Who better to tier heroes . . .?

Started by Validus48 pages

Originally posted by Juntai
As if powerset means anything to Superman.

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Originally posted by NiñoAraña
i'm pretty sure when you amp something it's for a short time, so when you "amp" something forever, it's not amped, it's natural

get me?

yes and no. if he waste to much energy he no longer amped. Also he keeps him self amped when he think there may be trouble. When sleep or not in a possiable dangerous location then he remains at his normal.

Originally posted by capt it up
yes and no. if he waste to much energy he no longer amped. Also he keeps him self amped when he think there may be trouble. When sleep or not in a possiable dangerous location then he remains at his normal.
ok, i mostly get you now lol

Originally posted by Validus
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It had to be said.

Originally posted by Redatom65
next, I don't think Drax should be considered Herald. I'm sure Mongul, Wonder Woman, Hawksmoor, and surely captain atom can beat him. He should be sub herald

I stand by this remark...

PreCrisisSuperman

SubSkyfather ✅

Originally posted by NiñoAraña
ok, i mostly get you now lol

lol

Originally posted by Juntai
It had to be said.
It is true though. Superman does more with less.

But we all know thats mostly because DC can't have Superman loosing too much and not because of actual power level 😖hifty:

I agree with Drax being under Herald. Even other versions weren't really any better than, say, Hulk.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
SUB-SKYFATHER
Despero, Thanos, The Keeper, Dr. Strange (Classic), The Doctor, Mangog, Dr. Fate, Ion (current), The General (Shaggy Man), Tyrant (powered down), The Mask, onslaught, gog, Superman 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Validus, High Evolutionary

HERALD
morg, terrax, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), thor, sentry, Surfer, Adam Warlock, Loki, Gladiator, Quasar, Majestic, Apollo, Graviton, Orion, Infinity-Man, Absorbing Man (sans CIS), Superman, Cpt. Marvel (DC), Superman Blue/Red, Beta Ray Bill, Hyperion, Doomsday, Binary, General Zod, Mon-El, Supergirl, Stardust, Black Adam, Eradicator, Firelord, Original Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Fernus, Supreme (Leifeld), genis-vell, red shift, waverider, The Fallen One, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), Sinestro, Cyborg Superman, Spartan 3.0, Void, Drax the Destroyer, [b]Runner

SUB-HERALD
magneto, apocalypse, , captain atom, sersi, Nate Grey, Hulk, Mandarin, Holocaust, Ultron, Super Skrull, FP Cable, Black Bolt, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Juggernaut, Vision, Mar-vell, Breach, He-Man, Hercules (Immortal), Raven, Aquaman, Superboy, Animal Man, Darkness, Dr. Doom (w/magic), Wonder Woman, Invincible, Steel, Mimic (Exiles), Shaman, Sasquatch, Vulcan, Karate Kid, Ultra Boy, Matrix Supergirl, Dr. Light, Pitt, Union, prime, grodd, hector hammond, dr polaris, kalibak, maxima, mongul, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Jade, Green Lantern (Guy/John), Selene (External), Circe (DC), Jericho, Ronan the Accusor, Super Skrull

MID-TIER
ironman, colossus, thing, starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Namor, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Storm, Maul, ms. marvel, Blastaar, Cpt. Britain, Cyborg, Donna Troy, Wondergirl, Gamora, Hawkman/Girl, Invisible Woman, Guardian I, Classic Nova, Deathlok, Speedfreek, She-Hulk, Atom Smasher, War Machine, Human Torch, The Tick, Thunderstrike, Toxin, Lightning Lad, Havok, Mr. Sinister, Omega Red, Beast Boy, metallo, box, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage, Atlas, Mister Hyde, Box, Attuma, Thunder, Grace Choi, Shift, Power Girl, Aegis, Mary Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr, Bishop, Crystal, Electro

ENHANCED
wolverine, killer croc, luke cage, deathstroke, spider-man, Midnighter, angel, sabertooth, Morlun, Beast, Cyclops, Drizzt Do'Urden, Bruenor Battlehammer, Wulfgar, Azrael, Lady Deathstrike, Iron Fist, Beast, Bullseye, Gambit, Taskmaster, Vulture, Mysterio, Vermin, Man-Bat, Orka Humbug, Spiderwoman, Arachne, Arana, Kingpin, Silver Samurai, Ravager

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, Wildcat, Taskmaster, Elektra, Batgirl, Black Panther, Nick Fury, Mystique, Punisher, joker, penguin, riddler, Nomad, Nuke, Ra's Al Ghul, Arsenal/Red Arrow, Black Cat, Catwoman, Echo, Misty Knight, Shang Chi, Coleen Wing, Black Widow, Robin, White Tiger [/B]

bumping the list

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I agree with Drax being under Herald. Even other versions weren't really any better than, say, Hulk.

It depends on which version your talking about. If your talking about "Classic" Drax(that was smart but not that strong), then yeah he'd be under herald. Dumb Drax(even without, but especially with the Power Gem) was DEFINITELY herald level. As for the new Drax, I really haven't seen enough of his abilities to properly gauge his power.

Originally posted by leonidas
1. herald
2. sub-herald
3. mid-tier
4. enhanced
5. street

I like your terminology and 5 basic levels is good. The only thing that bothers me is "mid-tier," whereas the other levels have cooler names. Something like, "extreme," might fit better, if you know what I mean.

