Originally posted by carver9
Lol... I just don't understand what's wrong with me using that as a "medium" showing. I would still like to know what you are talking about, that would be helpful.
I'm just amazed at how often you've discounted feats that were "aided by flight" and i also remember you touting the asteroid one as much more than a "medium" feat.
we're discussing high end feats anyway, so you either a) brought it up and hoped nobody would mention it, or b) are trying to bring "medium" feats in to a discussion where they don't belong.
i think we both know which it is. mmm
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm just amazed at how often you've discounted feats that were "aided by flight" and i also remember you touting the asteroid one as much more than a "medium" feat.we're discussing high end feats anyway, so you either a) brought it up and hoped nobody would mention it, or b) are trying to bring "medium" feats in to a discussion where they don't belong.
i think we both know which it is. mmm
I'm not going to lie, I did use it as a high end feat but ithe feat that you are talking about me discrediting is kind of different than the Hulk feat.
Originally posted by psycho gundamNo sir, lifting, pulling, real feats of strength that don't involve A> B > C character-wise are what I'm after.
which again brings me back to hulk almost sinking the eastern seaboard with footfallsgood game everyone
Regular footfalls doing damage like that has more to do with mass being gained. Strength doesn't do something like that. Now if he was purposely stomping and doing that? Sure. That'd be alright, but then that would even be less impressive in my opinion than Death of Superman against Doomsday, Superman was causing seismic shifts around the entire globe with the blows landed [which obviously were not even directed at the actual planet itself, so that's only residual effect after Doomsday took the brunt of the energy of strikes]. And that Superman, is considered substantially weaker than the current version.
But either way, this is ridiculously more powerful version Hulk than Thanos ever faced, so there's no way to bring it back to him in a comparison of raw physical strength.
The point of the challenge is that Marvel characters drop a feat of strength akin to one that Superman do once every dozen years or something, pushing their limits to extremes, in their greatest ever showings, to match the stuff Superman does arc to arc.
We have multiple instances -- all recent -- of Superman in combat casually and repeatedly throwing punches that would shatter a moon, not even suggesting he's at his limit, but more-so, impressed when an enemy shrugs them off. When a Marvel 'Character A' does something even remotely close to it, it's a ****ing two page spread, with lots of pretty extra lines and shit, that will go down as one of the highlights of their 40 year history, and will be used as a benchmark of why they're in a 'Superman level' class, even though it's quite blatantly obvious to anyone following the trend of Superman doing amazing shit, that it's anything but the truth. Then they conflate this event onto another character, because 10 years before this event even happened, 'Character C' beat the bejeezes out of that guy.
Which is exactly the type of arguement being presented to me here.
Originally posted by Juntai
In fact, show me some of Marvel characters strength based characters [a character we can directly relate in a performance to Thanos] most impressive[top ten] feats of raw strength over the last 10 years, and we'll put them up in a bracket against Superman's performances.Because suggesting Thanos is physically stronger than character A) whos stronger than B) and C), does nothing for me when Superman and his DC peers operate on a drastically higher level physically on a regular basis.
Originally posted by Juntai👆
No sir, lifting, pulling, real feats of strength that don't involve A> B > C character-wise are what I'm after.Regular footfalls doing damage like that has more to do with mass being gained. Strength doesn't do something like that. Now if he was purposely stomping and doing that? Sure. That'd be alright, but then that would even be less impressive in my opinion than Death of Superman against Doomsday, Superman was causing seismic shifts around the entire globe with the blows landed [which obviously were not even directed at the actual planet itself, so that's only residual effect after Doomsday took the brunt of the energy of strikes]. And that Superman, is considered substantially weaker than the current version.
But either way, this is ridiculously more powerful version Hulk than Thanos ever faced, so there's no way to bring it back to him in a comparison of raw physical strength.
The point of the challenge is that Marvel characters drop a feat of strength akin to one that Superman do once every dozen years or something, pushing their limits to extremes, in their greatest ever showings, to match the stuff Superman does arc to arc.
