Originally posted by Black bolt z
Superman flys to hit thanos.Thanos gets hit in the face then smiles as only he can.
Supes is taken back that someone just tanked one of his punches.
Thanos grabs supes's by the neck...then proceeds to wring it.
I disagree that Thanos physical blunt force durability is on the level that he would smile against one of Superman's punches.
I disagree that Superman would just sit there with with superior speed and let Thanos just grab him and wring his neck (as if Thanos is stronger anyway).
That's clearly not how the fight will go. Try again.
Originally posted by h1a8Actually he has smiled when hit by a bloodlusted thor with the power gem. So yes he will smile at supermans punches.
I disagree that Thanos physical blunt force durability is on the level that he would smile against one of Superman's punches.I disagree that Superman would just sit there with with superior speed and let Thanos just grab him and wring his neck (as if Thanos is stronger anyway).
That's clearly not how the fight will go. Try again.
No he won't sit there. But it will be irrelevant. With shields and his massive durability, superman can't keep it up forever.
It clearly is.
Originally posted by h1a8We can't assign an arbitrary number with any definitive proof but what we can tell is Thor was trying to kill anyone in his path which he is normally not doing and that he was gaining strength every second so he was considerably stronger than his normal limitations.
Did you see how Thor hit Thanos in the fight? Did you see how Thor hit SS and Bill?
Big difference. Thor was more popping Thanos with the hammer using jabs and quick small hits. He was uking slamming on Bill and SS. Big difference.What evidence do you have to even suggest that Thor with the PG was at least 2x stronger than a non holding back Thor? It's not about who Thor beat it is how he beat them in determining how much stronger he was.
Thor was above everyone he ran into in that story save Thanos. He hit a brick wall there.
Originally posted by Black bolt zThanos didn't even get hit hard by Thor.
Actually he has smiled when hit by a bloodlusted thor with the power gem. So yes he will smile at supermans punches.No he won't sit there. But it will be irrelevant. With shields and his massive durability, superman can't keep it up forever.
It clearly is.
Prove that Thor in the blood and thunder arc was operating with at least 2x his normal non holding back strength when fighting Thanos.
Then prove that Thor, based on quantifiable feats, is at least 1/10 as strong as Superman.
If Thanos gets his shields up then he can't attack either. He will just sit there and let Superman crumble his shield after a serious pounding. Then he would be a dead duck.
Originally posted by quanchi112Prove he was gaining strength every second while fighting Thanos. Prove that he was gaining more than 1 ton a second.
We can't assign an arbitrary number with any definitive proof but what we can tell is Thor was trying to kill anyone in his path which he is normally not doing and that he was gaining strength every second so he was considerably stronger than his normal limitations.Thor was above everyone he ran into in that story save Thanos. He hit a brick wall there.
Stop using ABOVE arguments. They make no sense. Who is above who doesn't determine who wins. The fact remains that Thor showed no extra strength that a serious non holding back Thor would have shown.
Originally posted by h1a8The comic states he was. Without telling us it's near impossible to ever know.
Thanos didn't even get hit hard by Thor.
Those hammer hits were mere jabs. Thor only hit Thanos hard with his fists. Thor slammed on SS and Bill, but not Thanos.Prove that Thor in the blood and thunder arc was operating with at least 2x his normal non holding back strength when fighting Thanos.
Then prove that Thor, based on quantifiable feats, is at least 1/10 as strong as Superman.If Thanos gets his shields up then he can't attack either. He will just sit there and let Superman crumble his shield after a serious pounding. Then he would be a dead duck.
Prove he was gaining strength every second while fighting Thanos. Prove that he was gaining more than 1 ton a second.
Stop using ABOVE arguments. They make no sense. Who is above who doesn't determine who wins. The fact remains that Thor showed no extra strength that a serious non holding back Thor would have shown.
Thor without the power gem can't crush strange, surfer, and the infinity watch as he used the power gem to fend off attacks nor is this powerful on his own.
I can use these arguments you have yet to formulate one.
