Thanos vs Superman

^ Proven. Now be quiet about your lack of knowledge about Cyclops:

Originally posted by h1a8
Cyclops raises his hand to his visor to fire. That's like pointing and shooting. Plus his beams aren't light speed.

Are you saying Thor doesn't have light speed reflexes from 10ft away or more?

Batman and his protege dodged before the fire (not after). Dodging before the fire and blocking a beam with a small target (the hand) after the fire is two different things.

I just proved that there was no telegraph in my scan. You just didn't understand the proof.

Lastly, u r using "telegraphed" wrong. The person who initiates the attack is the telegrapher. The defender is not.

I'm saying Superman's foe in your scan doesn't have FTL reflexes just from that scan alone because the more reasonable explanation is that Superman telegraphed the shot and his foe aim blocked. Like many other characters with unproven superspeed can do.

No kidding. Just like Superman's foe. Dodging your body completely out of the way requires far more movement (and thus greater requisite speed) than moving your hand does. And Superman telegraphed.

No. You just ignored that all sorts of characters have telegraphed their eyebeam attacks. You just didn't understand how you're inane math and favorite scan just got deconstructed through your own logic, i.e., "He telegraphed." "He aim dodged." "He aim-blocked." Over and over again. For everybody except for Superman and any chaacter associated with him. Sickening.

Fair point and adjusted so you understand clearly. Superman's foe aim blocked and Superman telegraphed his eyebeam attack.

Originally posted by h1a8
Cyclops raises his hand to his visor to fire. That's like pointing and shooting. Plus his beams aren't light speed.

Are you saying Thor doesn't have light speed reflexes from 10ft away or more?

Batman and his protege dodged before the fire (not after). Dodging before the fire and blocking a beam with a small target (the hand) after the fire is two different things.

I just proved that there was no telegraph in my scan. You just didn't understand the proof.

Lastly, u r using "telegraphed" wrong. The person who initiates the attack is the telegrapher. The defender is not.

The sad thing is you are the only one arguing this crap, everyone else is arguing against you.

Another sad thing is that you dont know what race I am talking about and you suppose to be this Superman expert. Believe it or not but flash was running at 2000 mps and outraced Superman heat vision. Its pointless to show you a scan because everytime someone put anything up you call it PIS because you dont like it.

Maybe onedumb or someone that get the thrill of making you look even worse than what everyone on the forum thinks of you might put it up but I'm not wasting my time.

By the way, Cyclops blast is fast as light speed and Wolverine waded through them like nothing.

My scan holds more weight than your scan that you are adding sh** to.

Thanos will not lose to Superman at all, Thanos is too damn versatile. Thanos has the strength to match Superman and surpass him, Thanos has TK, TP, Psionic, Mystic Powers, Power of Cosmic, can amp abilities at at will, advance technology, Vast Super intelligences. I mean really what Superman is going to do too Thanos besides cry hsi a$$ off, Thanos is superior to Superman in every way.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Proven. Now be quiet about your lack of knowledge about Cyclops:

Yeah. The beams are. Read the scan.

I'm saying Superman's foe in your scan doesn't have FTL reflexes just from that scan alone because the more reasonable explanation is that Superman telegraphed the shot and his foe aim blocked. Like many other characters with unproven superspeed can do.

No kidding. Just like Superman's foe. Dodging your body completely out of the way requires far more movement (and thus greater requisite speed) than moving your hand does. And Superman telegraphed.

No. You just ignored that all sorts of characters have telegraphed their eyebeam attacks. You just didn't understand how you're inane math and favorite scan just got deconstructed through your own logic, i.e., "He telegraphed." "He aim dodged." "He aim-blocked." Over and over again. For everybody except for Superman and any chaacter associated with him. Sickening.

Fair point and adjusted so you understand clearly. Superman's foe aim blocked and Superman telegraphed his eyebeam attack.

OWNED

So...we all agree that Thanos wins this, right? I've already proven Thanos has the reflexes to block light speed beams from a few meters away. Even backhanding them out of the air, which takes far more movement than raising a hand.

Cool.

That energy didn't look like it moved at lightspeed, so you lose and h1a8 wins.

Originally posted by Enyalus
So...we all agree that Thanos wins this, right? I've already proven Thanos has the reflexes to block light speed beams from a few meters away. Even backhanding them out of the air, which takes far more movement than raising a hand.

Cool.

Everyone already agreed that Thanos wins this, majority even said 10/10. Its only a few, like 3 or 4 that disagrees and I dont even need to name who it is.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Proven. Now be quiet about your lack of knowledge about Cyclops:

Yeah. The beams are. Read the scan.

