Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
It's very obvious by your description of the Gl's uses of thier rings that oyu dont' read them much. No need to argue any further. your going off of like the superfreinds or something.
It obvious that you don't read Any Gl titles, because it's never been stated that oan energy can't be absorbed because of will power.
It's best you don't go any further. I'm sure you don't want to be owned yet again in a debate.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
It obvious that you don't read Any Gl titles, because it's never been stated that oan energy can't be absorbed because of will power.It's best you don't go any further. I'm sure you don't want to be owned yet again in a debate.
Actually I read GL. And It's obvious You don't read GL. YOu think surfer just Absorbs thier constructs. As if that is all they can do. As if he just has the will power to do that. What's to stop Hal or kyle from absorbing surfer into thier rings?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Hal willed himself from death and Kyle willed Oblivion into existance. He also willed himself to hold a big bang. By the very nature of thier powers, thier wills fuel the outrageous feats they do. Surfer's will does not.
Okay, so their will fuels their power. That's great. Surfer's power doesn't work that way. So, I still fail to see how this proves their will to be greater than SS.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Surfer didn't absorb that brick to the head or that lighting that storm owned him with.
Spectre got pwned by a Batkick, among other things during Ostrander's run.
Sorry, but that game is stupid. Wonder Woman could be killed by a toothpick by Bullseye because she has a problem with pointed objects.
Originally posted by Beta Ray Howard
Spectre got pwned by a Batkick, among other things during Ostrander's run.Sorry, but that game is stupid. Wonder Woman could be killed by a toothpick by Bullseye because she has a problem with pointed objects.
Um excuse me? Aren't we talking about Gl's and surfer? How about sticking with the current debate.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Actually I read GL. And It's obvious You don't read GL. YOu think surfer just Absorbs thier constructs. As if that is all they can do. As if he just has the will power to do that. What's to stop Hal or kyle from absorbing surfer into thier rings?
Thats what you say every time you fail to bring proof to a debate. It gets old, put up or shut up.
Whats keeping Surfer from absorbing oan energy. You don't have a single shred of evidence that states Surfer can't absorb the energy produced from a GL.
If you would have read Annihilation, you would have read and noticed that Galactus restored Surfer will to fight. Surfer then went on to destroy a planet to prove a point.
Nothing besides the fact that I doubt it's been done to someone on Surfers power lv. However one could ask if Surfer could drain the energy from Hal's ring seeing as how it has a limited power source.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
Thats what you say every time you fail to bring proof to a debate. It gets old, put up or shut up.Whats keeping Surfer from absorbing oan energy. You don't have a single shred of evidence that states Surfer can't absorb the energy produced from a GL.
If you would have read Annihilation, you would have read and noticed that Galactus restored Surfer will to fight. Surfer then went on to destroy a planet to prove a point.
Nothing besides the fact that I doubt it's been done to someone on Surfers power lv. However one could ask if Surfer could drain the energy from Hal's ring seeing as how it has a limited power source.
And what is to stop Hal from simply absorbing Surfer's entire being into his ring? According to the way you see the fight, Nothing. Every single thing surfer has done, Hal and kyle are capable of. The reason people dont' absorb energy from other energy manipulators is becuz they both manipulate energy. the reason surfer can't turn thanos into stone is becuz thanos also has this ability. The Gl's also have transmutation ability. It's why things like absorbing energy and matter manip does not work. Unless of course you concede that Hal and Kyle win with absorbing surfer into thier rings which is perfectly viabable.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
He was bringing up low end feats for a character just as you did.
NO actually I brought up low end feats becuz someone said Hal got Hogged by Superman. I was just doing what someone else did. Next time they should stick to the characters that we were debating. Not characters that have nothing to do with the thread.
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
And what is to stop Hal from simply absorbing Surfer's entire being into his ring? According to the way you see the fight, Nothing. Every single thing surfer has done, Hal and kyle are capable of. The reason people dont' absorb energy from other energy manipulators is becuz they both manipulate energy. the reason surfer can't turn thanos into stone is becuz thanos also has this ability. The Gl's also have transmutation ability. It's why things like absorbing energy and matter manip does not work. Unless of course you concede that Hal and Kyle win with absorbing surfer into thier rings which is perfectly viabable.
