There's only one instance of that actually working - Midnighter is often the offender, his abilities aren't purely defensive. I'm sure srank will post it eventually... he does it a lot. Because Midnighter killed Grifter. Yes I went there.
And that would require Daredevil knowing what Midnighter's abilities are.
Originally posted by Metalmanx
Soljer, I completely understand how Midnighter's powers work now.My only question is, how does he calculate victories if he DOES NOT know he can win?
Hypothetically-speaking, if DD suddenly had Sentry powers, but didn't look any different or give off any different signs, Midnighter would calculate incorrect strategies and be screwed.
Hm. Better way to put it. If MN'er just plain doesn't know what his opponent is capable of (he has no clue as to their powers/abilities), then how can he calculate a win? According to your logic, he can't unless he knows he can win. There are avenues he could take, but at the same time, he's basically lost all sense of direction. He doesn't know which way leads where. Not knowing his opponent's powers/abilities, it's analogous to dropping Midnighter in the desert with no map and no landmarks to help him, then tell him to find the way out. Of course there are millions, even billions, of different routes to take, but without any sort of hint/knowledge at all, he would have no clue as to which route to take. See what I mean?
Now, back on topic, not knowing DD's superhuman powers, how can he calculate a win against him at all?
You're looking at it far too simply.
Midnighter doesn't calculate a million ways the battle could go, and THEN go into the battle.
He calculates WHILE he battles.
I'm not sure what all would be common knowledge about Daredevil, but let's assume ABSOLUTELY nothing.
Midnighter is meeting Matt for the first time. Midnighter sizes him up, calculates, throws a punch, which is dodged with an ease that would indicate supernatural speed. All the calculations are IMMEDIATELY (nearly instantaneously) redone, taking into account the new information.
He needn't ever know about the radar sense, as it will have little impact on the actual fight - the radar sense is, more or less, just one more explanation for enhanced reflexes. Which can be easily observed and dealt with.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
There's only one instance of that actually working - Midnighter is often the offender, his abilities aren't purely defensive. I'm sure srank will post it eventually... he does it a lot. Because Midnighter killed Grifter. Yes I went there.
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Originally posted by xmarksthespot
IMHO, no you don't fully get it. Because you keep asking this: He doesn't need to know that DD has a radar sense. Any move DD makes, Midnighter can run a million scenarios to find a counter - and as DD's moves can be countered, then he will find a counter.DD's powers are effectively physical. He can't phase. He can't teleport. He can't use TK.
And they're not to the extent that they're not counterable. He isn't the Flash. He isn't Superman.
And they're inferior to Midnighter in some categories.
Furthermore Daredevil's altered senses would be detectable to MN as altered neural activity anyway.
http://static.flickr.com/56/128736805_8356e3818a_o.jpgErgo Midnighter wins.
Thank you!!!! We actually agree on something, thats 99% of what I have been trying to say for ages.
He doesnt need to know DD has radar sense and he isnt as fast as The Flash.
Originally posted by Soljer
Then it wouldn't matter.Midnighter has taken the offensive plenty of times in the past, and has functioned PERFECTLY.
Many Showings > Few Showings > One Showing.
well, i mean
itd be different if maybe say, batman decided to be recactive to midnighter
but in this case
i guess my ultimate quesiton is what is the extent on average (without exadurateing, and im not saying that you were gona)
what honsetly is the average extent of Midnighters speed
(i saw that one scan earlier but i realize sometimes comics just do things to make things look cool)
becuase the only way i see midnighter for sure takeing a majority is if hes just flat out TOO fast
Originally posted by juggernaut66666😊
Midnighter vs Tanks
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