Green Lantern movie!!!

Started by nimbus00634 pages

Ok, many interesting points so far.

So, saw it last night and...

1. Everything that had to do with the GL Corps/Oa was fantastic (except for Guardians, they were ok, not great), IMO, and I kept wanting to see more, but they didn't give it to me. Sinestro was perfect, Tomar Re and Kilowog were perfect, Abin Sur was very good, and Oa looked pretty damn cool. I have a friend who worked on the set of this movie, and he said the production used up so much of the budget on script changes they didn't have enough to produce more of the CGI enhanced Oa/GL Corps scenes.

2. Ryan Reynolds did his best, and although I thought it he was going to be worse, he was actually bearable. Having said that, he just doesn't do it for me as Hal Jordan. Maybe it's because I feel he's Van Wilder in every movie, or just an alternate version of him. The scenes with him and Carol were cheesy and felt forced. It was only saved by the fact that both actors are very good looking, so your attention is drawn to their physical features than to what they're saying. (Blake Lively is gorgeous)

3. Silly...silly....silly dialogue...see # 2.

4. Too many story lines crammed into 1 hr and 45 min. Spoiler: The script fails to explain why Sinestro puts on the Yellow Ring at the end. The average person doesn't know his reasonings, motivations etc... The story goes from Sinestro telling Hal he's so much like Abin Sur, and giving a riveting speech about Will Power to the Corps, and all of the sudden you see him putting on the ring with no hint of an explanation as to why his motivations changed. However, this is something they can fix in the sequel.

5. The physical incarnation of Parallax wasn't great. Better than the F4: ROTS Galactus cloud, but still could've been much better. They should've stuck with the Rebirth storyline, and used some sort of CGI enhanced parasite.

Overall, I enjoyed it, but still feel like it had so much wasted potential. It could've been great!

2.5/5, imo.

Originally posted by nimbus006
4. Too many story lines crammed into 1 hr and 45 min. Spoiler: The script fails to explain why Sinestro puts on the Yellow Ring at the end. The average person doesn't know his reasonings, motivations etc... The story goes from Sinestro telling Hal he's so much like Abin Sur, and giving a riveting speech about Will Power to the Corps, and all of the sudden you see him putting on the ring with no hint of an explanation as to why his motivations changed. However, this is something they can fix in the sequel.

SPOILERS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Prior to Sin putitng on the ring, the DID explain what his motives were and why.

Rewind back to when Hal was being trained. Remember the words Sin said to him? Then forward to Hals speech to the guardians and Sin. Then forward again to the end. Makes Sin and the Guardians look pretty stupid. Which is even more reason for Sinestro to do what he did.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh man your arguments are so bad. Im gna completely destroy this when I get a chance.
If by destroy you mean you're going to completely sabotage any coherent thoughts that you may have had before going into nerd rage response mode, then yes; you will destroy it.

There again, you've basically implied X1 and Iron Man 2 were better than the Star Wars prequels.
UM, Yah. I did. SO did all the critics. No one with half a brain thought the prequels could hold a candle to the original Star Wars.
So Just based on that im not sure if your worth my time.
Whew! For a minute I was really worried that you would logically try to argue my points. I can breathe now that your scathing intellect is going to bypass me for someone else. 😉

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
You're forgetting Iron Man 2, X-men 1, Spider-man 1, the Second Hulk, Blade, Kick-Ass for starters. And then there are some like the Tom Jane Punisher which I liked...but I digress....

Out of that list Il give you the last 3. Although Kick-Ass was more of a comedy (very well done though).

Iron Man 2 - Just barley saved by Robert Downey. More of an advertisement for the Avengers. Definite not a great movie.

X1 WAS SO CRAP! Such a disappointment! I mean what a stupis plot, Mags wanting to turn all of New York into mutants!

Spider-Man 1 was just about OK! Not a great superhero flick by any means! I mean do you know the hype towards that movie. He's one of the big 3 superheroes known by everyone (Supes, Spiderman and Batmen), but the only one who hadn't hit the big screen yet. If that movie was actually a good movie it would have easily been a billion dollar movie. Prob the second biggest movie ever at the time (after titanic).

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Spider-man 3 was infinitely better than Catwoman, or Batman and Robin, or Green Lantern apparently. And let's not bring up the Kilmer or Clooney Batman movies...

