Thanos vs Superman

Started by h1a8399 pages

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Oh so then for these scans, it would be totally stupid for Gladiator to miss in the fourth panel with his heat vision. And it'd be totally stupid for Gladiator to allow Thor enough time to wind up Mjolnir to create a shield. Therefore, Gladiator gave Thor no split-second opportunity and did not telegraph his shot in any way. As such, Thor must have displayed FTL reflexes in jumping out of the way, and FTL reflexes in twirling his hammer? There's no if's, and's or but's about it; Thor could never have telegraphed both shots:

Or how about in these scans? Again, Count Nefaria would never be so stupid as to telegraph his attack and perhaps allow Thor an opportunity to anticipate his laser-vision a split-second before he fires it? This can only be evidence of FTL reflexes and absolutely nothing else (especially since Thor didn't just raise his hand, but initiated the complete twirling of his hammer):

Give me a break. You're arguing that it's god damn stupid for us to use scans like above for humans because there's a plausible alternative explanation that doesn't require you to utterly conclude FTL reflexes, i.e., telegraphing the shot. Yet, just because someone is more than human, you must conclude it cannot be any other explanation other than FTL reflexes. Get that sh1te outta here. If a scan utterly shows that someone is out of position after the shot is fired, then it is undeniable evidence of FTL reflexes. If it's ain't, then it ain't, no matter how much you want it to be for certain characters, i.e., Superman, and ignore it for other characters, i.e., Thor.

Thor does have light speed reflexes, so what? He's not human. Everything he said here is moot as my point is that it's plausible for any non human to have light speed reflexes.

No human has ever blocked or dodge a light speed attack after the fire. I dare you show a scan of a human doing it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not when someone ignores the evidence and continues to make things up.

Make things up? How am I making things up? What did I make up that wasn't shown or implied in comics?

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor does have light speed reflexes, so what? He's not human. Everything he said here is moot as my point is that it's plausible for any non human to have light speed reflexes.

No human has ever blocked or dodge a light speed attack after the fire. I dare you show a scan of a human doing it.

Wolverine has done it and he is a low meta. 😕

H1, I could have sworn you argued a while back saying that Thor is slow and he doesnt have light speed reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Make things up? How am I making things up? What did I make up that wasn't shown or implied in comics?

Everything about you is making sh** up.

Each and every last one of your post is ignoring comics and also ignoring the CIS rule.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor does have light speed reflexes, so what? He's not human. Everything he said here is moot as my point is that it's plausible for any non human to have light speed reflexes.

No human has ever blocked or dodge a light speed attack after the fire. I dare you show a scan of a human doing it.

Thor has FTL reflexes because there are scans which clearly indicate as such, where he reacts only after the light speed attack is initiated. Those scans with Gladiator and Count Nefaria are a dime-a-dozen with Thor, and are a dime-a-dozen with street level characters. The reason we don't automatically assume those dime-a-dozen feats are evidence of FTL reflexes is because there's a perfectly rational alternative explanation that doesn't require FTL reflexes, i.e., telegraphing.

Don't straw-man me. Just because someone's not human, doesn't automatically turn all those dime-a-dozen feats into undeniable FTL reflex feats. Just because someone's not human, doesn't automatically render telegraphing inapplicable.

Neither your scan, nor the scans above are scans of clear-cut FTL reflexes. Why? Because there's a perfectly rational alternative explanation, telegraphing. This doesn't preclude the scans from possibly being examples of FTL reflexes, but don't hold these dime-a-dozen feats out and expect us all to embrace them wholeheartedly through some artificial "he's not human" distinction. Especially with respect to characters whose capabilities are, at best, ambiguous, i.e., albino dude fighting Supes.

And ESPECIALLY when you post crap like this in a Thor vs Superman thread:

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor has never defended against a light speed attack from closer than 20ft without the aid of his enemy telegraphing the attack. Hell, he has never defended against one from close range.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
rofl
That's not me.
Originally posted by h1a8
Make things up? How am I making things up? What did I make up that wasn't shown or implied in comics?
You do it all the time.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
i'm not insinuating that his rights to post should be taken away cause i don't agree with him, it's just that he's seemingly trying to derail a third of the popular threads here with made up trash.

you share the same view as he does at the end of the day, but you don't (formulate sentences lol) spam made up shit, and i leave you alone absolutely amirite?

you make things too easy sometimes quan

That's not me though.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor does have light speed reflexes, so what? He's not human. Everything he said here is moot as my point is that it's plausible for any non human to have light speed reflexes.