We have multiple instances -- all recent -- of Superman in combat casually and repeatedly throwing punches that would shatter a moon, not even suggesting he's at his limit, but more-so, impressed when an enemy shrugs them off. When a Marvel 'Character A' does something even remotely close to it, it's a ****ing two page spread, with lots of pretty extra lines and shit, that will go down as one of the highlights of their 40 year history, and will be used as a benchmark of why they're in a 'Superman level' class, even though it's quite blatantly obvious to anyone following the trend of Superman doing amazing shit, that it's anything but the truth. Then they conflate this event onto another character, because 10 years before this event even happened, 'Character C' beat the bejeezes out of that guy.
Which is exactly the type of arguement being presented to me here.
From the last decade, you can choose say, any 5 years alone and Superman still has better, or comparable feats to anybody from Marvel up to and including Thanos level.
Originally posted by Juntaifacepalm it has nothing to do with mass being gained, hulk doesnt and didnt gain teratons of extra mass, it was the sheer stress of his muscles contracting. he had already done somthing similar years before and that feat is legit. and ripping continents apart by walking is much muuuuch more impressive than causing earthquakes by trading blows.
No sir, lifting, pulling, real feats of strength that don't involve A> B > C character-wise are what I'm after.Regular footfalls doing damage like that has more to do with mass being gained. Strength doesn't do something like that. Now if he was purposely stomping and doing that? Sure. That'd be alright, but then that would even be less impressive in my opinion than Death of Superman against Doomsday, Superman was causing seismic shifts around the entire globe with the blows landed [which obviously were not even directed at the actual planet itself, so that's only residual effect after Doomsday took the brunt of the energy of strikes]. And that Superman, is considered substantially weaker than the current version..
Originally posted by Juntai
No sir, lifting, pulling, real feats of strength that don't involve A> B > C character-wise are what I'm after.Regular footfalls doing damage like that has more to do with mass being gained. Strength doesn't do something like that. Now if he was purposely stomping and doing that? Sure. That'd be alright, but then that would even be less impressive in my opinion than Death of Superman against Doomsday, Superman was causing seismic shifts around the entire globe with the blows landed [which obviously were not even directed at the actual planet itself, so that's only residual effect after Doomsday took the brunt of the energy of strikes]. And that Superman, is considered substantially weaker than the current version.
But either way, this is ridiculously more powerful version Hulk than Thanos ever faced, so there's no way to bring it back to him in a comparison of raw physical strength.
The point of the challenge is that Marvel characters drop a feat of strength akin to one that Superman do once every dozen years or something, pushing their limits to extremes, in their greatest ever showings, to match the stuff Superman does arc to arc.
We have multiple instances -- all recent -- of Superman in combat casually and repeatedly throwing punches that would shatter a moon, not even suggesting he's at his limit, but more-so, impressed when an enemy shrugs them off. When a Marvel 'Character A' does something even remotely close to it, it's a ****ing two page spread, with lots of pretty extra lines and shit, that will go down as one of the highlights of their 40 year history, and will be used as a benchmark of why they're in a 'Superman level' class, even though it's quite blatantly obvious to anyone following the trend of Superman doing amazing shit, that it's anything but the truth. Then they conflate this event onto another character, because 10 years before this event even happened, 'Character C' beat the bejeezes out of that guy.
Which is exactly the type of arguement being presented to me here.
Hyperbole and BS.
Originally posted by Juntai
No sir, lifting, pulling, real feats of strength that don't involve A> B > C character-wise are what I'm after.Regular footfalls doing damage like that has more to do with mass being gained. Strength doesn't do something like that. Now if he was purposely stomping and doing that? Sure. That'd be alright, but then that would even be less impressive in my opinion than Death of Superman against Doomsday, Superman was causing seismic shifts around the entire globe with the blows landed [which obviously were not even directed at the actual planet itself, so that's only residual effect after Doomsday took the brunt of the energy of strikes]. And that Superman, is considered substantially weaker than the current version.
But either way, this is ridiculously more powerful version Hulk than Thanos ever faced, so there's no way to bring it back to him in a comparison of raw physical strength.
