How do you Expect others to beleive ?

Started by Fatima15 pages
Originally posted by lord xyz
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Socking. It's pretty obvious, the fact that both Fatima and silver heart both suck at english and use "believe" instead of "belief" is evident enough.

Listen kid .I dont like to insult people but thats very rude ..try to chose your words carefully next time ..And my English is not your business ..ok

Lets wait for L B ..

[QUOTE]No, she's disgusted by Islam's beliefs.

Nobody force her to read about Islam 😄

Originally posted by lord xyz
Socking. It's pretty obvious, the fact that both Fatima and silver heart both suck at english and use "believe" instead of "belief" is evident enough.

Did it ever occur to you that English might not be their native language?

Originally posted by Storm
Did it ever occur to you that English might not be their native language?
Yes, I know that, they're from UAE, I'm just stating that they don't know English well. I never said they should or anything.

Originally posted by Fatima
Listen kid .I dont like to insult people but thats very rude ..try to chose your words carefully next time ..And my English is not your business ..ok

Lets wait for L B ..

Nobody force her to read about Islam 😄

Sorry, but you're the only one here with that problem, and doesn't fix it. I guess I could've said it in a nicer way, but oh well, I am who I am.

Your point being?

Evidence is spelt with a c.

What's the actual point of this thread? If indeed there is one.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Evidence is spelt with a c.

What's the actual point of this thread? If indeed there is one.

I assume you're talking to me when I said evident, but evident is a word.

Originally posted by lord xyz
I assume you're talking to me when I said evident, but evident is a word.
No it was just a general comment. More directed at LU actually. I would have quoted him, but I don't actually care what the content of the post was.

Originally posted by Storm
Did it ever occur to you that English might not be their native language?

Still it seems possible to us, you know?

Originally posted by Alfheim
Because the religon is very intolerant, for example in an Islamic state I would get my head chopped off because I used to be msulim.

same thing happens with alot of religions (not the decapitation, the intolerance for disagreement)

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
same thing happens with alot of religions (not the decapitation, the intolerance for disagreement)
No, christianity and judaism, have decapitated non-believers, they don't now becasue it's illegal.

Originally posted by lord xyz
No, christianity and judaism, have decapitated non-believers, they don't now becasue it's illegal.

Yes, this is what Lil B refuses to acknowledge

Originally posted by lord xyz
What's the actual point of this thread? If indeed there is one.

To test the rational mindset or at least the empathy of a devout religious person, particularly a Christian or a Muslim.

I understand they have thier reasons to beleive what they beleive. I was once Christian myself, one with intense Faith.

However, I do not understand their expectancy for the rest of us to submit by reliquinshing our own beleifs and knowledge, banishing all our prior biases, and just taking thier beleifs as truth by thier word.

If they cannot supply us "infidels" with proof, then reasonably, why should we beleive ?

Nellinator seems to have gotten my point pretty well...im surprised you didn't.

And atheist were chopping heads off like crazy in the French Revolution. Its the ugly head of human nature not religion.

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
See this is a diffeance between you and me.

The difference between you and myself is that I often will joke around about Christianity and make fun of it's mythos for the sake of laughter, while you will sternly and vicously bash Islam as a religion.

I may have had my share in bashing Christianity, but I have been a LOT looser and easier in my approach than you have.

Also, I have condoned Christianity as well.

Mother Teresa happens to be my biggest role model, and guess what....shes Christian ! 😱

My family is Christian, as are most of my freinds !

I have always stated that Jesus Christ was a great man, even comparable to Buddha who I admire very very much !

I have stated how the Christian Children's Fund is one of the greatest organizations come to date.....

I have also critisized Islam, Atheism, and Gay Media...perhaps not as much as Christianity, but you can't say i target Christians....

Where have you been ?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
I have NEVER made a thread bashing Muslims, ridiculing Muslims of Islam.

You previously stated that if a Muslim is NOT violent, prejudice, and a zealot, then they are not "real muslims"

If that isn't ridiculing Muslims, I don't know what is !

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Islam is an political ideology. I know this because I bothered reseaching.

I too have done my research on Christianity. Not only it's texts, but its history, the various intepretations, and it's current evolution. Not to mention, I have been Christian for 18 years, so excuuuuuse me 🙄

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
The fact Muslims belive in Allah is irrelevant. The fact that they believe sun sets in a muddy pond, is irrelevant. I will NEVER EVER attack this or ridicule it, because that is the religious and cultural belief. And if it wasn't a violent ideology, advocating murder of infidels, non-muslims, opression of women, and its founder was not the way he was, I franly would not care.

Christianity has also murdered and tortured infidels, adopted a violent idealogy, and has oppressed women as well....

So now that it's illegal to do so, suddenly that renders Christianity's history non existant ?

Originally posted by lil bitchiness
DO NOT ever imply that my approach to Islam correlates to your approach to Christianity in any way, because frankly, that is extreamly offencive to me.

No, our approaches DO differ.....

While you are a bit more serious, hateful, and angry at Islam......and make no effort to sugarcoat, I at least joke around so that the level of aggression stays to a minimum.

Originally posted by Nellinator
And atheist were chopping heads off like crazy in the French Revolution. Its the ugly head of human nature not religion.

True, except for that fact that Atheism gives no direct permission to do these things, while Christianity and Islam do....the Bible and Quran both promote violence against those who are different.

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
True, except for that fact that Atheism gives no direct permission to do these things, while Christianity and Islam do....the Bible and Quran both promote violence against those who are different.

Not really. Punishment is only justified for breaches of Law for those who live under the Law. Since the Law has been replaced by Jesus's covenant justification for any of it is really non-existant within the Bible. However, human nature automatically rejects people for being different and you will find that no matter where you look, whether is religious or otherwise.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Not really. Punishment is only justified for breaches of Law for those who live under the Law. Since the Law has been replaced by Jesus's covenant justification for any of it is really non-existant within the Bible. However, human nature automatically rejects people for being different and you will find that no matter where you look, whether is religious or otherwise.

The new covenant is far tougher then the old one. Now if you think a sin, you have done that sin. Therefore, to say that you are not under the law is pure ignorance. Fortunately, I don't believe in any of that stuff.

The Law is different from law. The capital L differentiates between the OT Law in the Torah and current laws. Jesus did not create 'laws' really. He more created and offered a better way of living, a way to free of even thinking about sinful things. And since you correctly believe that wrongful thinking leads to wrongful actions you can see this as a good thing I am sure.

No, christianity and judaism, have decapitated non-believers, they don't now becasue it's illegal.

Individual Jews or Christians may've beheaded enemies (the only account of a Jewish beheading I am aware of is Esau getting his noggin lopped off in battle), but AFAIK there is nothing in either theology which justifies/acknowledges beheading as a formal punishment. And as Nellinator said, "atheists were chopping heads off like crazy in the French Revolution. Its the ugly head of human nature not religion."

And Jesus was also a devout believer in the Torah, and no where in the Torah is beheading justified.

Originally posted by lord xyz
they don't now becasue it's illegal.

You're full of shit.

Originally posted by Nellinator
The Law is different from law...

😱 If you say so. 😆