No human has ever blocked or dodge a light speed attack after the fire. I dare you show a scan of a human doing it.

Wolverine

Blocking lasers with his hands:

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/?action=view&current=axm-017.jpg

Dodging lasers coming at him:

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/970/beamdodgeld7.jpg

Slapping beams out of the air that almost goes the speed of light.

http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1889/captang29.jpg

Dodging laser point blank.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1990/energydodge2.jpg

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5555/energydodge3.jpg

Comments on how easy it was dodging lasers.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/851/lasers.jpg

Dodging lightning.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2039/livinglighting.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6156/livinglighting2.png

So I guess Wolverine have FTL reflexes also.

Explain to me how Carver is helping either Thanos or Thor in this thread with a post like that...

Originally posted by Blanket
Explain to me how Carver is helping either Thanos or Thor in this thread with a post like that...
Carver to me is like Mr. X from re 2 being dropped out of a chopper. No one's safe.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Oh so then for these scans, it would be totally stupid for Gladiator to miss in the fourth panel with his heat vision. And it'd be totally stupid for Gladiator to allow Thor enough time to wind up Mjolnir to create a shield. Therefore, Gladiator gave Thor no split-second opportunity and did not telegraph his shot in any way. As such, Thor must have displayed FTL reflexes in jumping out of the way, and FTL reflexes in twirling his hammer? There's no if's, and's or but's about it; Thor could never have telegraphed both shots:

Or how about in these scans? Again, Count Nefaria would never be so stupid as to telegraph his attack and perhaps allow Thor an opportunity to anticipate his laser-vision a split-second before he fires it? This can only be evidence of FTL reflexes and absolutely nothing else (especially since Thor didn't just raise his hand, but initiated the complete twirling of his hammer):

Give me a break. You're arguing that it's god damn stupid for us to use scans like above for humans because there's a plausible alternative explanation that doesn't require you to utterly conclude FTL reflexes, i.e., telegraphing the shot. Yet, just because someone is more than human, you must conclude it cannot be any other explanation other than FTL reflexes. Get that sh1te outta here. If a scan utterly shows that someone is out of position after the shot is fired, then it is undeniable evidence of FTL reflexes. If it's ain't, then it ain't, no matter how much you want it to be for certain characters, i.e., Superman, and ignore it for other characters, i.e., Thor.

Then again, Batman has dodged heatvision from Titans of Tomorrow Superboy/man.

Originally posted by Philosophía
😂

^ Then again... what exactly?

Originally posted by Blanket
Explain to me how Carver is helping either Thanos or Thor in this thread with a post like that...

LOL, I put it up for a reason.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Carver to me is like Mr. X from re 2 being dropped out of a chopper. No one's safe.

LOL, good one.

Originally posted by carver9
LOL, I put it up for a reason.
To prove h1 wrong, which will directly go back to h1 downplaying a shit ton of Thor feats.

Originally posted by Blanket
To prove h1 wrong, which will directly go back to h1 downplaying a shit ton of Thor feats.

Damn, I didnt think about that.

Well, I put it up because the same argument is being used for Superman AND Thanos and I dont think any of them have the ability to combat at the speeds that is mentioned in this thread.

I think they have the speed to keep up with each other because they have similar showings but its pretty obvious that Thor and Thanos have the reflexes to tag Supes.

And its been shown ON-PANEL that Supes heat vision isnt even close to the speed of light so comparing him to his heat vision is still faulty logic.

Sorry about the scans though, I did fall into H1 trap but he still dont have anything proving that Supes could fight at the speed that he is saying either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Not when someone ignores the evidence and continues to make things up.

😑

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't straw-man me. Just because someone's not human, doesn't automatically turn all those dime-a-dozen feats into undeniable FTL reflex feats. Just because someone's not human, doesn't automatically render telegraphing inapplicable.

He agreed to this on page 29:
Originally posted by Enyalus
H1's argument amounts to: Superman's HV can never possibly miss unless the person he's fighting has FTL reflexes. Anyone who's read more than 10 Superman comics knows how false and insane that opinion is.

There's nothing that can be done when someone holds absurd concepts like these. At least, I can't think of anything.