Thanos vs Superman

Started by Black bolt z399 pages

Originally posted by h1a8
Thanos didn't even get hit hard by Thor.
Those hammer hits were mere jabs. Thor only hit Thanos hard with his fists. Thor slammed on SS and Bill, but not Thanos.

Prove that Thor in the blood and thunder arc was operating with at least 2x his normal non holding back strength when fighting Thanos.
Then prove that Thor, based on quantifiable feats, is at least 1/10 as strong as Superman.

If Thanos gets his shields up then he can't attack either. He will just sit there and let Superman crumble his shield after a serious pounding. Then he would be a dead duck.

😐. Pip described thanos as a nail and thor as a hammer. And did you not even read the comic? he was obviously hitting him hard.

The fact that he destroyed Drax and the watch when he was previously having trouble with just drax. And thor is as strong as superman. Arguably stronger. To say he isn't 1/10 as strong is just plain stupid.

Except superman isn't penetrating his shield. And Thanos can attack when his shield is up.

Originally posted by Black bolt z
😐. Pip described thanos as a nail and thor as a hammer. And did you not even read the comic? he was obviously hitting him hard.

The fact that he destroyed Drax and the watch when he was previously having trouble with just drax. And thor is as strong as superman. Arguably stronger. To say he isn't 1/10 as strong is just plain stupid.

Except superman isn't penetrating his shield. And Thanos can attack when his shield is up.

Thor didn't hit much harder with the gem then without. Strange and Warlock were not beaten by physical strength but with a backlash. Even if we give Thor a little extra strength with the gem then without it still doesn't show Thor was even 2x stronger. We need SPECIFIC feats to show HOW MUCH stronger Thor was with the gem than without. And yes I have the entire Blood and Thunder saga (in paper comics).

By feats, Superman is multitudes stronger than Thor. Thor being 1/10 the strength of Superman was a lie by me, just to be nice. Superman is far stronger than 10x Thor's strength.

Since Superman and Thor are from different companies then the ONLY way to know who is stronger is by quantifiable feats. Now if Superman and Thor were from the same company we can know who is stronger by direct comparisons when they face each other as well as feats.

Superman is far stronger than Thor (by feats) and is stronger than Thanos as well.

Originally posted by h1a8

Superman is far stronger than Thor (by feats) and is stronger than Thanos as well.

And its not even debatable either. Superman is so much stronger than Thor its ridiculous. Although with Thanos, I'm not as sure, but by feats alone, yes, clearly Superman is stronger than Thanos.

I'm not saying Superman is more powerful overall than either of them, but in terms of strength, yes is above them. But they have other abilities that even it out.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
And its not even debatable either. Superman is so much stronger than Thor its ridiculous. Although with Thanos, I'm not as sure, but by feats alone, yes, clearly Superman is stronger than Thanos.

I'm not saying Superman is more powerful overall than either of them, but in terms of strength, yes is above them. But they have other abilities that even it out.

No, he isn't. Feats have never decided who is stronger than who. Superman has peers in terms of strength and Thor is among them. With that being said I do think Superman is stronger than Thor but the gap between Thanos an dThor is much wider than Superman and Thor.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he isn't. Feats have never decided who is stronger than who. Superman has peers in terms of strength and Thor is among them. With that being said I do think Superman is stronger than Thor but the gap between Thanos an dThor is much wider than Superman and Thor.

Feats ALWAYS HAVE DECIDED WHO IS STRONGER since the beginning. Especially when characters are from different companies and never faced each other or any one else to connect the dots.

We must have a way to connect the dots. The only way possible to do this with characters of opposite companies is to compare feats. Not only is this sensible but it is the only way.

Also villains seem stronger than heroes because they are nearly always bloodlusted. They let loose to their fullest extent because they want to kill. Heroes have the problem of not wanting to kill unnecessarily and thus don't seem as strong.

Thanos may be stronger than Thor but not by much. If Thor doesn't hold back and is very serious and wants to kill Thanos then a Thor vs. Thanos h2h fight would be a very long one indeed.

Superman speeds up his super senses. Thanos is no more than a statue.

Originally posted by h1a8
Feats ALWAYS HAVE DECIDED WHO IS STRONGER since the beginning. Especially when characters are from different companies and never faced each other or any one else to connect the dots.

We must have a way to connect the dots. The only way possible to do this with characters of opposite companies is to compare feats. Not only is this sensible but it is the only way.

Also villains seem stronger than heroes because they are nearly always bloodlusted. They let loose to their fullest extent because they want to kill. Heroes have the problem of not wanting to kill unnecessarily and thus don't seem as strong.

Thanos may be stronger than Thor but not by much. If Thor doesn't hold back and is very serious and wants to kill Thanos then a Thor vs. Thanos h2h fight would be a very long one indeed.

