Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Yeah, this is why nobody takes you seriously, you come up with the same old rubbish each time, and never make sense.
Right, except you can add up all of my posts alone with those of Nebaris' and you'd still beat us, and let's not forget about all the times 'TDTD' posted now. And again, I'd much rather have a higher overall number of posts than a higher PPD, and you have everyone on this forum beat with a figure of 16.
Yeah, that was totally self pwnage. 🙄
Lol, it's 'Betty' now? I though you reserved that name for Ac. Wasn't my name 'Francine?' Your lame ass insults are bad enough, so at least don't be mixing them up. [/B]
What's with the projection Noobaris? Or is it denial? You forget it's YOU nobody takes you seriously, hence the nickname Noobaris.
Yeah, please try and at least make sense.
Awww you have to start lying now and calling me tdtd. I forgot it was YOU who was playing detective and humiliating yourself by making baseless claims. Way to go Noobaris!
Yeah, except for the fact that not just me, but everyone knows that you're TD, and have called you out on it.
Judging by the past few months, nobody is your equal in self pwnage.
Right, now surely you must realise that just saying that doesn't make it true, right?
Let's take this example for instance.
Here was your post - "This coming from someone who lives in his own little dream world."
Here's what I edited it to - "This coming from someone who constantly owns me"
Here's my reply - "Good Darth Sexy, nice to see your wising up."
Disregarding the fact that editing your post wasn't exactly the maturest thing I could do, I really fail to see how that's self pwnage. Please either explain yourself, or admit that 50% of the time, you don't make sense, because you don't, and everybody can see that.
Boohoo, boohoo hoo Noobaris. Quit crying, nobody cares.
What, no picture? Come on Sexy, you're slipping.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
Yeah, please try and at least make sense.
Yeah, except for the fact that not just me, but everyone knows that you're TD, and have called you out on it.
Here was your post - "This coming from someone who lives in his own little dream world."Here's what I edited it to - "This coming from someone who constantly owns me"
Here's my reply - "Good Darth Sexy, nice to see your wising up."
Disregarding the fact that editing your post wasn't exactly the maturest thing I could do, I really fail to see how that's self pwnage. Please either explain yourself, or admit that 50% of the time, you don't make sense, because you don't, and everybody can see that.
What, no picture? Come on Sexy, you're slipping. [/B]
Originally posted by Apollo CloudDs is Not TDTD for sure, grammer proves this and DS argues with logic, the actual Td himself goes against canon and always gives up when LS attacks unlike DS who will argueYeah, except for the fact that not just me, but everyone knows that you're TD, and have called you out on it.
1. Studied under the most powerful sith for 20 years
And learned nothing as far as we know. Telll me what evidence of these Sith teachings we have that would matter in terms of power?
2. Destroyed military tanks with ease as large as AT-ATs with the force
Entire planet > AT-AT.
3. As anakin shook down a buiding with his rage
He made a ceiling collapse on top of himself.
I know I'm impressed.
3. Destroyed a medical room with just his emotions
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
4. Used crush to take down a 30 building in eaw
Where's this?
5. Levitated himself with the force to cut a piece of debris
...okiay....
6. And his force mastery > nihilus save for force drain and his TK
What about the mindraping and that stun thing? It's said that just by being in Nihilus' presence makes you his slave simply from the power.
Also, Nihilus kept the crew of the Ravager alive.
7. Sent a thug flying 50 feet backwards causing the thugs bones to shatter when he hit the wall
Nihilus wiped out a fellow Sith Lord by lifting her up and slamming her into a wall a foot way.
9. And popped a head instantl
Now that's cool.
Where is that?
By the way nikkolas, drop the nihilus fanboyism, for all we know he could have used the force to activate the ships engines making his job easier.
Because those engines really helped the ships when the Mass Shadow Generator was activated, right?
Stop the Vader fanboyism. For all we know the Sith Teachings he recieved only taught him Force Urine.
And vader is 80% of OT sidious who lifted something 19 times the size of the ravager
I've never seen the source for that number.
Originally posted by Nikkolas
And learned nothing as far as we know. Telll me what evidence of these Sith teachings we have that would matter in terms of power?Entire planet > AT-AT.
