Atheism

Started by lord xyz17 pages

Hitler was religious, but if he isn't christian, the religion he's closest to, he's his own religion.

Originally posted by lord xyz
Hitler was religious, but if he isn't christian, the religion he's closest to, he's his own religion.

Yes, he also had his own church, worship of natue or something, or so I remember reading.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
oh dear God in heaven he's turning into Marchello

Why? Because I use absolute ideas?

Because the ideas you use have been shown to be incorrect.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
Why? Because I use absolute ideas?
Originally posted by Alliance
Because the ideas you use have been shown to be incorrect.

no and no

You were acting like marchello in that you were trying to prove that Christians were automatically good by redefining the word Christian.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Yes, he also had his own church, worship of natue or something, or so I remember reading.

Everything I ever read about Hitler was that he was Roman Catholic.

That doesn't exclude the possibility that he also incorporated other religions in to his worship, but I am unfamiliar with this.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
no and no

You were acting like marchello in that you were trying to prove that Christians were automatically good by redefining the word Christian.

I'm not trying to redefine anything. The basic rules of being Christian is to follow the Ten Commandments. I do not regard Catholicism as Christianity because they do not regard the second Commandment which states, "Do Not Worship Idols". Walk into any Catholic church and you will notice the various statues and symbolic icons misrepresenting God. As close to Godliness as the portraits are, they're still idols. Another mistake of theirs is that they hold Mary above God. Mary was an important factor in Jesus' life, but she is NOT the mother of God.

My stand against other religions is not based on my religion being better, just the truth that Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
no and no

You were acting like marchello in that you were trying to prove that Christians were automatically good by redefining the word Christian.

Oh my god, I wonder who that reminds me of.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I'm not trying to redefine anything. The basic rules of being Christian is to follow the Ten Commandments. I do not regard Catholicism as Christianity because they do not regard the second Commandment which states, "Do Not Worship Idols". Walk into any Catholic church and you will notice the various statues and symbolic icons misrepresenting God. As close to Godliness as the portraits are, they're still idols. Another mistake of theirs is that they hold Mary above God. Mary was an important factor in Jesus' life, but she is NOT the mother of God.

My stand against other religions is not based on my religion being better, just the truth that Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

The basic rules of being a Christian are as follows:

To love God.
To love thy neighbor as thyself.

These are the two greatest commands, and anyone who follows both of these, will follow every other command listed within the bible.

Originally posted by Thundar
The basic rules of being a Christian are as follows:

To love God.
To love thy neighbor as thyself.

These are the two greatest commands, and anyone who follows both of these, will follow every other command listed within the bible.

Breaking the other commandments is contrary to obedience to these two, if one breaks any commandment, one has shown that they do not completely live by these two, as they [all commandments] are in place for the benefit of man.

Originally posted by Regret
Breaking the other commandments is contrary to obedience to these two, if one breaks any commandment, one has shown that they do not completely live by these two, as they are in place for the benefit of man.

I understand what you mean, but don't forget that salvation is given only by one having faith in Christ, not by their observance of the law. And remember with this salvation comes forgiveness of any laws one has broken.

The law was put in place to show man how to be loving. But due to the nature of sin, it is impossible for one to be present before God by just fulfilling the law. Accepting Christ as your savior is the most important part. This acceptance of Christ as savior allows one to now fulfill the law, with the assistance of the Holy Spirit.

Originally posted by Thundar
I understand what you mean, but don't forget that salvation is given only by one having faith in Christ, not by their observance of the law. And remember with this salvation comes forgiveness of any laws one has broken.

The law was put in place to show man how to be loving. But due to the nature of sin, it is impossible for one to be present before God by just fulfilling the law. Accepting Christ as your savior is the most important part. This acceptance of Christ as savior allows one to now fulfill the law, with the assistance of the Holy Spirit.

But, only Christ knows perfectly what that [accepting Christ] means exactly, and only He can judge if a person has.

Originally posted by Up In Flames
I'm not trying to redefine anything. The basic rules of being Christian is to follow the Ten Commandments. I do not regard Catholicism as Christianity because they do not regard the second Commandment which states, "Do Not Worship Idols". Walk into any Catholic church and you will notice the various statues and symbolic icons misrepresenting God. As close to Godliness as the portraits are, they're still idols. Another mistake of theirs is that they hold Mary above God. Mary was an important factor in Jesus' life, but she is NOT the mother of God.

My stand against other religions is not based on my religion being better, just the truth that Jesus is the only way to Heaven.

The commandments are jewish. And if Jesus is God, like you say, then Mary is mother of God. Fail.

If Jesus is God and Mary his mother then she is the mother of God. That does not imply superior standing though. Nor divinity on her part.

Originally posted by Sanctuary
If Jesus is God and Mary his mother then she is the mother of God. That does not imply superior standing though. Nor divinity on her part.

Nor on the part of Jesus.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Nor on the part of Jesus.

No. Being God would imply divinity on the part of Jesus.

According the the Catholic church Mary is more than the mother of god, she is also sinless. Supposedly perfect like Jesus which also stems from Mithra and Dionysus Osiris.

Yah, rather pagan. Mary being sinless is simply not true though.

Originally posted by Sanctuary
No. Being God would imply divinity on the part of Jesus.

Jesus did not make himself divine, man made Jesus divine. It was a common Roman practise to make their leader divine. How many emperors where called divine?