Thanos vs Superman

Originally posted by King Kandy
But he saw SS, meaning that with his regular perception it was enough, since his ability to see things was not enhanced at all.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is this another one of those times you are ignoring the words in a comic and forming your own opinion.

Originally posted by Slaanesh
h1a8 won't do something like creating a sock account..he is the best debater and mathematician in this forum..

I hope you're being sarcastic.....! -_-

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Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And he could have easily taken advantage of amped reflexes as the Infinity Gauntlet can grant you as such. Acting like a speed amp = increased cosmic senses is absurd.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
And he could have easily taken advantage of amped reflexes as the Infinity Gauntlet can grant you as such. Acting like a speed amp = increased cosmic senses is absurd. Try not to project yourself onto others. It evinces a wretched yearning for attention.

^ It bent over backwards to demonstrate that Thanos was testing his wits and battle-savvy. Not his reflexes.

Originally posted by King Kandy
No, it's really not... if your increased speed gives you increased powers of perception, then it would NOT exist under the conditions Thanos subjected himself to. In addition, if his speed was increased to lightspeed+ like you are suggesting, the heroes would not have been the same speed as him like they were portrayed in that issue.

Using the fact that Thanos wasn't speed amped at all times as being dispositive of him making use of it in that instance is dishonest. You can't divorce a single thing Thanos did in that fight. He possessed the friggin Infinity Gauntlet. This isn't that hard.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ It bent over backwards to demonstrate that Thanos was testing his wits and battle-savvy. Not his reflexes. It is absurd. Flash amping up people's speed doesn't increase their cosmic senses. Don't straw-man me. Thanos gave himself whatever amps and powers he wanted at different times during the fight. There were times when he grew in size (but he wasn't huge the entire fight), there were times when people touched him and were near destroyed by backlash (but that didn't happen to every hero).

Using the fact that Thanos wasn't speed amped at all times as being dispositive of him making use of it in that instance is dishonest. You can't divorce a single thing Thanos did in that fight. He possessed the friggin Infinity Gauntlet. This isn't that hard.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, his battle savy which specifically mentioned turning down his abilities so he'd be reacting at his pace not the ig's.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
He tuned down his cosmic senses. He never restricted himself from any possible speed amps. "He's dampened his cosmic senses!" =/= "He's testing his own reflexes!" Him testing his own reflexes by having Surfer miss in that fight to impress Death is about as absurd as suggesting he was testing his own strength when destroying Cap's shield to impress Death.

Originally posted by Allankles
DS has more power than Thanos (more potent godly powers), which makes his losses to Supes in Apokolips Now and Batman/Superman look a little suspect.

Although the Apokolips Now fight looks like Desaad disguised as DS because of how it ends - how does a guy with rock-like flesh get swellings? The same rock like flesh that Lobo could hurt his fists on? His body is not supposed to have that kind of reaction, it's granite-like, granite can't swell. It's like seeing Colossus swelling.

Before that it looks quite genuine with respect to Supes speed (dodging the Omega Beams) and apparent increase in strength.

The only area Thanos has DS beat, is defensive shields. I've only seen one story where DS had any personal shields around himself.

Allan sometimes you assessment are pretty good but have areas which are totally off. For example.. the only area Thanos has DS beat in, is defensive shielding? This is a joke right? Thanos has DS beat in Durability (by a lot), Strength, striking power, h2h combat abilities just to name some. I would also include intelligence, TK and TP, along with matter and energy manipulation. So where on God's green earth you get Thanos only has DS beat in shieding is beyond me.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He said he will retain liitless power yet not be able to see their next movements. When exactly did you think the writer was trying to show us he was operating at amped speeds? I mean wow you continue to make stuff up. Was Thanos operating at increased speeds when Spiderman jumped into him or tapping into the ig increased cosmic senses then?

And you seize upon Spiderman kicking Thanos in the face as if I hadn't already deconstructed that faulty notion:

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Don't straw-man me. Thanos gave himself whatever amps and powers he wanted at different times during the fight. There were times when he grew in size (but he wasn't huge the entire fight), there were times when people touched him and were near destroyed by backlash (but that didn't happen to every hero).

Using the fact that Thanos wasn't speed amped at all times as being dispositive of him making use of it in that instance is dishonest. You can't divorce a single thing Thanos did in that fight. He possessed the friggin Infinity Gauntlet. This isn't that hard.

