Can a Demon find Redemption ?

Started by Nellinator10 pages

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
This seems mildly insane you know. (I have nothing against it, it's just wierd.)

I kinda think so too. It's weird and vague, but it does make some sense, especially the Sea Peoples whom I knew about long before I became a Christian. The connection to the Nephilim is almost too convenient to be coincidence. Now I do believe that Satan worked to stop the Messiah from coming, the Nephilim stuff is sketchy at times though.

Whenever I think of the Nephilim, I always think of those giant stories like Jack and the beanstalk. Every story I've ever read about regarding these creatures has portrayed them in a negative light. If we just go by these stories alone, it would appear that they were rather cannabilistic in nature, often times eating their half bretheren(half bretheren being mankind of course).

Originally posted by Thundar
Whenever I think of the Nephilim, I always think of those giant stories like Jack and the beanstalk. Every story I've ever read about regarding these creatures has portrayed them in a negative light. If we just go by these stories alone, it would appear that they were rather cannabilistic in nature, often times eating their half bretheren(half bretheren being mankind of course).

I'd say its pretty easy to agree these were the types that really had it coming.

However, there is a thread about his alreadly. Please discuss it there.

I think gods prejudiced against tall people.

As for demons and redemption. There are no demons to redeem. The only demons that are, are people. AND if a god cannot forgive a poor little angel, which are what demons are supposed to of been, then god is a very poor example of a father who created them in the first place to be what they are. Make his children suffer for one mistake of thinking for them selves.

Can a demon find redemption? Ask Spawn!

Originally posted by AngryManatee
Can a demon find redemption? Ask Spawn!

God did not redeem Spawn....Mom did.....

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
God did not redeem Spawn....Mom did.....

And wasn't he human anyway?

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
And wasn't he human anyway?

What ?

Originally posted by Lord Urizen
What ?

I thought he was human originally.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
I thought he was human originally.

Yes, as Al Simmons...for more info on that, check out the Spawn Respect Thread in the comic book forums, this is getting off topic

God is good and Satan and demons are bad or are they the same entity?

The vast majority of believers see two separate forces at work—good and evil, the one emanating from God, and the other from the Devil. But the problem is not quite easy as that, for the Scriptures make it clear that God, on a number of occasions, does evil as well as good, while the Adversary, the exponent of evil, may appear at times as a messenger of light, and light in itself is good.

But, again, if we are to say that good emanates from God and evil from Satan, how are we to explain the "tree of the knowledge of good and evil" which God planted in the garden of Eden? Here we have the knowledge of the two things brought together in the same tree, which was planted by God!
But the Scriptures themselves set our minds at rest. In the book of Isaiah, chapter 45, we read, from verse 5, "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside Me. I girded thee (Cyrus —see verse 1), though thou hast not known Me, that they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside Me. I am the Lord, and there is none else. I form the light and create darkness: I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things."

God is both good and evil. God is all things.

Knowledge of evil does not equal doing evil. You fail again.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Knowledge of evil does not equal doing evil. You fail again.

God created the universe

God existd before the universe

God had absolute control over what went into the universe

There is evil in the universe

God placed evil in the universe

Knowledge of good and evil was always possessed by God, but when mankind gained this knowledge and commits it of his own volition it does not equal God doing equal.
The main point of my earlier point being that the verse she posted was not applicable to her conclusion.

Originally posted by Nellinator
Knowledge of good and evil was always possessed by God, but when mankind gained this knowledge and commits it of his own volition it does not equal God doing equal.
The main point of my earlier point being that the verse she posted was not applicable to her conclusion.

My post didn't say God was evil, it just said that he put evil into the universe.

This is kinda a confusing topic when I think about it, it's like evil existed after God's first creation.

God is all things, this is why the Bible is contradicting in this point. People try to make evil and good separate entities when they are only one. Two opposing forces, polar, Opposites of the same force. Kinda like Star Wars..lol The tree of knowledge of good and evil. One tree, two sides metaphorically. God created it and it represents the total of these acting forces. Just like "There is no place where god is not." Meaning that god is also in evil.

Knowledge of evil does not equal doing evil. You fail again.
Well according to the bible they took in this knowledge (eating the fruit) and it became part of them. It was only knowledge until they ate it, after that it became experience.

You do realize that God excludes himself from evil... Although he has knowledge of evil He does not use it. So in a way I guess He does have evil, but His perfection and love makes it so He doesn't use it.

Well if god is in everything visible and invisible, then god would be in all emotions, actions including evil. The beginning and the end. Author and the finisher and everything in between.

Being in something infers that it is a physical place. Emotions and actions of each person are not controlled by God and therefore, acts of evil are not of God.