Wrong. Feats are 99 percent of the time mutually exclusive to the said character it doesn't mean the other character couldn't do it. You have to see how they match up against their peers in terms of strength to get an accurate idea.

Thor already wanted to kill Thanos with the power gem and didn't hold back and he still lost. Thanos smiled like he was ready for a school pic. You tend to ignore comics mainly due to you not ever seeing one but still ask around.

Originally posted by Badabing
Superman speeds up his super senses. Thanos is no more than a statue with a shield
Thanos is startled to find a curly haired man in spandex ko'd at his feet.

Quan smiles.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he isn't. Feats have never decided who is stronger than who. Superman has peers in terms of strength and Thor is among them. With that being said I do think Superman is stronger than Thor but the gap between Thanos an dThor is much wider than Superman and Thor.

If we dont go by feats, then what do we go by,wishful thinking ?

Anyways, supes is too fast and strong

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos is startled to find a curly haired man in spandex ko'd at his feet.

Quan smiles.

Thanos wakes up with a dirty sanchez, super styled. Quan weeps.

Originally posted by paisapower
If we dont go by feats, then what do we go by,wishful thinking ?

Anyways, supes is too fast and strong

I just stated what we go by or what I do. You can't take some feat and say Thanos couldn't do it.

We see how Superman matches up against his peers such as Marvel, Orion, etc. and see if there's a huge strength advantage but when we see Thanos he doesn't seem affected by mere elite top tier strength by any means.

Thanos ran into a more powerful Thor with the power gem and it didn't even really phase him say a bloodied nose to which he seemed to enjoy the conflict till he grew weary of it.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor didn't hit much harder with the gem then without. Strange and Warlock were not beaten by physical strength but with a backlash. Even if we give Thor a little extra strength with the gem then without it still doesn't show Thor was even 2x stronger. We need SPECIFIC feats to show HOW MUCH stronger Thor was with the gem than without. And yes I have the entire Blood and Thunder saga (in paper comics).

By feats, Superman is multitudes stronger than Thor. Thor being 1/10 the strength of Superman was a lie by me, just to be nice. Superman is far stronger than 10x Thor's strength.

Since Superman and Thor are from different companies then the ONLY way to know who is stronger is by quantifiable feats. Now if Superman and Thor were from the same company we can know who is stronger by direct comparisons when they face each other as well as feats.

Superman is far stronger than Thor (by feats) and is stronger than Thanos as well.

and what feats are we talking about?

Originally posted by h1a8
By feats, Superman is multitudes stronger than Thor. Thor being 1/10 the strength of Superman was a lie by me, just to be nice. Superman is far stronger than 10x Thor's strength.

Based on...what?

Superman is physically stronger than Thor, but not to a degree to clearly and decisively overpower him (more than 10x stronger?), let's be real. You have no way of even beginning to quantify or prove that, either.

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
and what feats are we talking about?

Just about all of them. From moon moving, to planet moving, to maggedon, to Lobo launching, to splitting moons, to holding black holes, to throwing stars, to punching so hard that it shatters dimensions, to lifting mountains, etc.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Based on...what?

Superman is physically stronger than Thor, but not to a degree to clearly and decisively overpower him (more than 10x stronger?), let's be real. You have no way of even beginning to quantify or prove that, either.

Superman has quantifiable feats than shows more than 10x more power than ANYTHING quantifiable that Thor has ever done.

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman has quantifiable feats than shows more than 10x more power than ANYTHING quantifiable that Thor has ever done.

Such as...?

I mean, seriously, it's difficult to take your word for anything Thor based as you're not all that familiar with the character as evidenced by several threads concerning him. Perusing through the respect thread isn't enough. No one objective would agree with that claim, either. Superman's stronger than Thor, but not to the degree of which you're claiming.

Originally posted by h1a8
Just about all of them. From moon moving, to planet moving, to maggedon, to Lobo launching, to splitting moons, to holding black holes, to throwing stars, to punching so hard that it shatters dimensions, to lifting mountains, etc.

Superman has quantifiable feats than shows more than 10x more power than ANYTHING quantifiable that Thor has ever done.

and yet Thor has comparable feats such as busting a planetoid, punching dimensions closed, stated as being able to bench press small planets which equates to being able to move planets, pulling the midgar serpent away from the earth, launching the zombie viking due to space (jared hakerson or something like that), the world tree etc.

we can also go the stupidly stupid feats such s superman lifting the book thingy stated to weigh infinity to thor resisting infinite gravity crap.

your claims that superman is way beyond thor in strength is pure garbage.

Thanos is gross... Disgusting, look at how he treats the sexy chaos mite, i'd love some girl on girl with her.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Such as...?

