It's not absolute either way, and the fact that based on in-universe evidence, Sidious being the most powerful by AotC is pretty silly, it's best to assume that what Darth Sith and Darth Sexy are saying is correct.
Shut up Nebaris. You can't admit your precious Bane < AOTC Sidious even though canon agrees with it.
Originally posted by Mic AssassinSidious is the most powerful by ROTS and got even stronger by ROTJ. Again nebaris why do you keep discriminating the NEC? Several novels support this assumption
It's not absolute either way, and the fact that based on in-universe evidence, Sidious being the most powerful by AotC is pretty silly, it's best to assume that what Darth Sith and Darth Sexy are saying is correct.
Actually nebaris your saying that because you are unhappy that sidous pwns your precious darth bane, again there are several reasons to why the historian made the assumption, do you think that guy would just write some1 is teh most powerful because for the sake of writing? Of course not, Theres a reaon: simply because sidious is the strongest
Originally posted by Kadesh
Actually nebaris your saying that because you are unhappy that sidous pwns your precious darth bane, again there are several reasons to why the historian made the assumption, do you think that guy would just write some1 is teh most powerful because for the sake of writing? Of course not, Theres a reaon: simply because sidious is the strongest
Again, history inside the SW universe was known to be inaccurate and sometime incomplete, the Ultimate Visual Guide elaborates on that. The point is, people inside the SW universe didn't have the luxury of an omniscient narrator presenting them with the facts; their opinions were based off of sometimes unreliable material. In other words, any blanket statement from the NEC is an opinion, not a fact, and it's supported by material that isn't as reliable as the material that we can use, so his opinion is lesser. There's also the possibility that Voren Na'al was biased, given that he was alive during Palpatine's time, or that he might just have been a moron. The point is, the NEC argument is flawed, stop using it.
Again that sounds like a contradiction between the visual guide and the NEC, has a statement been made yet? No, and again daniel wallce confirmed it, so what if he is a employee? What ever opinions he makes become canon. Its like vaders gauntlet, one persons opinion that it was made of material which can deflect bolts become canon
Nebaris, we've been through this before, and I'm not going to debate it with you again unless you've revamped your entire argument. You can't disprove the quote or its context. "The greatest master of evil ever to use Sith power" according to the Complete Visual Guide as of AotC. This was before any of Palpatine's great political achievements, and I believe that Prodigal Knight has provided you with a complete analysis of that statement that does nothing but hurt your argument.
Either disprove it, or keep quiet. Simply protesting that "no, you're wrong!" or "Sexy is right!" doesn't drive the point home.
Get working.
Edit: By the way, your attempts to discredit and render tNEC's opinions on Sidious are pathetic at best. That the historian possessed intimate knowledge of Sidious's plots and schemes proves that he's not a moron, and he's obviously well informed. And, seriously, biased? Because he's absolutely "wanting" to declare Sidious "the most powerful" simply because they lived in the same timeframe...
Excuse me? I'm still pretty firm in my belief that it had something to do with his greatness,
Your "firmness" is irrelevent to this discussion. You're still firm that "Kas'im redirected teh uber-blast!", but that doesn't change the fact that it's not true. You've got your ass kicked up and down, left and right when it came to this argument, and that hasn't changed.
but Darth Sith has brought up a perfectly good alternative; most evil. The fact is, it's not absolute, so you fail.
Darthsith hasn't provided evidence. He could say that that statement is an obvious indicator of Sidious being anything - without proof it's pointless. When either of you lay out the proof that I have - or that Prodigal has with a full linguistic layout of the statement - then you've got a point. 'Til then, spouting "you fail!" is cute and all, but it doesn't exactly fill the "proof" portion of this debate.
So, looks like our interpretation stands 'til you can provide something that amounts to otherwise.
Your "firmness" is irrelevent to this discussion.
You being here is irrelevant, b1tch!
You're still firm that "Kas'im redirected teh uber-blast!", but that doesn't change the fact that it's not true.
No, it is true, don't be silly Gideon.
You've got your ass kicked up and down, left and right when it came to this argument, and that hasn't changed.
Not by you, Gideon. By the way, what on earth possessed you to name yourself Gideon? That's gotta be like the ugliest name I've ever heard in my life.
Darthsith hasn't provided evidence. He could say that that statement is an obvious indicator of Sidious being anything - without proof it's pointless.
Proof isn't required for such a thing, anyone with a brain can see that his interpretation is as viable as your's. Now stop being difficult for the sake of it.
When either of you lay out the proof that I have - or that Prodigal has with a full linguistic layout of the statement - then you've got a point.
What you don't seem to realise is that by just adding all of the meanings of each segment of the sentence together without looking at how they form together is a pretty inept analysis, so no, I'm not going to be stupid and ignore context. Now anyone with half a brain knows that 'the Greatest Master of Evil' can quite easily translate into 'the one most dedicated to the darkside', in this context. It all depends on what factor you apply to "master of evil", and adding in the "greatness" indicates the principal of that very factor. The point is, it's in-absolute, and I'm sticking with my interpretation.
'Til then, spouting "you fail!" is cute and all, but it doesn't exactly fill the "proof" portion of this debate.
You do realise I'm still waiting for you to quote the entire passage, right? You said you would last time Gideon, I'm still waiting, for all I know, you could be lying.
So, looks like our interpretation stands 'til you can provide something that amounts to otherwise.
I just have, you moron.