Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I don't currently know any pedophiles or child molesters. I have read studies on child molestation prevention. You are making assumptions without first getting information. I would say that is typical of most of your arguments.
Well then based on the above, the initial "assumption" that you made was inaccurate.
I don't have any statistics, but common sense would dictates to me that most pedophiles, have probably commited the crime of pedophilia at some point or another.
If they haven't performed the action themselves, then I'd take a gander at saying that they have been con-conspirators in the molestation of young children. Specifically conspiring by the viewing or distrubution of child pornagraphy. What thoughts do you have about this "assumption" that I've now made? Do you agree or disagree? And if you disagree, please provide information relating to the "studies" that you have read.
Originally posted by Thundar
Well then based on the above, the initial "assumption" that you made was inaccurate.I don't have any statistics, but common sense would dictates to me that most pedophiles, have probably commited the crime of pedophilia at some point or another.
If they haven't performed the action themselves, then I'd take a gander at saying that they have been con-conspirators in the molestation of young children. Specifically conspiring by the viewing or distrubution of child pornography. What thoughts do you have about this "assumption" that I've now made? Do you agree or disagree? And if you disagree, please provide information relating to the "studies" that you have read.
That is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. Pedophilia is not a crime. Child pornography is a crime.
Please educate yourself.
http://www.medem.com/MedLB/article_detaillb.cfm?article_ID=ZZZUZRUZGLC&sub_cat=355
Originally posted by Magee
Explain.
Lord Urizen has been messing with the theists for months and recently created his own "religion" as a counter to their tendency to quote the bible as a source of absolute truth
there's a good bit of it here
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/436367_11-how-do-you-expect-others-to-beleive
it even includes an argument between me and Urizen both using fictional religions
haha how very intuitive. Seriously though why do these people waste there time arguing over a bunch of books written buy a bunch of people thousands of years ago and translated about 17billion times to the point where its a bigger lie than it was to start off with? Why? Because they feel inferior and the need to feel importance and self worth in there life blinds them from the utter stupidity of it all.
Originally posted by ShakyamunisonPlease educate yourself.
http://www.medem.com/MedLB/article_detaillb.cfm?article_ID=ZZZUZRUZGLC&sub_cat=355 [/B]
Lol. Yes I know. I must admit that I made a bit of slip. But based on my prior response, the meaning of what was posted was rather obvious. Are you truly of the belief that most pedophiles, haven't commited the crime of "molestation" and/or engaged in watching child pornography? I'd really like to know your opinion on this.
[QUOTE=8141663]Originally posted by Bardock42
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What if it was the devil that did it away with?
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I could use two arguments against your question:
1. If it was the devil, that proves the existence of the spiritual realm, therefore proving God's existence.
2. Jesus says in the Bible (upon being accused of driving out demons because he was a demon) that the devil does not act against himself.
Remember, the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was fooling the world that he doesnt exist.
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What if it was your own will?
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If miracles were a matter of will, anyone would have power over everything, we would be able to things like fly or control our surroundings.
This is not the Matrix.
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What if it was luck?
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Luck exists where there is the possibilty of various outcomes. There is no chance at all in medical terms that such a disease can go away.
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God is not the only explanation.
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Did He not create us? Does He not possess the power to overwhealm anything?
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And if it was "God", why should it be the Christian God? Why not Allah? Or Zeus?
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Any Muslim-turned-Christian or Greek-turned-Christian will tell you why not.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're a funny guy (I still think you're joking but I might be wrong)Besides I don't hate God I just think that there are too many possible gods out there for you to say I have to pick yours
why shouldn't I worship Haruhi, Krishna, Alla, Odin, Zeus, Budda, The Holy Orgasm or what ever I want?
I'll give you the only reason why: Jesus Christ.
Here's some more proof:
Originally posted by Thundar
Well I don't think one should quickly condemn an individual based on their beliefs, but I do think it's okay to make judgements about an individual's character based on these beliefs.
How is it okay to judge anyone first of all?
How is it okay to judge someone based on thier beleifs secondly ?
How is someone a bad person is they don't beleive in God ? A lot of bad and cruel people beleive in God...
Originally posted by Thundar
For example, I doubt too many individuals on this board would classify pedophilia as a rational, moral, or acceptable belief system. Now if someone were to proudly label themselves a pedophile, then most of us with a bit of common sense...would not want our children to be around them.
1) Peadophilia is not a beleif system, it's a mental disorder
2) That's not judgement. Shielding your children from a peadophile is not judgement....
Calling the peadophile a "sicko" or throwing negative statements and insults, IS judgement....
Judgement is bullshit...we have no right to judge others. We should only aim to help a peadophile by attempting to discover the roots to this disorder.
People with disorders should be helped, not judged or condemned, especially for something that is not thier fault.
Originally posted by Thundar
So am I stating that an athiest has the same rationale as a pedophile? Of course not. However, I have found that many who devoutly ascribe to atheism are not very innovative thinkers. Why is this? Because they completely disregard the existence of the spiritual and supernatural world around them.
That makes no sense.....absolutely no sense what so ever.
You make another baseless generalization...one's beleif or lack of beleif in God has absolutely nothing to do with thier intelligence or open mindedness....
It has all to do with thier upbringings and level of comfort with life.