Atheism

Started by Symmetric Chaos17 pages
Originally posted by Up In Flames
Of course the commandments are Jewish. Jesus was of Jewish decent also. So were many of the prophets as mentioned in the bible. But Jesus was NOT God, He was the Son of God.

actaully Jesus WAS Jewish not just of Jewish decent

Originally posted by Up In Flames

Failure? Ive given you overwhelming evidence that God exists. You're the one who has yet to prove that He does not. You trying to find God is on par with a criminal trying to find the policeman. You'll never find Him as long as you continue running away from Him.

don't worry Urizen has seen the light and founded his own religion

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
don't worry Urizen has seen the light and founded his own religion

Sure...

check the recent posts on the other threads

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Of course the commandments are Jewish. Jesus was of Jewish decent also. So were many of the prophets as mentioned in the bible. But Jesus was NOT God, He was the Son of God.

Failure? Ive given you overwhelming evidence that God exists. You're the one who has yet to prove that He does not. You trying to find God is on par with a criminal trying to find the policeman. You'll never find Him as long as you continue running away from Him.

You haven't proven dick.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
He exists in all strata of reality in Spirit.

I have found God now....I am finally at Peace 😄

God does exist. What about when someone gets cancer but they dont die?!?! miracle. how about when theres a car crash and the person does not die!! God. When a baby is saved from a burning building, THAT IS GOD. You wanted proof, there you go so if you dont accept him as your lord and saviour you will rot in hell for eternity.

p.s Atheists are bad.

Originally posted by Magee
God does exist. What about when someone gets cancer but they dont die?!?! miracle. how about when theres a car crash and the person does not die!! God. When a baby is saved from a burning building, THAT IS GOD. You wanted proof, there you go so if you dont accept him as your lord and saviour you will rot in hell for eternity.

p.s Atheists are bad.

I assume you're joking

Well, apparently he likes to smoke weed, get drunk, and has newgrounds as his homepage... Evidence points one way, words another.

Originally posted by lord xyz
You haven't proven dick.

You've really mastered the art of speaking out of an entirely different orifice instead of your mouth. Use your brain more and read this again:

www.webspawner.com/users/jesusministries/jessie.html

fyi, brain tumors dont just go away like that...

Oh yeah that seems like a really impartial site

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Oh yeah that seems like a really impartial site

The thing is that these things are not verified by science because they really can't be. I think the sheer volumes of testimony say something is healing them of their afflications. Whether they be attributed to God, positive thinking, or force of will, is questioned, but it bothers me when people wave their hands at it like this. I believe that many healings are from God, but I believe that many seemingly miraculous healings come from other sources.

It must be God I mean brain tumours dont just go away like they never existed, what more proof could you ask for. Why do you people hate God so much? He is my saviour and I am saved BLESS THEE LORD!
😇

Originally posted by Magee
It must be God I mean brain tumours dont just go away like they never existed, what more proof could you ask for. Why do you people hate God so much? He is my saviour and I am saved BLESS THEE LORD!
😇

What if it was the devil that did it away with?

What if it was your own will?

What if it was luck?

God is not the only explanation.

And if it was "God", why should it be the Christian God? Why not Allah? Or Zeus?

Originally posted by Magee
It must be God I mean brain tumours dont just go away like they never existed, what more proof could you ask for. Why do you people hate God so much? He is my saviour and I am saved BLESS THEE LORD!
😇

You're a funny guy (I still think you're joking but I might be wrong)

Besides I don't hate God I just think that there are too many possible gods out there for you to say I have to pick yours

why shouldn't I worship Haruhi, Krishna, Alla, Odin, Zeus, Budda, The Holy Orgasm or what ever I want?

Originally posted by Magee
It must be God I mean brain tumours dont just go away like they never existed, what more proof could you ask for. Why do you people hate God so much? He is my saviour and I am saved BLESS THEE LORD!
😇

Just because science can't explain it at this point, doesn't mean that science can't explain it later using natural means. As a young and up and coming scientist myself, I understand the necessity of being subjective as possible when interpreting such phenomena, and being open minded enough to interpret such phenomena using all natural explinations.