I'm saying Superman's foe in your scan doesn't have FTL reflexes just from that scan alone because the more reasonable explanation is that Superman telegraphed the shot and his foe aim blocked. Like many other characters with unproven superspeed can do.

No kidding. Just like Superman's foe. Dodging your body completely out of the way requires far more movement (and thus greater requisite speed) than moving your hand does. And Superman telegraphed.

No. You just ignored that all sorts of characters have telegraphed their eyebeam attacks. You just didn't understand how you're inane math and favorite scan just got deconstructed through your own logic, i.e., "He telegraphed." "He aim dodged." "He aim-blocked." Over and over again. For everybody except for Superman and any chaacter associated with him. Sickening.

Fair point and adjusted so you understand clearly. Superman's foe aim blocked and Superman telegraphed his eyebeam attack.

Well done! But still my position is that it's impossible (in reality) to telegraph a light speed eye beam attack (for blocking it with a small area) due to the fact that the victim doesn't know exactly when you would release it. As for Thor u r right. When someone's eyes are glowing Thor can just start swinging his hammer in anticipation. But this would be different if Thor blocked it with the hammer head only (not swinging it). For that would mean Thor truly reacted after the fire and not before.

As far as Wolverine swiping the beam, I would either say bad writing or that writer didn't take Cyclops beam as light speed. Because Logan moved his arm nearly the same distance that the beam traveled in the same time frame. This means Logan swiped his arm at light speed. I guess that is why we have the PIS rule and such. Now Dude who blocked Superman's HV doesn't have a history of appearances like Logan does to say whether he should not have done that. From only this appearance I would say what u see is the truth.

But let me get this straight so that I'm clear with you. Which one are you saying:

1. Superman telegraphed as to why Dude was able to block.

2. Light speed beams sometimes job to lesser characters (PIS really) thus proving that not always a character blocking or dodging a light speed attack after the fire proves that they have light speed reflexes.

Originally posted by h1a8
Please read the entire post before responding.

Well done! But still my position is that it's impossible (in reality) to telegraph a light speed eye beam attack (for blocking it with a small area) due to the fact that the victim doesn't know exactly when you would release it. As for Thor u r right. When someone's eyes are glowing Thor can just start swinging his hammer in anticipation. But this would be different if Thor blocked it with the hammer head only (not swinging it). For that would mean Thor truly reacted after the fire and not before.

As far as Wolverine swiping the beam, I would either say bad writing or that writer didn't take Cyclops beam as light speed. Because Logan moved his arm nearly the same distance that the beam traveled in the same time frame. This means Logan swiped his arm at light speed. I guess that is why we have the PIS rule and such. Now Dude who blocked Superman's HV doesn't have a history of appearances like Logan does to say whether he should not have done that. From only this appearance I would say what u see is the truth.

But let me get this straight so that I'm clear with you. Which one are you saying:

1. Superman telegraphed as to why Dude was able to block.

2. Light speed beams sometimes job to lesser characters (PIS really) thus proving that not always a character blocking or dodging a light speed attack after the fire proves that they have light speed reflexes.

Thats not the only time Wolverine slapped beams out of the air so why would it be PIS on Wolvy part but not on the scan you presented?

OneDumb owned you, just accept it and move on.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thanos will not lose to Superman at all, Thanos is too damn versatile. Thanos has the strength to match Superman and surpass him, Thanos has TK, TP, Psionic, Mystic Powers, Power of Cosmic, can amp abilities at at will, advance technology, Vast Super intelligences. I mean really what Superman is going to do too Thanos besides cry hsi a$$ off, Thanos is superior to Superman in every way.

Thanos is not superior in speed, strength, fighting ability, and blunt force durability.

Even if u argue the latter three, it would be a waste of time as it is irrelevant. Why? Because speed is the trump card for Superman here.

Superman will pop Thanos before Thanos can act and form a combo to ko.

Also Superman has the speed to avoid any of Thanos attacks. He can also crumble Thanos shields with constant bombardment.

Originally posted by Mindset
h1a8 wins.

I hope you feel like shit.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos is not superior in speed, strength, fighting ability, and blunt force durability.

Even if u argue the latter three, it would be a waste of time as it is irrelevant. Why? Because speed is the trump card for Superman here.

Superman will pop Thanos before Thanos can act and form a combo to ko.

Also Superman has the speed to avoid any of Thanos attacks. He can also crumble Thanos shields with constant bombardment.

Now I would like for you to show us Superman beating someone on Thanos level physically.

We proved to you that Thanos can and have one shotted High heralds easily now its time for you to prove to us that Superman can take on an defeat someone like Thanos with just punches and speed.

