Atheism

Started by Sanctuary17 pages
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus did not make himself divine, man made Jesus divine. It was a common Roman practise to make their leader divine. How many emperors where called divine?

Not sure. 1?

That's not my point though.

Jesus being god makes him divine.

Whether he is God is a different matter.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Yah, rather pagan. Mary being sinless is simply not true though.

Obviously. I mean she went to go visit her cousin, had an affair, came back and claimed a "spirit" inseminated her. Christianity is based on the lies of a whore.

Originally posted by Sanctuary
Not sure. 1?

That's not my point though.

Jesus being god makes him divine.

Whether he is God is a different matter.

I understand, but if he was God, couldn't he also not be divine? Who are you to limit God?

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I understand, but if he was God, couldn't he also not be divine? Who are you to limit God?

in most discussions of omnipotence even God cannot create logical impossibilites (ie being a nonDivine god)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
in most discussions of omnipotence even God cannot create logical impossibilites (ie being a nonDivine god)

That is the problem with a god outside of us. What about this, we are part of God and God is everything that has ever existed, will ever exist, never existed and never will exist and more. Paradoxes are allowed.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I understand, but if he was God, couldn't he also not be divine? Who are you to limit God?

...I dunno, I find paradoxes rather paradox.

God does not exist nor has he ever

Originally posted by TRH
God does not exist nor has he ever

and

so what?

Originally posted by TRH
God does not exist nor has he ever

I would find that statement just as true as God does exist. Paradoxes are allowed. 😄

He exists in some peoples minds

Depends what we mean by God.

God the creator is absolute. We were definately created, or have always existed, but being created seems more likely.

God the leader is almost impossible. No evidence, no leads, nothing to suggest it except story books, which contradict eachother and themselves.

Me saying we have no creator is foolish; if people thought that's what I meant when I said there is no God, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. When I talk about God, I mean the leader, not the creator. And if you think they're the same, you are misinformed.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Jesus did not make himself divine, man made Jesus divine. It was a common Roman practise to make their leader divine. How many emperors where called divine?
Yep Caesars or at least some of them were divine and Cleopatra too. At that point it was 2 gods marrying.

Re: Depends what we mean by God.

Originally posted by lord xyz
God the creator is absolute. We were definately created, or have always existed, but being created seems more likely.

God the leader is almost impossible. No evidence, no leads, nothing to suggest it except story books, which contradict eachother and themselves.

Me saying we have no creator is foolish; if people thought that's what I meant when I said there is no God, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding. When I talk about God, I mean the leader, not the creator. And if you think they're the same, you are misinformed.

So you see God as more of, let's say, a computer programmer that sets up the program's rules and regulations, then allows the program to take its course?

Originally posted by Marxman
So you see God as more of, let's say, a computer programmer that sets up the program's rules and regulations, then allows the program to take its course?
In a lesser extent, yes. Except life and computers are incredibly different, by the fact that life reproduces.

Originally posted by lord xyz
In a lesser extent, yes. Except life and computers are incredibly different, by the fact that life reproduces.

computer viruses can reproduce them selves ad infinitum given enough space

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
computer viruses can reproduce them selves ad infinitum given enough space
You've lost me.

Originally posted by lord xyz
In a lesser extent, yes. Except life and computers are incredibly different, by the fact that life reproduces.
Wait, what did I say? This post should be ignored by anyone requesting my opinion on God.

Originally posted by TRH
God does not exist nor has he ever

Yes he does, in mythology

Originally posted by lord xyz
The commandments are jewish. And if Jesus is God, like you say, then Mary is mother of God. Fail.

Of course the commandments are Jewish. Jesus was of Jewish decent also. So were many of the prophets as mentioned in the bible. But Jesus was NOT God, He was the Son of God.

Failure? Ive given you overwhelming evidence that God exists. You're the one who has yet to prove that He does not. You trying to find God is on par with a criminal trying to find the policeman. You'll never find Him as long as you continue running away from Him.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
Yes he does, in mythology

He exists in all strata of reality in Spirit.