Oh pleaaasssee! The only thing Spiderman 3 had on any of those movies was a bigger budget. Val Kilmer's Batman was waaayyyyy better than that Spidey 3 crap. I actually loved Batman Forever as a kid. And I wasnt the only one. It was quite a big success at the time. Which is why Arny agreed to Batman and Robin, but that one was so crap it had to be reinvented.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Ah, so your standard for movies is hot chicks. Not bad to look at, but not a good gauge of movie greatness.

Thats my standard for crap movies.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
But Spidey 3 would have made a ton of money no matter how bad it might have been; it rode on the success of the first two movies.

I actually agree with you here. Spiderman 2 was a really good movie, and ended with a cliffhanger. And then there was so much hype built up over the next 3 years for Spidey 3. And from the trailer it looked like it was going to be awsome.. I was there in the cinema on opening night, but was seriously shocked at the end result.

I mean I felt like hitting someone when Peter Parker's dark side was doing that f***ing John Travolta Dance.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Uh huh...so that was what made X-3 bad....and all this time I thought it was the lack of a coherent plot, and trying to cram too many things into not enough time....and a horrid script.

You have a serious reading problem. Why dnt you go learn to read before arguing next time. I said the Cyclops thing MADE IT EVEN MORE CRAP IF THATS POSSIBLE!!

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
You say that as if I didn't know that already. I do accept it and am actually glad for Chris Nolan and that franchise. I'm more than over it also. Glad DC can actually have one leg to stand on after all.

LOL @ ONE LEG! That "One Leg" is the biggest superhero franchise of all time. Marvel and its numerous comic book movies is actually harming the Comic book movie franchise as noted by Mathew Vaughn, people are getting fed up of it.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Superman sure hasn't helped them lately.

Superman Returns acutally had good reviews. But I think it was set up more for sequels. But they just fired Singer because the Name Superman is expected to bring in A LOT more money. But we've had Smallville all these years. Ah yes DC actually can make a superhero live action series.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
This makes you sound like one of those fabled "kids" you are so apt to mention. Spider-man 1 and 2 were great, X-1 and 2 were great, Iron Man 1 was great and 2 was good.

X1 was a complete disappointment. And Spidey 1 was hardly a classic.

Iron Man 2 was great? LOL Get outta here.

Originally posted by CPT Space Bomb
Actually, right now it looks like this is the Summer of Marvel. Both Thor and X-men have had critical and financial success so far, while Green Lantern is stinking up the joint by way of review scores. Perhaps it will end up making lots of money. But Marvel is actually pumping out fewer bad movies now and making quality movies. If anything, Captain America looks to seal the deal later this summer....cannot wait.

Actually Il give you that 2 of the handful of good Marvel movies have been released this summer. But X-Men first class isnt doing too well financially, which it really should be considering the quality of the movie.

You know why? Because like Mathew Vaghn himself has predicted, people are getting fed up of Superhero movies (Due to all Marvels crap ones).

Thats also why Green Lantern is struggling, the 3rd superhero movie out this year already! People are fed up. Also with GL they were a bit silly spending so much money on it not knowing how it was gna do.

Oh and trust me Captain America is gna flop! U can hold me to that!

Originally posted by jrodslam
SPOILERS>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Prior to Sin putitng on the ring, the DID explain what his motives were and why.

Rewind back to when Hal was being trained. Remember the words Sin said to him? Then forward to Hals speech to the guardians and Sin. Then forward again to the end. Makes Sin and the Guardians look pretty stupid. Which is even more reason for Sinestro to do what he did.

SPOILER!

I see what you're referring too, but it's not very clear. The average person won't pick up on that. Plus, it gets even more confusing when Sinestro starts saying at the end how great the GL Corps is, and how will power is the dominant force in the Universe, and that it can overcome anything.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Actually Il give you that 2 of the handful of good Marvel movies have been released this summer. But X-Men first class isnt doing too well financially, which it really should be considering the quality of the movie.

You know why? Because like Mathew Vaghn himself has predicted, people are getting fed up of Superhero movies (Due to all Marvels crap ones).

Thats also why Green Lantern is struggling, the 3rd superhero movie out this year already! People are fed up. Also with GL they were a bit silly spending so much money on it not knowing how it was gna do.

Oh and trust me Captain America is gna flop! U can hold me to that!