Any shred of proof at all that his reflexes were amped. ANY? You can claim the IG can speed up your reflexes.. cool it can.. and nobody is arguing that point. The question is DID that happen in the IG as you're claiming. If so provide some proof of this.. When he used other gems throughout the fight it was made clear he was using the reality gem, power gem etc etc. If his reflexes or speed was increased why was this never shown or depicted on panel. We never saw THanos moving any faster than he normally does. Ever. In fact, you're trying to say in that one instant he used his amped reflexes to avoid an attack.. yet in all other situations.. showed no signs of an increase speed or reflexes and was getting hit by people who never would hit him if he was amped. Therefore, all you are doing is trying to pass off your speculation without any proof what so ever. In fact, the proof is on the side of not seeing a damn thing ever stated, shown nor implied that he had an amp to his reflexes.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
It's something called the Infinity Gauntlet. Trying to divorce anything he did in that storyline from the Infinity Gauntlet's omnipotent power is like trying to pick and choose feats that Parallax performed in Zero Hour and yelling, "Look! Hal Jordan did that! Nothing to do with Parallax's power!"

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
Using the fact that Thanos wasn't speed amped at all times as being dispositive of him making use of it in that instance is dishonest. You can't divorce a single thing Thanos did in that fight. He possessed the friggin Infinity Gauntlet. This isn't that hard.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Any shred of proof at all that his reflexes were amped. ANY? You can claim the IG can speed up your reflexes.. cool it can.. and nobody is arguing that point. The question is DID that happen in the IG as you're claiming. If so provide some proof of this.. When he used other gems throughout the fight it was made clear he was using the reality gem, power gem etc etc. If his reflexes or speed was increased why was this never shown or depicted on panel. We never saw THanos moving any faster than he normally does. Ever. In fact, you're trying to say in that one instant he used his amped reflexes to avoid an attack.. yet in all other situations.. showed no signs of an increase speed or reflexes and was getting hit by people who never would hit him if he was amped. Therefore, all you are doing is trying to pass off your speculation without any proof what so ever. In fact, the proof is on the side of not seeing a damn thing ever stated, shown nor implied that he had an amp to his reflexes.

^ Bashing your head against the wall and ignoring that Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't make it reasonable to separate out what you want and act like the IG had nothing to do with it at all. You essentially are advancing the same arguments you and others ridiculed concerning Darkseid's feats in Final Crisis. The rationale reeks of phail and you know it.

Thanos has other feats. Advancing nonsensical rationalizations to add just one more doesnt change the game, nor does dismissing it through logic change the game either.

Originally posted by The Nuul
But if some has said nothing else but "Superman stomps" for the 100th time in the same thread or for the last 15 pages or so.

Thats debating?

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Originally posted by abstracter
OH shut da f^ck up already you make my balls itch

Originally posted by Omega Vision
Actually i have crabs. 💃

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
^ Bashing your head against the wall and ignoring that Thanos had the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't make it reasonable to separate out what you want and act like the IG had nothing to do with it at all. You essentially are advancing the same arguments you and others ridiculed concerning Darkseid's feats in Final Crisis. The rationale reeks of phail and you know it.

Thanos has other feats. Advancing nonsensical rationalizations to add just one more doesnt change the game, nor does dismissing it through logic change the game either.

So you said all this and don't have anything stated, implied or shown that his speed or reflexes were amped in anyway? We see other abilities amped through other gems... yet nothing was shown in that area.. and I'm the one being nonsensical? As I said, nobody is denying his reflexes and speed could be enhanced by the IG.. the burden is on you to prove that it was being amped as it was never shown, stated nor implied. So all you're doing is speculating.

^ Don't play the burden of proof game if you don't understand the rules.

Only if all things were considered equal, i.e., no plot device powerup like the IG, would I have to affirmatively prove that some outside source was responsible for a character accomplishing a feat. As it stands, the very presence of the IG establishes a presumption that he was amped, because he could amp himself in a variety of ways and, in fact, did amp himself in a variety of different ways. And at that moment he had the IG. This presumption is established and as such, all things are not considered equal anymore.

Accordingly, that presumption puts the onus on you to prove he would never use the amp to increase his reflexes, despite having amped his physicality at different times, in different ways, in reaction to different obstacles AND despite you agreeing that he would have no problem doing so.

This is the same backwards reasoning we argued against with Darkseid in Final Crisis and that I've had to argue with Kyle while he was tapping the Ion Power in Our Worlds at War and that I've had to argue with Thor fans concerning Thor and the Odinpower. It's the same ridiculous attempt to divorce amp from feat. I could care less about your motivations for doing so, it's still the same attenuated garbage rationalizing.