Originally posted by quanchi112
The comic states he was. Without telling us it's near impossible to ever know.Thor without the power gem can't crush strange, surfer, and the infinity watch as he used the power gem to fend off attacks nor is this powerful on his own.
I can use these arguments you have yet to formulate one.
The comic only stated he was gaining strength or tapping into the gem when he was in the force block or against Strange's and Warlock's beams. Assuming he always was though then since you agree that it's impossible to know how much he was gaining then we can't assign ANY amount to it. Thor didn't appear too much stronger (if any). But to give the benefit of the doubt I can assign 2x to Thor's strength. This is because an unleashed non holding back Thor nearly one shotted Surfer with a hammer throw WITHOUT THE PG. Besides the force block, The Strange and Warlock feat was THE ONLY ONE where it showed Thor tapping into the gem. When they were blasting him initially, he wasn't tapping into it. Then suddenly he started to tap into it (as their dialogue said). Drax had the gem for a long time (well before blood and thunder) and he didn't get much stronger after all that time. He might have greater feats without the gem than with it.
Originally posted by h1a8It's a subconscious amp most of the time and he was using it actively to resist the karmic blast. He did appear stronger and it's obvious he was gaining strength the entire time but was only set up to machines while in forceblock so Thanos determined how long it would take till be broke free.
The comic only stated he was gaining strength or tapping into the gem when he was in the force block or against Strange's and Warlock's beams. Assuming he always was though then since you agree that it's impossible to know how much he was gaining then we can't assign ANY amount to it. Thor didn't appear too much stronger (if any). But to give the benefit of the doubt I can assign 2x to Thor's strength. This is because an unleashed non holding back Thor nearly one shotted Surfer with a hammer throw WITHOUT THE PG. Besides the force block, The Strange and Warlock feat was THE ONLY ONE where it showed Thor tapping into the gem. When they were blasting him initially, he wasn't tapping into it. Then suddenly he started to tap into it (as their dialogue said). Drax had the gem for a long time (well before blood and thunder) and he didn't get much stronger after all that time. He might have greater feats without the gem than with it.
Thor didn't oneshot him since he attacked him prior to. A hammer toss isn't strength alone anyways.
Drax was better with the power gem than without it you still can't get past the feats type of arguments which hold little to no water.
Originally posted by Black bolt z
Actually he has smiled when hit by a bloodlusted thor with the power gem. So yes he will smile at supermans punches.No he won't sit there. But it will be irrelevant. With shields and his massive durability, superman can't keep it up forever.
It clearly is.
But how will Thanos beat Superman, a flying being that is at least as strong and durable, and way way faster ?
How exactly ?
Remember the forum rules, they both are fighting to the best of their abilities.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It's a subconscious amp most of the time and he was using it actively to resist the karmic blast. He did appear stronger and it's obvious he was gaining strength the entire time but was only set up to machines while in forceblock so Thanos determined how long it would take till be broke free.Thor didn't oneshot him since he attacked him prior to. A hammer toss isn't strength alone anyways.
Drax was better with the power gem than without it you still can't get past the feats type of arguments which hold little to no water.
It was a near one-shot as Thor didn't hit SS prior to the hammer throw.
You say Thor appeared stronger. Maybe a tad bit. But his hits didn't seem too much stronger than his hits prior to getting the PG. Just analyze the fights carefully. You see Thor nearly one-shotting SS in one blow, you see Thor seriously rocking Bill, Drax, etc. without the PG. When he got the PG, the hits seemed the same. I didn't notice much difference than how he hit before. So I would say maybe a tad stronger. But that's it.
Even if Drax with the PG is better than without, since his feats before were greater, we have to assume that Drax with the PG was only miniscule better.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Superman has ZERO chance of winning this fight.. None. He gets stomped with ease and very little effort. If Thanos is really pissed and motivated.. it ends up being a one or two shot at the most.
Ok. If you say so.
Originally posted by Kid KurdySince when is superman as strong and as durable as Thanos ?
Maybe.But how will Thanos beat Superman, a flying being that is at least as strong and durable, and way way faster ?
How exactly ?
Remember the forum rules, they both are fighting to the best of their abilities.