Actually, the reason they're not doing well is because of the sheer volume of overall "blockbusters" (not just super hero movies) being released this summer. Too many big budget films.

And I wouldn't say they're not doing well. Thor has surpassed it's budget big time, and X-Men is doing decent business as well.

Originally posted by nimbus006
SPOILER!

I see what you're referring too, but it's not very clear. The average person won't pick up on that. Plus, it gets even more confusing when Sinestro starts saying at the end how great the GL Corps is, and how will power is the dominant force in the Universe, and that it can overcome anything.

SPOILER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

True, but at the same time in his speech, he mentioned this being along with the yellow power of fear powerful enough to take out entire civilizations and powerful enough to take out their best warrior in Abin. They needed combined efforts of the GL's.

Basically in the end Sin is taking the easy way to gaining more power. He found out that it was Abin ALONE who defeated Parallax the first time, then Abins replacement rather than his student(which was him) to do it ALONE again the second time. Sin knew this considering when he was training Hal, he was able to smell/see/sense his fear he had of Sinestro much moreso than against Kilowog. In the end, it all added up.

Originally posted by nimbus006
Actually, the reason they're not doing well is because of the sheer volume of overall "blockbusters" (not just super hero movies) being released this summer. Too many big budget films.

And I wouldn't say they're not doing well. Thor has surpassed it's budget big time, and X-Men is doing decent business as well.

Oh Thor has done really well. No doubt about that. Iron Man and Thor are the 2 most successful B-List comic book heroes which have made it to the big screen.

Im just saying theres only so many of these kind of movies that people will watch.

First Class is doing alrite, but no where near as well as previous comic book movies.

Considering how good First Class is, it should be bringing in much more money.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh Thor has done really well. No doubt about that. Iron Man and Thor are the 2 most successful B-List comic book heroes which have made it to the big screen.

Im just saying theres only so many of these kind of movies that people will watch.

First Class is doing alrite, but no where near as well as previous comic book movies.

Considering how good First Class is, it should be bringing in much more money.

Four superhero related movies in one summer was probably pushing it. Don't believe there have ever been as many, but it's how it worked out. Two years ago, Wolverine was the only one of the spring & summer, with Watchmen coming in late winter.

Next year there will be three for certain for spring & summer(Avengers, Amazing Spider Man, The Dark Knight Rises) while Man Of Steel comes at Christmas. If Wolverine 2 manages to get the cameras rolling soon, please stick it in the fall season.

Unfortunately, despite the wreckage of many big budget films crashing into each other one weekend after another, studio execs have been keeping the same course since the mid 90's, trying to maximize that opening weekend above everything else. They will only back off producing so many mega movies when they bottom line becomes untenable.

I thought Green Lantern was a fine movie. I dont know what so many critics were expecting from such a complex character. The movie was put together very well with great pacing and story development.

This was not at all a bad movie. It has many flaws, granted, but should not be rated less than 65% or even 70%, because at the end of the day was entertaining and accomplish the goal of introducing the character and its universe to the audience who left the theater wanting to see more.

Don't know what critics saw, or maybe didn't want to see... It is far from being the Dark knight, or the first two superman films but is also far from being Elektra or Jonah Hex.

To be fair, GL movie is below the first Iron Man, Spiderman II , Xmen II, Xmen first class, but is slightly above of Thor, both hulk movies, Xmen and the first spiderman, and considering the Green Lantern universe is far more complex than any of the previous, I'd say WB/DC made a good job, again with flaws and far from perfect, but got the job done.

I'm thinking being the 3rd superheroe movie in a very short period hurt the way critics saw and rate the movie. It is like critics had their annual dose of superheroe movies and they can't take any more, or at least that's you can deduce for the way some of the reviews are written, and by the fact that many of the complaints are unfounded and evidence that some of them did not really pay attention to the movie.

The film deserves more than what is getting, I hope they do enough money to have a sequel where they can do a better film without the burden that is having to provide an origin story, have some fighting and present a vast and complex universe. Hope that people go to see it based on audience rating and not only on critics rating.

