Originally posted by OneDumbG0When was it alluded to his reflexes were amped? the entire comic makes it plain as day he's fighting like he normally does and barely moves in time to avoid the Surfer. If his reflexes were amped then when was this alluded to?
^ He turned off any power to know his enemy's next move. You're twisting the very plain meaning of a simple English sentence again. Reeks of desperation. And you once again tried to straw-man me. Flash can amp his reflexes, still doesn't give him the ability to know his opponent's next move before it happens. The fact that you cannot admit that simple truth and continually troll and straw-man me and pretend as if your entire argument hasn't been destroyed is pathetic. Simply pathetic, wow.On-panel proof happens when Surfer whizzes by.
You keep saying the ig amps reflexes so prove it. You make the claim so please show me where he did so.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So when did you know his reflexes were amped then?
^ You keep assuming Thanos ducked Surfer. He didn't. There's no way you can recast Thanos raising his head up and around to see Surfer whizz by as if it's Thanos ducking his head down before Surfer gets there.
So you are saying he just missed?
Originally posted by Blanket
So... Thanos is faster than Superman because he's more powerful?
You having more power than another doesn't mean you will be faster than them. This is because your constant of proportionality from power to speed may be smaller than someone else's due to various factors. But having more power than you once had means that you will be faster than you once were. Do you understand?
Also Thanos is not more powerful. He may have more variation but is not more powerful, as in have more power.
Power can be strength, speed, etc. Thanos had the IG which not only increases his strength (power gem) but his hand speed too (time gem). Together they both add speed and make him move much more faster than normal. Why is Hulk faster than a human? Because he has more power right?
Originally posted by quanchi112When he looked and saw Surfer before he was long gone. Then again, like psycho gundam pointed out, it's very arguable that Cap managed to cock his fist back for a left-cross in that same time frame.
So when did you know his reflexes were amped then?So you are saying he just missed?
Yes. Uber Surfer-phail.
Originally posted by h1a8That's not true at all, and is based on nothing.
You having more power than another doesn't mean you will be faster than them. This is because your constant of proportionality from power to speed may be smaller than someone else's due to various factors. But having more power than you once had means that you will be faster than you once were. Do you understand?Also Thanos is not more powerful. He may have more variation but is not more powerful, as in have more power.
Power can be strength, speed, etc. Thanos had the IG which not only increases his strength (power gem) but his hand speed too (time gem). Together they both add speed and make him move much more faster than normal. Why is Hulk faster than a human? Because he has more power right?
Yes he is.
The time gem doesn't increase your hand speed... another made up 'fact'.
Because Hulk is a comic book character
Originally posted by BlanketIt is based off common sense. If you hit harder that means the product of your mass and velocity is greater.
That's not true at all, and is based on nothing.
No he isn't. Having more powers doesn't mean you are more powerful. Superman is much stronger, thus proving that Thanos isn't more powerful.
Yes he is.
Yes it does. You saying it doesn't is dumb by you. The time gem and slow time (speed you up), speed time (slow you down), etc.The time gem doesn't increase your hand speed... another made up 'fact'.
No, because he is stronger. Bruce banner is a comic book character and is not faster than the other humans in comics.
Because Hulk is a comic book character
Originally posted by h1a8No it isn't. Also, this does not support anything you previously said.
It is based off common sense. If you hit harder than means the product of your mass and velocity is greater.
No he isn't. Having more powers doesn't mean you are more powerful. Superman is much stronger, thus proving that Thanos isn't more powerful.Yes it does. You saying it doesn't is dumb by you. The time gem and slow time (speed you up), speed time (slow you down), etc. No, because he is stronger. Bruce banner is a comic book character and is not faster than the other humans in comics.
I never said having more power equals more powerful.
And funny of you to say strength means more power after just arguing about having more powers doesn't equal more power. Either way, 'much stronger' is just wishful thinking.
It doesn't. It means you can control time. It doesn't mean that your reactions increase... at all actually.
No, because he's a comic character. And also because he's able to lift thousands of times his own weight, can jump almost into space, and his legs are longer than most comic humans. He doesn't follow human logic... because he's a comic character.
Wait, this is the same person who said that Thanos is faster because he broke Cap's shield, and that would somehow mean he's faster... lol.
You just love making things up until you can fool someone, don't you?
Originally posted by BlanketPower shouldn't be confused with strength.
No it isn't. Also, this does not support anything you previously said.
In fact, more power actually means a decrease in speed, as more power usually equals more muscle mass, and therefore will slow you down. If you're going to use common sense of course. 🙂
Most of what you said I understand though, just ****ing with h1.
Originally posted by BlanketThat's true only if there is a gain in muscle mass. But most of these characters don't gain mass when they get stronger. For example, Hulk doesn't gain any mass, he just gets stronger.
No it isn't. Also, this does not support anything you previously said.
In fact, more power actually means a decrease in speed, as more power usually equals more muscle mass, and therefore will slow you down. If you're going to use common sense of course. 🙂
Many here say character A is more powerful than character B because character A can do more things than character B. I thought your statement implied that as well.
I never said having more power equals more powerful.
And funny of you to say strength means more power after just arguing about having more powers doesn't equal more power. Either way, 'much stronger' is just wishful thinking.
there is no such thing as universal time or God's time. If one can do something in X time (no matter how relative that time is to another) then they have Y reflexes. If you slow time then to move its going to appear as if your reflexes and speed increased (which it did relative to mine).