I don't know, like I said I'm unaware if Hal has done so to someone on Surfers lv.
Yes, and apart from creating large hands and such, Surfer has done nearly everything Hal or Kyle has.
Ego has the ability to manipulate energy on a vast scale, BRB has manipulated energy on Ego's entire body. Thus your above point is moot.
Surfer doesn't turn Thanos into stone is because he can't. A Gl, Thor, or any other top tier couldn't either.
Surfer too has transmutation abilities.
If you bring forth proof of Hal and Kyle doing such a feat I couldn't argue against it.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
I don't know, like I said I'm unaware if Hal has done so to someone on Surfers lv.Yes, and apart from creating large hands and such, Surfer has done nearly everything Hal or Kyle has.
Ego has the ability to manipulate energy on a vast scale, BRB has manipulated energy on Ego's entire body. Thus your above point is moot.
Surfer doesn't turn Thanos into stone is because he can't. A Gl, Thor, or any other top tier couldn't either.
Surfer too has transmutation abilities.
If you bring forth proof of Hal and Kyle doing such a feat I couldn't argue against it.
Kyle transmuted himself to have TK abilities. Hal transmuted the shaggy man once. He shrunk him if I"m not mistaken. The point I"m trying to say is that you can't just say Surfer absorbs thier constructs and act like they don't have absorbtion powers of thier own. Or that he would absorb all of them and not get hit. Or that they couldn't absorb surfer into the ring. On one hand your saying, have they ever absorbed anyone as powerful as surfer and yet turning around and saying surfer will absorb thier constructs and I"m sayin, when has surfer ever absorbed a contruct or energy from beings so powerful and will ful as either of these Lanterns?
Originally posted by nvrbeenwthagirl
Kyle transmuted himself to have TK abilities. Hal transmuted the shaggy man once. He shrunk him if I"m not mistaken. The point I"m trying to say is that you can't just say Surfer absorbs thier constructs and act like they don't have absorption powers of thier own. Or that he would absorb all of them and not get hit. Or that they couldn't absorb surfer into the ring. On one hand your saying, have they ever absorbed anyone as powerful as surfer and yet turning around and saying surfer will absorb thier constructs and I"m sayin, when has surfer ever absorbed a contruct or energy from beings so powerful and will ful as either of these Lanterns?
How do you transmute your self to have TK abilities? why wouldn't he lift it with his ring? I would like to see scans of this.
Shrinking someone doesn't equate to transmutation.
Their absorption abilities have nothing to do with his.
I never said it couldn't be done, I just asked for proof that I haven't and most likely won't be given.
Surfer has absorbed things with greater energy than constructs, such as large blast, and even manipulated and absorbed Quasar's constructs. Quasar is most likely at or above a top tier Gl.
You haven't dealt with the fact that Surfer could drain Hal's ring.
Originally posted by Soujaboy
How do you transmute your self to have TK abilities? why wouldn't he lift it with his ring? I would like to see scans of this.Shrinking someone doesn't equate to transmutation.
Their absorption abilities have nothing to do with his.
I never said it couldn't be done, I just asked for proof that I haven't and most likely won't be given.
Surfer has absorbed things with greater energy than constructs, such as large blast, and even manipulated and absorbed Quasar's constructs. Quasar is most likely at or above a top tier Gl.
You haven't dealt with the fact that Surfer could drain Hal's ring.
ANd you haven't dealt with the fact that the rngs are made to absorb the power from batteries. a ring even absorbed the power of a cosmic cube. surfer is a living battery and subject to being drained just as much as hal's ring is. it would be a tug of war
Being more powerful doesn't mean Surfer wouldn't beat them, it means they are more powerful.
There are a few characters who are way above Surfer, but he'd still beat them because of his speed. Superman has that problem, in my eyes, he's a flying brick, but he'd still beat someone who is many times more powerful....
Like Ragman.