Originally posted by Juntaithe h1a8 brain virus is spreading through the forum
The only feat from the last decade among those posted was the Hulk one, and it's not applicable, since Hulk at that level never faced Thanos, and still wasn't as impressive as Superman when he was still weaker, prior to his death.
Originally posted by Juntainah theyre the same shit, youre just trying to make more stats where SM would be better than thanos up.
No, they're all separate aspects of fighting.Thanos isn't crushing someone that's obviously at his level, or superior to him in every statistic involved in fighting.. Sorry.
If you believe so- back it up with more than hopes and dreams.
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also facepalm at SM being on par or above him in every statistic involved in fighting (which you seem to equate with h2h cqc). thanos has better durabilty/damage soak/healing factor; forceblock; force-fields; AoE attacks; teleportation and superior energy projection whether through blasts or amped bitchslaps;
Originally posted by -Pr-
The Phoenix bit primarily.The ignorance was more telling, though. Most of the stuff you posted, Superman has done, and better.
Though you would know that if you read the comics.
Naah...
You see that young looking guy flying around with that attractive sword? Well he is a Phoenix and was stated as being a Phoenix of the highest order. He hung around with the Xmen during this arc and had some pretty good showings, hell, he had the shiar along with Vulcan kind of scared of him.
Well Glads steps to the plate and 2 panel him and takes that noggin clean off.
Originally posted by Omega Visionclearly, SM>>>>>>>SS in CQC and what thanos did to surfer (who was indeed stupid to fight him like that) would not work on SM. but thanos does not need to engage SM in CQC as he has AoE attacks for offense and forcefields/teleportation for deffense. he's also packing that functional immortality and the forceblock.
What are we basing Thanos crushing him on?Him beating Surfer, someone greatly inferior in CQC to Superman?
Originally posted by carver9Korvus was the guy we saw in that arc Carver, who only had a portion of the Phoenix Force that Rook'Shir did via the sword.
Naah...You see that young looking guy flying around with that attractive sword? Well he is a Phoenix and was stated as being a Phoenix of the highest order. He hung around with the Xmen during this arc and had some pretty good showings, hell, he had the shiar along with Vulcan kind of scared of him.
Well Glads steps to the plate and 2 panel him and takes that noggin clean off.
The guy you posted was different and had the actual Phoenix Force... just for clarity's sake.
Originally posted by carver9No, you didn't.
I know 🙂 .
Originally posted by carver9
You see that young looking guy flying around with that attractive sword? Well he is a Phoenix and was stated as being a Phoenix of the highest order. He hung around with the Xmen during this arc and had some pretty good showings, hell, he had the shiar along with Vulcan kind of scared of him.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Then you should also know that what you posted is nothing but unquantifiable hyperbole.I don't mean to be mean, but you do that a lot...
Also, Gladiator didn't create a star, and he was even hurt by the explosion of the Skrull weapon.
I didn't post anything hyperbole in my statements except the ripping the star in half... that was a hyperbole statement.
As for Gladiator containing a solar system destroying blast... here ya go. A star was created after this containment.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/wtfshipmh5.jpg/
And he was not injured after this... a couple of panels later, he flies down and one shot Thing and destroys the rest of the Fantastic 4.
@Bieb...
Thanks a lot man (and I'm being sarcastic)... he did have some of the Phoenix force though and he was beastly and got one shotted.
Originally posted by carver9You still don't understand.
@Bieb...Thanks a lot man (and I'm being sarcastic)... he did have some of the Phoenix force though and he was beastly and got one shotted.
The guy you posted had the Phoenix Force. Korvus (the guy we actually saw) was the one with the portion of the Phoenix Force who hung around the Sex-Men.
I was backing you up and trying to avoid confusion, but you decided to be smug instead.
Originally posted by carver9
I didn't post anything hyperbole in my statements except the ripping the star in half... that was a hyperbole statement.As for Gladiator containing a solar system destroying blast... here ya go. A star was created after this containment.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/267/wtfshipmh5.jpg/
And he was not injured after this... a couple of panels later, he flies down and one shot Thing and destroys the rest of the Fantastic 4.
@Bieb...
Thanks a lot man (and I'm being sarcastic)... he did have some of the Phoenix force though and he was beastly and got one shotted.
That scan is from Fantastic Four 249. It's the same one you've used before, and it states that star was born near pluto, though pages later reed says that it was an explosion. it's not consistent.
half the solar system. not the same thing. and the "containment" isn't specified by how or what method.
and in the next issue he states that he was "dazed and confused" by the blast. so it did hurt him, at least one some level.
and your phoenix comment is still pretty useless as a feat.
Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
You still don't understand.The guy you posted had the Phoenix Force. Korvus (the guy we actually saw) was the one with the portion of the Phoenix Force who hung around the Sex-Men.
I was backing you up and trying to avoid confusion, but you decided to be smug instead.
Gotcha...
I just trust your answers a lil too much and thought you were saying he only had a portion. I was thinking (which you clarified) he had the full Phoenix force but when I read your post, I was thinking you were correcting me.
Just forget it... I won't trust you next time 😉.
Thanks for the help though.