It doesn't. It means you can control time. It doesn't mean that your reactions increase... at all actually.
You corrected yourself. At first you said ONLY because he is a comic character. This is false. If it were true then all comic characters would be faster than humans. To correct your initial statement, which u did, u should have said, "Because he is a comic character AND ..." But you said only because he is a comic character, which is false as to why he is faster.
No, because he's a comic character. And also because he's able to lift thousands of times his own weight, can jump almost into space, and his legs are longer than most comic humans. He doesn't follow human logic... because he's a comic character.
Thanos was faster with the IG at times. Otherwise he wouldn't have broke the shield. Normal Thanos is not faster than Superman though. What am I making up? I'm making sense out of the story for debate and to provide evidence to support my claims. This is what debating is all about. If someone normally lifts something weighing more than 100 tons then they are a class 100 being. This is a fact not something made up.
Wait, this is the same person who said that Thanos is faster because he broke Cap's shield, and that would somehow mean he's faster... lol.
You just love making things up until you can fool someone, don't you?
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So if he missed then why would you go on and on about him amping his reflexes? I guess you just changed your stance which tends to point to you wanting to discredit Thanos by any means.
When he looked and saw Surfer before he was long gone. Then again, like psycho gundam pointed out, it's very arguable that Cap managed to cock his fist back for a left-cross in that same time frame.Yes. Uber Surfer-phail.
Originally posted by h1a8More power means increased movement? Since when? I mean where does that tend to prove true? If what you say is true than Hulk is a lot faster than he normally is when he gets angrier, right?
SS could have missed as the narration states or thanos had his speed increased because of the IG. More power means increased movement speed. This is common sense.
Surfer missed because Thanos moved.
Originally posted by h1a8So why in the shit are you trying to insert common sense and real world logic into it?
That's true only if there is a gain in muscle mass. But most of these characters don't gain mass when they get stronger. For example, Hulk doesn't gain any mass, he just gets stronger.
Originally posted by h1a8No. Learn to read.
Many here say character A is more powerful than character B because character A can do more things than character B. I thought your statement implied that as well.
Originally posted by h1a8
there is no such thing as universal time or God's time. If one can do something in X time (no matter how relative that time is to another) then they have Y reflexes. If you slow time then to move its going to appear as if your reflexes and speed increased (which it did relative to mine).
If they aren't constantly mucking with time as it would have to be used to make it seem as they are faster... then their reflexes stay the same... like Thanos' were.
Originally posted by h1a8Because he's a comic character. That's why he's able to do all of that.
You corrected yourself. At first you said ONLY because he is a comic character. This is false. If it were true then all comic characters would be faster than humans. To correct your initial statement, which u did, u should have said, "Because he is a comic character AND ..." But you said only because he is a comic character, which is false as to why he is faster.
That would not be the case if it were true. As all cases vary. I was just explaining what Hulk being a comic character grants him in powers. Since you want to argue with my previous statement of him being such with some made up mumbo jumbo, so I thought I'd also answer your post with what him being a comic character entails him to specifically.
Either way, your previous statement of asking why Hulk is faster than a human completely disregards this previous point by you as well:
"You having more power than another doesn't mean you will be faster than them. This is because your constant of proportionality from power to speed may be smaller than someone else's due to various factors. But having more power than you once had means that you will be faster than you once were. Do you understand?
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(Same post)
Why is Hulk faster than a human? Because he has more power right?"
Since everything apparently needs to be laid out to you in black and white, let me explain why you contradicted yourself.
I stated that Superman would be slower than Thanos because he was weaker. You stated this is not the case (see above). You then bring up the Hulk example... in the same post, and ask why he's faster than humans. Well this would be a completely irrelevant question as you previously stated that more power doesn't mean he's faster than them. So, that would mean it's a one off case... EXACTLY like why Superman is faster than Thanos, no? So this example is entirely contradicting the first thing you typed in the post (kind of funny how the last thing you post contradicts the first thing you do, as the last thing you said is supposed to reinforce the first thing you say... anyway). Either Thanos is faster than Superman, and Hulk is faster than humans because of power, or Superman is faster than Thanos, and Hulk is faster than humans not because of power (correct answer). One of what you said is wrong though...
You know why Superman is faster than Thanos? Because that's his power.
You know why Hulk is faster than a human? Because that's his power.
You know why some people have different powers than others? Because it's a ****ing comic that you seem to have no grasp of the concept, and don't even read in the first place.
Originally posted by h1a8No he wasn't.
Thanos was faster with the IG at times. Otherwise he wouldn't have broke the shield. Normal Thanos is not faster than Superman though. What am I making up? I'm making sense out of the story for debate and to provide evidence to support my claims. This is what debating is all about. If someone normally lifts something weighing more than 100 tons then they are a class 100 being. This is a fact not something made up.
You are ruining the point of the story in an effort to provide you answers to questions you don't think make sense... which then makes everyone you present your theories to make a big WTF face.
That's the only correct thing I think I've ever seen you type. As for the rest of your post... you should probably follow the basics of that, and start rebuilding everything you type in that image. For your sake, I'll point out to what I called right because you might completely miss it as I don't trust your ability to see it for yourself.
"If someone normally lifts something weighing more than 100 tons then they are a class 100 being. This is a fact not something made up."
Etc, etc. Probably missing/overlooking something important, but I think (or hope anyway) that you get the gist of it.