I mean, seriously, it's difficult to take your word for anything Thor based as you're not all that familiar with the character as evidenced by several threads concerning him. Perusing through the respect thread isn't enough. No one objective would agree with that claim, either. Superman's stronger than Thor, but not to the degree of which you're claiming.

Jake.. why do you bother arguing with The Virus? This the same guy that said superman is over million times stronger than Thor. Is there really a point wihen somebody has a stance such as that?

Originally posted by gogogadgetgo
and yet Thor has comparable feats such as busting a planetoid, punching dimensions closed, stated as being able to bench press small planets which equates to being able to move planets, pulling the midgar serpent away from the earth, launching the zombie viking due to space (jared hakerson or something like that), the world tree etc.

we can also go the stupidly stupid feats such s superman lifting the book thingy stated to weigh infinity to thor resisting infinite gravity crap.

your claims that superman is way beyond thor in strength is pure garbage.

I have many Thor comics (paper versions of them). I have way more Thor comics than Superman comics believe it or not.

Busting a planetoid is nothing in comparison. Punching dimensions closed is unquantifiable (He had herc's help too) and still weak, as he already had a dimension in front of him, whereas Superman did what he did without a dimension being in front of him to punch.

Being stated to do things is not a feat. It has been stated that Superman can destroy planets with a punch. A small planet? Superman has feats that SHOW (not stated) more than 50 Earth weights of force.

Pulling the midgard serpent isn't that impressive in comparision to Superman's feats because:
1. The Serpent was in ethereal form as the panel stated and only the head materialized as the handbook stated. The Serpent was magically crushing the Earth (not physically). So Thor lifted the head and indirectly broke Serpent's magical grip on the Earth. He did not really lift a full materialized Serpent's body. He just lifted the head and broke the magical grip. Which is still impressive but still peanuts in comparison to Superman's top feats.

2. Assuming the Serpent was fully materialized (he lifted the whole weight of it) then it is still nothing to Superman's top feats where are over 50 Earth weights of force.

3. The boat supplied much power to Thor. Thor's arms are only 5ft. He can't pull a Serpent the size of the Earth completely off the Earth without the boat pulling him away.

Launching the viking into space was not canon. Also that only shows strength in the hundreds of millions of tons. Which isn't .01% of the stuff Superman has done. Superman hitting Lobo to space and thru a very durable Alien spacecraft (where the walls very several feet of thick durable metals) is astronomically more than the Harald Jaekelson feat.

The world tree is unquantifiable as is Superman's lifting infinite weight (as in the book with infinite pages). I don't use those feats but only quantifiable ones.

Originally posted by h1a8
I have many Thor comics (paper versions of them). I have way more Thor comics than Superman comics believe it or not.

Busting a planetoid is nothing in comparison. Punching dimensions closed is unquantifiable (He had herc's help too) and still weak, as he already had a dimension in front of him, whereas Superman did what he did without a dimension being in front of him to punch.

Being stated to do things is not a feat. It has been stated that Superman can destroy planets with a punch. A small planet? Superman has feats that SHOW (not stated) more than 50 Earth weights of force.

Pulling the midgard serpent isn't that impressive in comparision to Superman's feats because:
1. The Serpent was in ethereal form as the panel stated and only the head materialized as the handbook stated. The Serpent was magically crushing the Earth (not physically). So Thor lifted the head and indirectly broke Serpent's magical grip on the Earth. He did not really lift a full materialized Serpent's body. He just lifted the head and broke the magical grip. Which is still impressive but still peanuts in comparison to Superman's top feats.

2. Assuming the Serpent was fully materialized (he lifted the whole weight of it) then it is still nothing to Superman's top feats where are over 50 Earth weights of force.

3. The boat supplied much power to Thor. Thor's arms are only 5ft. He can't pull a Serpent the size of the Earth completely off the Earth without the boat pulling him away.

Launching the viking into space was not canon. Also that only shows strength in the hundreds of millions of tons. Which isn't .01% of the stuff Superman has done. Superman hitting Lobo to space and thru a very durable Alien spacecraft (where the walls very several feet of thick durable metals) is astronomically more than the Harald Jaekelson feat.

The world tree is unquantifiable as is Superman's lifting infinite weight (as in the book with infinite pages). I don't use those feats but only quantifiable ones.

ah..classic h1, discrediting and down playing Thor's on panel feats to suit your own agenda, which is obviously to make superman look vastly superior to Thor.

plus making things up like the boat providing pull...ahh...yess...classic h1...

here's another instance where Thor flinging some poor soul into space...take not, not orbit but space as Thor aimed for an asteroid. that is far greater than your lobo feat as it just sent lobo into orbit while thor flings the poor dude onto an asteroid far out in space...

i'm sure you'll invent some crazy shit which is not even on panel just to discredit it. but what the hey, whatever.