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Extreme would be cool....

....if this were 1997. 😛

The Flash is over rated, but I can see why he's there for his potential and some of his feats reasonably put him there. has Bart Allen shown anything to put him on herald level? He too, along with Drax should be lower I think. You guys have told me Apollo is over rated and is sub-herald, but fine enough. ABsorbing mna has had some impressive feats, but he got handed to by Sentry, he should also be lower. I'll have more complaints for later 😛

Originally posted by Mindship
I like your terminology and 5 basic levels is good. The only thing that bothers me is "mid-tier," whereas the other levels have cooler names. Something like, "extreme," might fit better, if you know what I mean.

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How about city leveler?

Originally posted by Validus
Extreme would be cool....

....if this were 1997. 😛

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Originally posted by Validus
Extreme would be cool....

....if this were 1997. 😛

hey, lay-off my man mindship!

but yeah, i'm not diggin' 'extreme'. it's like, kinda square, daddio. 😄

feel free to rename it something cool though, ms! 🙂

as far as drax -- who the hell put him at herald?? we have one marvel writer/editor saying wolverine and him would be a good match, and next thing i see he's herald??

that will require an edit. maybe leave drax off until we see something more definite in terms of power level.

SUB-SKYFATHER
Despero, Thanos, The Keeper, Dr. Strange (Classic), The Doctor, Mangog, Dr. Fate, Ion (current), The General (Shaggy Man), Tyrant (powered down), The Mask, onslaught, gog, Superman 1 Million, Sentinel (Alan Scott), Validus, High Evolutionary

HERALD
morg, terrax, Green Lantern (Hal, Kyle, Alan), thor, sentry, Surfer, Adam Warlock, Loki, Gladiator, Quasar, Majestic, Apollo, Graviton, Orion, Infinity-Man, Absorbing Man (sans CIS), Superman, Cpt. Marvel (DC), Superman Blue/Red, Beta Ray Bill, Hyperion, Doomsday, Binary, General Zod, Mon-El, Supergirl, Stardust, Black Adam, Eradicator, Firelord, Original Lobo, Martian Manhunter, Fernus, Supreme (Leifeld), genis-vell, red shift, waverider, The Fallen One, The Flash III (Wally West), The Flash IV (Bart Allen), Sinestro, Cyborg Superman, Spartan 3.0, Void, Runner

SUB-HERALD
magneto, apocalypse, , captain atom, sersi, Nate Grey, Hulk, Mandarin, Holocaust, Ultron, Super Skrull, FP Cable, Black Bolt, Engineer, Jack Hawksmoor (in city), Juggernaut, Vision, Mar-vell, Breach, He-Man, Hercules (Immortal), Raven, Aquaman, Superboy, Animal Man, Darkness, Dr. Doom (w/magic), Wonder Woman, Invincible, Steel, Mimic (Exiles), Shaman, Sasquatch, Vulcan, Karate Kid, Ultra Boy, Matrix Supergirl, Dr. Light, Pitt, Union, prime, grodd, hector hammond, dr polaris, kalibak, maxima, mongul, The Flash II (Barry Allen), Jade, Green Lantern (Guy/John), Selene (External), Circe (DC), Jericho, Ronan the Accusor, Super Skrull

MID-TIER
ironman, colossus, thing, starfire, Thing, Abomination, Wonder Man, Namor, Ghost Rider, Rogue, Storm, Maul, ms. marvel, Blastaar, Cpt. Britain, Cyborg, Donna Troy, Wondergirl, Gamora, Hawkman/Girl, Invisible Woman, Guardian I, Classic Nova, Deathlok, Speedfreek, She-Hulk, Atom Smasher, War Machine, Human Torch, The Tick, Thunderstrike, Toxin, Lightning Lad, Havok, Mr. Sinister, Omega Red, Beast Boy, metallo, box, The Flash I (Jay Garrick), Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage, Atlas, Mister Hyde, Box, Attuma, Thunder, Grace Choi, Shift, Power Girl, Aegis, Mary Marvel, Captain Marvel Jr, Bishop, Crystal, Electro

ENHANCED
wolverine, killer croc, luke cage, deathstroke, spider-man, Midnighter, angel, sabertooth, Morlun, Beast, Cyclops, Drizzt Do'Urden, Bruenor Battlehammer, Wulfgar, Azrael, Lady Deathstrike, Iron Fist, Beast, Bullseye, Gambit, Taskmaster, Vulture, Mysterio, Vermin, Man-Bat, Orka Humbug, Spiderwoman, Arachne, Arana, Kingpin, Silver Samurai, Ravager

STREET
batman, daredevil, nightwing, hawkeye, moon-knight, Green arrow, Captain America, Swift, Grifter, Turok, Wildcat, Taskmaster, Elektra, Batgirl, Black Panther, Nick Fury, Mystique, Punisher, joker, penguin, riddler, Nomad, Nuke, Ra's Al Ghul, Arsenal/Red Arrow, Black Cat, Catwoman, Echo, Misty Knight, Shang Chi, Coleen Wing, Black Widow, Robin, White Tiger

Originally posted by Validus
Extreme would be cool....

....if this were 1997. 😛


It could happen...

How about city leveler?
Given how well my first suggestion went, right now I'd be happy with "enhanced even more."

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and is electro still definitely mid-tier? i'd thought he'd had a pretty substantial upgrade?