The point of the challenge is that Marvel characters drop a feat of strength akin to one that Superman do once every dozen years or something, pushing their limits to extremes, in their greatest ever showings, to match the stuff Superman does arc to arc.
We have multiple instances -- all recent -- of Superman in combat casually and repeatedly throwing punches that would shatter a moon, not even suggesting he's at his limit, but more-so, impressed when an enemy shrugs them off. When a Marvel 'Character A' does something even remotely close to it, it's a ****ing two page spread, with lots of pretty extra lines and shit, that will go down as one of the highlights of their 40 year history, and will be used as a benchmark of why they're in a 'Superman level' class, even though it's quite blatantly obvious to anyone following the trend of Superman doing amazing shit, that it's anything but the truth. Then they conflate this event onto another character, because 10 years before this event even happened, 'Character C' beat the bejeezes out of that guy.
Which is exactly the type of arguement being presented to me here.
So the aformentioned feats of Hulk.. including the ones carver named... along with thunder clapping through dimensions... holding up mountain ranges and Pyramids... PG feat in the WWH arc... Thor and the M.S. incident...Hercules holding up both earth and the "weight" of the universe on seperate occasions. Drax crushing the core of the sun with his bare hands etc etc... The lines up just fine with Superman best strengths feats... All these people who have strength feats comparable to Superman have gotten punked like weak feebs by Thanos. We aren't talking about quantity.. we're talking quality which is all that matters here. It doesn't matter how often they do it.. it only matters that they can do it and proven such.
Futhermore, you keep on ducking the question I continue to ask... How can you compare strength feats of heroes against villians who don't have such feats. You even made the ludicris claim that Superman was stronger than Despero.... Yet Despero was punking superman WITH HELP like a weak feeb. But but but.. despero has no lifting feats.. thus superman is stronger? WTF. That line of thinking is so ass-backwards and illogical I don't even know what to say about it. The fact is, villians like Thanos, DS, Mangog, Despero... aren't going to have lifting and pulling feats that heroes do. What they will have, are feats of punking heralds with lifting feats like weak feebs. Ya know kinda like Despero punking Superman with help from the league at the same time like a weakling.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So the aformentioned feats of Hulk.. including the ones carver named... along with thunder clapping through dimensions... holding up mountain ranges and Pyramids... PG feat in the WWH arc... Thor and the M.S. incident...Hercules holding up both earth and the "weight" of the universe on seperate occasions. Drax crushing the core of the sun with his bare hands etc etc... The lines up just fine with Superman best strengths feats... All these people who have strength feats comparable to Superman have gotten punked like weak feebs by Thanos. We aren't talking about quantity.. we're talking quality which is all that matters here. It doesn't matter how often they do it.. it only matters that they can do it and proven such.Futhermore, you keep on ducking the question I continue to ask... How can you compare strength feats of heroes against villians who don't have such feats. You even made the ludicris claim that Superman was stronger than Despero.... Yet Despero was punking superman WITH HELP like a weak feeb. But but but.. despero has no lifting feats.. thus superman is stronger? WTF. That line of thinking is so ass-backwards and illogical I don't even know what to say about it. The fact is, villians like Thanos, DS, Mangog, Despero... aren't going to have lifting and pulling feats that heroes do. What they will have, are feats of punking heralds with lifting feats like weak feebs. Ya know kinda like Despero punking Superman with help from the league at the same time like a weakling.
You forgot about Titus... he doesn't have a lifting feat as well and during him and Supes first run, he one shots him. They meet again, he one shots him yet again. Konvikt doesn't have a lifting feat either and held his own against Supes. Grundy doesn't have a lifting feat in Supes league but STOMPED both Supes and Alan Scott.
His post was hilarious.
Originally posted by carver9
You forgot about Titus... he doesn't have a lifting feat as well and during him and Supes first run, he one shots him. They meet again, he one shots him yet again. Konvikt doesn't have a lifting feat either and held his own against Supes. Grundy doesn't have a lifting feat in Supes league but STOMPED both Supes and Alan Scott.His post was hilarious.
