Originally posted by leonheartmm
getting back on topic. he was a pedophile, no matter how much believers try to sidettrack that fact, he was a pedophile.
Dude. At that time...EVERYONE was a pedophile. Whoop-de-doo.
Originally posted by Eis
I am not suggesting the Middle East should be perfect, I am just saying it could be better. And I am not denying that many muslim men don't beat their wives but I doubt they don't think it's fine to hit them every once in a while if they are "disobedient" because the Quran clearly says its fine.
Originally posted by Eis
Now tell me, isn't it ridiculous that a man to be charged of rape four other men must've witnessed the act (cause criminal actions always take place in public places with lots of witnesses). Isn't it disgusting what happened to Mahmoud Asgari and the other kid? That muslim women cannot divorce their husbands even if they beat them up?
Isn't it discusting what happened at Virginia Tech? There. I've named more instances of violence than you so Virginia must be the most violent and deplorable area in the world.
Originally posted by Eis
The difference, Myownmuse, regarding domestic violence, is that in the US hitting your wife is illegal and it is grounds for arrest.
Originally posted by Eis
All those things you can trace back to the Islamic faith. The Bible may also teach atrocities but Christian-majority countries do not commit half the atrocities Islamic countries do.
Originally posted by Eis
As I said I am not on an anti-Islam crusade, I am simply saying that the current state of most Muslim nations are deplorable.
I know, any nation with Muslims in it is simply deporable.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
It was never in the history of Islam covered up, until just recently when people voiced their pinion how it is wrong.
And today, it does not appear that the Muslims are hiding the fact, but that PC non-muslims are. Which is sort of mind boggling, if you think about it.
Do you even read shit in this thread? WHO is covering it up?
Everyone that I can recall simply said that its no big deal. You're just trying to bash Islam because you're soaked in conservative ideology.
Originally posted by Eis
Okay, sis, what does the Quran say men have to do with disobedient wives? What does it say to do to unbelievers after the sacred months have passed? What does it say to do to adulterers?Regardless of whether you think adulterers deserve to be whipped or women beaten up for disagreeing with her husband, the Quran promotes violence. Violence in the western world in that form is seen as malicious and it is illegal. So please, do tell me, how am I posting "shits"?
Didn’t you wrote that Muslim women should work in kitchen and take care of her kids , cover her face ???In which verse or Hadith did u read about this ???
Islam prohibits men from hitting women, except in one very limited case when the wife is rebellious and disobedient - not when she disobeys one request or order - and only as a last resort. The husband should first admonish her, then abandon her bed if she continues to be rebellious, and only if those steps have failed “may be” hit, not beat, her. The earliest commentators understood that the hitting was to be light enough, not to leave a mark and should be done with nothing bigger than a miswak (tooth stick).
you would find one of the hadith in the vid I posted that the prophet order men not to beat or slap his women ..any kind of abuse ..
Ok about adulterers ..Some scholars of respected opinion discuss the point that there is no Qur'anic verse that clearly states stoning as a punishment. The majority insist on applying this punishment, which was originally prescribed in the Biblical Law enforced on the Jews and was mentioned in the hadiths of Prophet Muhammad. It is, of course, understandable that the punishment prescribed by the Jewish Law could have been implemented by the Prophet in some cases.and you might know the results of allowing a dultury ..women and children has no officially rights as others people ,many sexual diseases ,even the government itself will suffer from them .
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Please do NOT bring up vilence against women in the USA and compare them to those of Middle East or any Mullah lead countries.USA, actually, has a much better access and better founded women centres for domestic violence and rape, than many countries can speak of, actually, that includes England.
Their laws have recently been changed for domestic abuse, and rape. (to better) something we're still catching up on in England.Due to non-bible wielding education, for most Americans, women in USA are more prone to reporting abuse, as they know there is help available to them.
You came up with report statistics yourself!In Islamic countries this does not happen, and it is simple matter of fact. women are beaten, raped on daily bases, because according to Qur'an, husband can do so.
If a women is RAPED she needs to produce 5 withnesses, and if she does not, she is stoned for zina.
Women have noone to report it to.Just recently, a woman was captured by Mullah militants, for peaceful protest, she was taken into custody, and repetedly analy raped with a baseball bat. Then she was released with tons of money on her, but died of internal injuries. They wont give girls body back to their parents.
So don't tell me about sensationalist news, because this kind of crap never makes it on many TVs in England or West.
You're right. Middle East is different now. It has turned into a breeding ground for extremist Allahtoyahs, who, not only are bleating hate to young Muslims in mosques, but are actually in power as well!!Women rights abuses are amongst worse in Islamic countries.
Furhtermore, comparing USA to any Middle Eastern country (or west for that matter) is absolutey ridiculous.
Women are still abused, but west has put so much money into developing programs, for both men and women, for rape victims, both men and women, for laws on rape and laws on domestic violence..etc, so comparing them is just silly.
yes USA is a great country for women 2000 cases of rape a day
Originally posted by muslimscholar
yes USA is a great country for women 2000 cases of rape a day
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Stop making up numbers. 🙄 Facts 2004 0.4 rapes per 1000 people per year. ((300 million / 1000) / 365) x 0.4= 82.1918 per day. That is a far smaller number then 2000.
Originally posted by FeceMan
Stupidity quotient = pwned.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Good point.The problem is Fatima, Islam is a violent religion, and it condones violence on almost every page of Qur'an.
It is fine that there is a huge proportion of Muslims who are pieceful and do not support any vicious acts, however, baring in mind that Qur'an IS violent, and it does advocate murder of infidels and kafirs, you cannot therefore forbid some people, to putting that, which they find in Qur'an into practice.
LOL ..and u call yourself educated in Islam , and calling some people ignorants 🙄 Do I need to remind u of Al Taqqiya concept ..
Islam DIDN'T order to kill infidels ..I mean come on do u see Muslims all over the world holding weapons and attacking millions of people ..You need some lessons in Islam ..sis
Originally posted by Fatima
LOL ..and u call yourself educated in Islam , and calling some people ignorants 🙄 Do I need to remind u of Al Taqqiya concept ..Islam DIDN'T order to kill infidels ..I mean come on do u see Muslims all over the world holding weapons and attacking millions of people ..You need some lessons in Islam ..sis