I just came back from seeing it. While it wasn't the disaster I half expected, it is a bit of a mess, narratively. It's like the crew over at Spill.com said - the biggest villain of this film is the one who did the editing (Stuart Baird) because the pieces of the good movie this could have been are scattered on the floor of the editor's suite.
Some films are bad because they are badly conceived from the start ( see Batman And Robin) Other films are because while they have honorable intentions, they are scattered and can't pull it all together, being wrong in so many small ways. Watching this reminded me most of seeing The Shadow and Judge Dredd the first time; films that tried but were just missed opportunities, in the end.

But at least they made fun of the mask. Carol and Tom recognize Hal without it easily! I said it would look silly.

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
I thought Green Lantern was a fine movie. I dont know what so many critics were expecting from such a complex character. The movie was put together very well with great pacing and story development.

How it was "put together" was the worst part of the movie. The only thing worse than the score, was the pacing and editing which were monstrously bad. The movie is so disjointed it's shocking that anyone who worked on it had any experience at all in the film industry.

I think the main problem of the movie can be summarized in poor edition. Is like they had a time limit and they cut off scenes randomly to meet the time frame. The movie felt too short and too rushed for the same reason.

Not a masterpiece, not the best comic book superheroe movie, but not the worst either, is quite enjoyable and audience leaving the theater is looking forward for the sequel, certainly do not deserves a 25% in Rotten Tomatoes, should be at least what is getting from the audience, around 63%.

I felt like this green lantern film is the star trek film wannabe, and failed miserably
too much CGI, computerized
anyway I'm very dissapointed at dc's film this year, marvel got 3 movies this year and it seems like green lantern isn't better than any of these three

True I don't think it was anywhere near what Thor was and I feel the same about First Class was better too. They also have what 3 or 4 GL one shot comics that are part of the movies storyline?? Maybe they should have saved some of those stories for the GL movie itself? I think saving Abin Sur's and Tomar-Re's for the movie would have added a lot more and we could have seen Oa more. Another thing I liked better about Thor is the costumes, they looked real, the GL suits looked alright but could have been better.

Btw I hope they don't begin using the same suits in the regular comic's like in the film, wouldn't be a good idea. But from what I've seen in the Flashpoint Abin Sur The Green Lantern #1 it looks like they are going to do that... 😖

The worst thing about it is was based on Green Lantern Secret Origin, which was phenomenal... actually that isn't the worst thing, the real worst thing is that Geoff Johns worked on this movie and this is still what we got.

Originally posted by MrMind
I felt like this green lantern film is the star trek film wannabe, and failed miserably
too much CGI, computerized
anyway I'm very dissapointed at dc's film this year, marvel got 3 movies this year and it seems like green lantern isn't better than any of these three

Finally saw it and it wasn't bad at all. I enjoyed it and so did my roommate who hardly knew anything about the character. Yes, it had a lot of special affects, but it's space cheese, so it kinda had to. Awesome special effects, IMO.

I personally enjoyed this movie. The best bits are definitely non Earth based; whenever the movie went into space it just picked up the pace so much more and felt more like what Green Lantern is about. If they had more Oa and space adventure then it would be alot better than it currently is but hey thats what the sequel (if it makes enough) is for 🙂

Its not the best superhero movie but its certainly no worse nor less enjoyable than Iron Man 2 I feel.

I was at my friend's house the last couple days, so I didn't bother reading your tripe. I will now however, respond accordingly.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Out of that list Il give you the last 3. Although Kick-Ass was more of a comedy (very well done though).
Iron Man 2 - Just barley saved by Robert Downey. More of an advertisement for the Avengers. Definite not a great movie.
X1 WAS SO CRAP! Such a disappointment! I mean what a stupis plot, Mags wanting to turn all of New York into mutants!
Wrong, he wanted to turn the leaders of the world into mutants. That way, their cause would be, whether they liked it or not; the mutants' cause. And it was a well reviewed movie and a good movie. Just because you didn't like it doesn't make it good.

Spider-Man 1 was just about OK! Not a great superhero flick by any means! I mean do you know the hype towards that movie. He's one of the big 3 superheroes known by everyone (Supes, Spiderman and Batmen), but the only one who hadn't hit the big screen yet. If that movie was actually a good movie it would have easily been a billion dollar movie. Prob the second biggest movie ever at the time (after titanic).
The Spider-man movies made a TON of money. Spidey-1 made over 400 million just in the States. And they really ushered in the "Yes, we can make any super hero movie" attitude that Hollywood soon adopted. It WAS a very well received movie critically as well. Again, just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it wasn't a good movie.

