 😄 and cant have rum tonight I hvae uni calss tomorow 🙁 If im going this fukin sty in my eye is getting worse. I look like I just came from a fight.
Originally posted by Surreal_44
The quote about the dress is this: ""Elizabeth is now free of the dress. Free of whatever constraints might have come from the dress. Like the corset in the first movie, it's all about what Elizabeth is wearing"It's quite possible that it means that she's a pirate. Or it could just mean that she is no longer bound by the social constraints. That doesn't mean, however, that Will is by the wayside because of that.
anyway Me thinks we will see will change his clothes in movie 3..he becomes more piratey..