Originally posted by -Pr-
That scan is from Fantastic Four 249. It's the same one you've used before, and it states that star was born near pluto, though pages later reed says that it was an explosion. it's not consistent.half the solar system. not the same thing. and the "containment" isn't specified by how or what method.
and in the next issue he states that he was "dazed and confused" by the blast. so it did hurt him, at least one some level.
and your phoenix comment is still pretty useless as a feat.
The next scene have Reed caculating his speed (at 100 times the speed of light) and they didn't show Gladiator once. After that we have this...
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5260/gladiatorvsfantasticfour015yo.jpg
Gladiator was 100% after this, no pain or any type of fatigue.
Gladiator was "by" Pluto when he contained the blast and if it wasn't physical might that contained the blast, how did Gladiator do it?
As for the Phoenix scan, I just showed you him punching the head off of a Phoenix wileder. What more would you like me to show you? How is the feat useless when the guy have the entire Phoenix force and was wrecking shop with it until he met my boy Glads?
Originally posted by carver9
The next scene have Reed caculating his speed (at 100 times the speed of light) and they didn't show Gladiator once. After that we have this...http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/5260/gladiatorvsfantasticfour015yo.jpg
Gladiator was 100% after this, no pain or any type of fatigue.
Gladiator was "by" Pluto when he contained the blast and if it wasn't physical might that contained the blast, how did Gladiator do it?
As for the Phoenix scan, I just showed you him punching the head off of a Phoenix wileder. What more would you like me to show you? How is the feat useless when the guy have the entire Phoenix force and was wrecking shop with it until he met my boy Glads?
Huh?
Gladiator stated in the next issue that he was "dazed and confused" and that it had been caused by his run-in with the Skrulls. So the blast did affect him in some way.
I don't know, thats why I said it hadn't been stated.
So he finished a guy that was beaten. What kind of feat is that supposed to represent? Jean had the Phoenix at several times over her career. It didn't make her all powerful every single time.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Huh?Gladiator stated in the next issue that he was "dazed and confused" and that it had been caused by his run-in with the Skrulls. So the blast did affect him in some way.
I don't know, thats why I said it hadn't been stated.
So he finished a guy that was beaten. What kind of feat is that supposed to represent? Jean had the Phoenix at several times over her career. It didn't make her all powerful every single time.
Honestly... I read the issue numerous of times and don't remember him saying that. I think you are referring to the attacks the skrull used on him to weaken him... they hit him with his radiation weakness. I already showed you Gladiator landing on Earth after that attack with a smile on his face and after that, he takes out the entire Fantastic Four... then the skrull shows up.
Gladiator physically contained that blast which is a high testament of power since it was capable of shedding half a solar system.
Gladiator beat him (the Phoenix force wielder)and finished him as well. Gladiator beat on that same guy throughout the series. At one point, he one shotted him and then took out Poloris and Rachel with one shots after defeating him.
He was powerful though and shiar tech classified him as all powerful. That's like me saying that ION during his fight with Prime isn't powerful (even though the guy with the Phoenix force had more experience).
Originally posted by carver9
Honestly... I read the issue numerous of times and don't remember him saying that. I think you are referring to the attacks the skrull used on him to weaken him... they hit him with his radiation weakness. I already showed you Gladiator landing on Earth after that attack with a smile on his face and after that, he takes out the entire Fantastic Four... then the skrull shows up.Gladiator physically contained that blast which is a high testament of power since it was capable of shedding half a solar system.
Gladiator beat him (the Phoenix force wielder)and finished him as well. Gladiator beat on that same guy throughout the series. At one point, he one shotted him and then took out Poloris and Rachel with one shots after defeating him.
He was powerful though and shiar tech classified him as all powerful. That's like me saying that ION during his fight with Prime isn't powerful (even though the guy with the Phoenix force had more experience).
Umm, no. The issue directly states that it was due to the first attack:
Top left panel:
He might have physically contained the blast. If so, good for him. It still doesn't put him above a lot of other heralds.
Are we talking about the guy with the sword or the other, was around years ago guy? Because I think you're talking about sword guy (the one that fooled around with rachel).
Yes, and it was stated that The Imperial Guard stopped him, not Gladiator alone. Gladiator finished him, sure. That's not the same as beating him one on one.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Umm, no. The issue directly states that it was due to the first attack:Top left panel:
He might have physically contained the blast. If so, good for him. It still doesn't put him above a lot of other heralds.
Are we talking about the guy with the sword or the other, was around years ago guy? Because I think you're talking about sword guy (the one that fooled around with rachel).
Yes, and it was stated that The Imperial Guard stopped him, not Gladiator alone. Gladiator finished him, sure. That's not the same as beating him one on one.
That scan was unclear since he fought the skrulls through at least 2 issues.
What Herald can contain a blast of that magnetude?
Gladiator was tossing around these Phoenix wielders consistently throughout the series. I don't know what else to show you.
Originally posted by carver9
That scan was unclear since he fought the skrulls through at least 2 issues.What Herald can contain a blast of that magnetude?
Gladiator was tossing around these Phoenix wielders consistently throughout the series. I don't know what else to show you.
The scan was clear. It specifically said "last issue". Come on now.
Superman, Surfer, Thor, Green Lantern.
Which ones? I'm looking at that exact comic right now. What Phoenix wielders are you talking about?