We will be waiting.

Originally posted by carver9
Thats not the only time Wolverine slapped beams out of the air so why would it be PIS on Wolvy part but not on the scan you presented?

OneDumb owned you, just accept it and move on.

He didn't own me. I asked for proof and he gave it.

Logan only did this once my friend. And I think that wasn't canon either.

PIS has nothing to do with someone performing a feat more than once. PIS is defined as going against not only common sense but the ENTIRE history of a character. For Logan to move him arms the same distance a beam of light can travel in the same time frame means that Logan can move at light speed. This is clearly false and must be regarded as PIS.

Originally posted by carver9
Now I would like for you to show us Superman beating someone on Thanos level physically.

We proved to you that Thanos can and have one shotted High heralds easily now its time for you to prove to us that Superman can take on an defeat someone like Thanos with just punches and speed.

We will be waiting.

You are begging the question. You are assuming Thanos is at a such level when it has to be proven. Darkseid is physically superior to Thanos and Superman has beat on him. How's that?

Ever heard of the combo to ko principle?

Originally posted by h1a8
He didn't own me. I asked for proof and he gave it.

Logan only did this once my friend. And I think that wasn't canon either.

PIS has nothing to do with someone performing a feat more than once. PIS is defined as going against not only common sense but the ENTIRE history of a character. For Logan to move him arms the same distance a beam of light can travel in the same time frame means that Logan can move at light speed. This is clearly false and must be regarded as PIS.

h1 this is a serious question, where do you get your info?

Why do you do that? Why do you say things that you dont know about?

Why are you saying Wolverine only did it once when you truly dont know?

Why do you beg to get owned?

Why are you saying the scans isnt cannon? How do you know if its cannon or not when you didnt even know about it?

Again, this isnt the first time Wolverine knocked beams out of the air.

Originally posted by h1a8
You are begging the question. You are assuming Thanos is at a such level when it has to be proven. Darkseid is physically superior to Thanos and Superman has beat on him. How's that?

Ever heard of the combo to ko principle?

Darkseid has been beaten by a high herald, show us Thanos being beaten by a High Herald.

Darkseid isnt on Thanos level and there is so many things proving this.

Now Supes did fight people that was close to Thanos level like Despero and Titus and we seen how that turned out.

Again, show us someone that Supes beat on Thanos level because Darkseids been punked too many times.

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid has been beaten by a high herald, show us Thanos being beaten by a High Herald.

Originally posted by carver9
h1 this is a serious question, where do you get your info?

Why do you do that? Why do you say things that you dont know about?

Why are you saying Wolverine only did it once when you truly dont know?

Why do you beg to get owned?

Why are you saying the scans isnt cannon? How do you know if its cannon or not when you didnt even know about it?

Again, this isnt the first time Wolverine knocked beams out of the air.

Because people lie. This isn't the first time I caught someone in a lie.
I say it isn't canon because the way the art is shown. I've seen a lot of Wolverine and X-men comics yet don't recall the art of that comic as being part of the main series.

I've been here a long time and seen many respect threads, argued with diehard Wolverine fans for years. Not once have i've seen another scan where Logan swipes a light speed beam outta the air. P.S. I've seen the cyclops scan long before today. That is why I quoted it before it was ever shown on this thread.

Originally posted by h1a8
Because people lie. This isn't the first time I caught someone in a lie.
I say it isn't canon because the way the art is shown. I've seen a lot of Wolverine and X-men comics yet don't recall the art of that comic as being part of the main series.

I've been here a long time and seen many respect threads, argued with diehard Wolverine fans for years. Not once have i've seen another scan where Logan swipes a light speed beam outta the air. P.S. I've seen the cyclops scan long before today. That is why I quoted it before it was ever shown on this thread.

Lightning goes 93000 mps, Wolverine jumps over it before it even touch him.

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/2039/livinglighting.png

Someone shoot lasers at Wolverine, Wolverine lifts his hands and stop them with his claws.

http://s233.photobucket.com/albums/ee113/wolverinerespectthread/?action=view&current=axm-017.jpg

Originally posted by carver9
Darkseid has been beaten by a high herald, show us Thanos being beaten by a High Herald.

Darkseid isnt on Thanos level and there is so many things proving this.

Now Supes did fight people that was close to Thanos level like Despero and Titus and we seen how that turned out.

Again, show us someone that Supes beat on Thanos level because Darkseids been punked too many times.

The problem here is that you thing Superman, Thor, SS, etc. are on the same level physical wise. If that was true then u would have a point. I view Superman as astronomically more physical than those guys. Thus I view Superman as far above Thanos too in the physical sense.