Let me clarify. Science has no objective answers. Quite simply put, there are no absolute answers in science. Some may counter this fundemental-scientific logic with the argument does 2 + 2 = 4?(This argument is often times used by those who assert that mathematics, is an absolute concept used in science).

My rebuttal to this silly question is of course 2 + 2 fundementally equals 4, but only in the positional numeral system of base 13. If I were to assign another base to this axiom, then logically I'd get another fundamental answer. What I mean by this is that number schemas can only be determined as absolute, if they have a fundemental starting point to work with, or a base.

Moving on, you may now be pondering about how my above statements can be fundementally true with no absolutes existing. The answer to this question is quite simple. From the perspective of a scientist, you'd have to do a series tests to prove my statements untrue. How does one prove something untrue if they have no absolute basis to work upon? Well again, scienfically speaking, it's been fundementally accepted by scientists that one can't really prove a negative statement.

So with all that being stated, there really is no way for you to prove my above statements as untrue. However again, from the scientific perspective, you could provide a positive statement that contradicts my own, which includes evidence and proves to myself and my colleagues that your statement could be true.

We would then perform a battery of unbiased, logical, and natural tests to determine the validity of your hypothesis. But remember, even if we found your hypothesis to be the more logical one, it still wouldn't make it an absolute. It would just mean that it was the best answer we had at the time, or more specifically, the best answer that assisted us in supporting our beliefs at the time.

This is how science works. As scientists, we don't just make up things to support our opinions or beliefs. We base all of our decisions on logic and reason.

So to simplify things, science doesn't have all of the answers. But we understand that we can come up with all the answers eventually, by using the natural means made available to us. I hope this post has been informative to you(sic).

Sincerely,

Thundar

Originally posted by Up In Flames
You've really mastered the art of speaking out of an entirely different orifice instead of your mouth. Use your brain more and read this again:

www.webspawner.com/users/jesusministries/jessie.html

fyi, brain tumors dont just go away like that...

Maybr ther is another explanation, you can't just say God did it, and then stop at that, try working it out yourself if you want the answer, it's not that hard.

Originally posted by Magee
God does exist. What about when someone gets cancer but they dont die?!?! miracle. how about when theres a car crash and the person does not die!! God. When a baby is saved from a burning building, THAT IS GOD. You wanted proof, there you go so if you dont accept him as your lord and saviour you will rot in hell for eternity.

p.s Atheists are bad.

You need to stop that .... Atheists are not automatically bad people. Please cut the fkn generalizations already.

I don't make wide generalizations about Christians any more, especially horribly unfair ones like that...so I ask you to do the same.

Originally posted by Magee
It must be God I mean brain tumours dont just go away like they never existed, what more proof could you ask for. Why do you people hate God so much? He is my saviour and I am saved BLESS THEE LORD!
😇

Incorrect, sometimes brain tumours do just go away. Also, just because someone does not believe in your god, does not mean they hate anything.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You're a funny guy (I still think you're joking but I might be wrong)

Besides I don't hate God I just think that there are too many possible gods out there for you to say I have to pick yours

why shouldn't I worship Haruhi, Krishna, Alla, Odin, Zeus, Budda, The Holy Orgasm or what ever I want?

Because those other "gods" are made up and there is only one true God, that of my faith! You wanted proof i give you all proof yet still there are non believers among us, why?

And shakyaminuson, brain tumours do not just go away, it is God spreading his message of love to us! And anyone who does not beleive in the lord all mighty is an evil person most likely possesed by a demon or two 😄

Originally posted by Magee
Because those other "gods" are made up and there is only one true God, that of my faith! You wanted proof i give you all proof yet still there are non believers among us, why?

And shakyaminuson, brain tumours do not just go away, it is God spreading his message of love to us!

What proof? You saying that the others are made up? How do you know that? How do you explain healings of Hindu people? That attribute that to their Gods? How about atheists?