Oh pleaaasssee! The only thing Spiderman 3 had on any of those movies was a bigger budget. Val Kilmer's Batman was waaayyyyy better than that Spidey 3 crap. I actually loved Batman Forever as a kid. And I wasnt the only one. It was quite a big success at the time. Which is why Arny agreed to Batman and Robin, but that one was so crap it had to be reinvented.
I would watch Spider-man 3 fifty times before I watched Batman and Robin OR Batman Forever. Those movies almost destroyed Batman's movie image. He's lucky Christopher Nolan is a genius.

I actually agree with you here. Spiderman 2 was a really good movie, and ended with a cliffhanger. And then there was so much hype built up over the next 3 years for Spidey 3. And from the trailer it looked like it was going to be awsome.. I was there in the cinema on opening night, but was seriously shocked at the end result.

I mean I felt like hitting someone when Peter Parker's dark side was doing that f***ing John Travolta Dance.

Yes, there were definitely bad things about Spider-man 3. However, and I can't stress this enough, it is still far superior to alot of comic book films.

You have a serious reading problem. Why dnt you go learn to read before arguing next time. I said the Cyclops thing MADE IT EVEN MORE CRAP IF THATS POSSIBLE!!
Yes, it is very hard to read through your horrid punctuation and grammatical errors on a bit by bit basis; let alone a whole page worth of childlike ranting.

LOL @ ONE LEG! That "One Leg" is the biggest superhero franchise of all time. Marvel and its numerous comic book movies is actually harming the Comic book movie franchise as noted by Mathew Vaughn, people are getting fed up of it.
A) you just proved my point that DC only has the Batman franchise to stand on.
B) You're wrong about Marvel's movies. The two of three that have been released so far have been great. If Captain America does well like it's expected to, then that will be three great Marvel movies to one horrid DC movie this year. And WHO'S ruining the comic book industry?? That's what I thought.

Superman Returns acutally had good reviews. But I think it was set up more for sequels. But they just fired Singer because the Name Superman is expected to bring in A LOT more money. But we've had Smallville all these years. Ah yes DC actually can make a superhero live action series.
Face the facts, people are tiring of Superman. They have been for a long time. Death of Superman was made to prevent his actual financial death. Now the renumbering (which is actually a great idea) and restructuring of DC is aimed at helping their comics once again. Superman Returns was not that good critically, and really flopped financially. It did alright with sales, but no where near enough to cover the cost they used to make it. Superman is MIA in regards to movies lately. Hopefully the reboot will be a true (spiritual) successor to the original movies.

X1 was a complete disappointment. And Spidey 1 was hardly a classic.
Again, moviegoers and critics disagree with you on both points.

Iron Man 2 was great? LOL Get outta here.
Who needs to learn to read now? I said Iron Man 2 was good. I said the first one was great.

Actually Il give you that 2 of the handful of good Marvel movies have been released this summer. But X-Men first class isnt doing too well financially, which it really should be considering the quality of the movie.
Actually, it's doing fine for the costs used to make it. I don't judge all movies based on if they can make a billion dollars worldwide like you do.

You know why? Because like Mathew Vaghn himself has predicted, people are getting fed up of Superhero movies (Due to all Marvels crap ones).
You're putting words in his mouth. He never said it was due to Marvel's stinkers. Marvel has more good comic movies than DC. And FAR MORE VARIETY. Name a big DC character other than the big three that has their own movie. Now think of Marvel. Hell, I'm glad I'm a Marvel fan. At least my company tries to put out movies for their fans, unlike DC.

Thats also why Green Lantern is struggling, the 3rd superhero movie out this year already! People are fed up. Also with GL they were a bit silly spending so much money on it not knowing how it was gna do.
No, Green Lantern is struggling because it was a overpriced, special effect heavy movie with not enough direction and very little soul. It was a messy, horridly reviewed movie that people talked about being horrid. Therefore, word of mouth spread and people decided they didn't want to waste their time on it. Maybe, had it been as good as Thor, for example; it would have sold better.

Oh and trust me Captain America is gna flop! U can hold me to that!
I will definitely hold you to that. Captain America is going to do quite well I'd imagine. It's coming out in the most patriotic month of the year and there looks to be little competition with it; especially in terms of Super hero competition.