He made a ceiling collapse on top of himself.
I know I'm impressed.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Where's this?
...okiay....
What about the mindraping and that stun thing? It's said that just by being in Nihilus' presence makes you his slave simply from the power.
Also, Nihilus kept the crew of the Ravager alive.
Nihilus wiped out a fellow Sith Lord by lifting her up and slamming her into a wall a foot way.
Now that's cool.
Where is that?
Because those engines really helped the ships when the Mass Shadow Generator was activated, right?
Stop the Vader fanboyism. For all we know the Sith Teachings he recieved only taught him Force Urine.
I've never seen the source for that number.
What crap. Not only are Vader's raw force abilities superior to that of Nihilus, even as a machine, but the fact that you claim Vader learned nothing from Sidious in 20 years is hilarious. We don't need proof of specific techniques, it's logical deduction that he learned techniques from Sidious. And the only Fanboy here is you. Furthermore, Nihilus mind raped non force sensitives, big ****ing deal. Joruus did that, as well as Kun, on a level BEYOND Nihilus. All you're doing is downplaying others for the sake of your bullshit Nihilus fanboyism, which is illogical since all of your arguments have been destroyed.
What crap. Not only are Vader's raw force abilities superior to that of Nihilus, even as a machine
Tell me when Vader as the machine drained planets?
but the fact that you claim Vader learned nothing from Sidious in 20 years is hilarious.
Why are you lying?
Originally posted by me
And learned nothing as far as we know. Telll me what evidence of these Sith teachings we have that would matter in terms of power?
"as far as we know."
So, tell me, in those 20 years of Sith training, what DID he learn? I'm just curious.
We don't need proof of specific techniques
Then how do you quantify what he learned and why does it mean anything?
20 years of training through unknown means, learning unknown things... I am not one to assume anything. And I'm not gonna afford Vader uber-powers because he got 20 years of ambiguous training in the Sith ways.
i also find it HIGHLY doubtful that, with the whole Empire thing going on, that Palpatine was training him that whole time...
it's logical deduction that he learned techniques from Sidious.
Logical deduction he learned techniques sure but WHAT techniques is what matters in a battle and we don't know any of them....so kinda worthless.
And the only Fanboy here is you.
Uh-huh.... I'm not the one who has been beaten like a red-headed stepchild by LS, Escape or Advent... that applies more to you and ESB Vader. Using the search function as much as I do teches you a lot.
Also, may i remind you of your Ragnos and Ancient Sith worship that is founded more in your conjecture than fact?
Furthermore, Nihilus mind raped non force sensitives, big ****ing deal.
To me it is.
Tell me any other Sith Lord who, merely by their presence, can mindrape people.
Joruus did that
To an extent no other Force user has ever achieved... Ripping out pieces of a person's mind and replacing it with his own... I always found that awesome as hell.
as well as Kun, on a level BEYOND Nihilus.
I never said his mindraping surpassed anyone's. So, you're making a point I never denied.
Is it fun to rebut against yourself?
All you're doing is downplaying others for the sake of your bullshit Nihilus fanboyism
That's why I put Kun right next to Nihilus? Because I'm downplaying what he can do?
which is illogical since all of your arguments have been destroyed.
You've said this so much and it's been proven wrong so much it has lost all meaning.
If ANYONE has had their arguments destroyed, it's you.
At least I use fects and feats, NOT my own speculation. And by said facts and feats, I rank Nihilus above Exar Kun and every other Sith except Sidious.
But, please, "destroy" my arguments again with your Ragnos fanboyism based on nothing but hyperbole.
Oh...wait...he was pwned by Jaden Karr.... There's something. And he did have a scepter to do something Nihilus could do easily...
Originally posted by Nikkolas
Tell me when Vader as the machine drained planets?
So, tell me, in those 20 years of Sith training, what DID he learn? I'm just curious.
Then how do you quantify what he learned and why does it mean anything?
20 years of training through unknown means, learning unknown things... I am not one to assume anything. And I'm not gonna afford Vader uber-powers because he got 20 years of ambiguous training in the Sith ways.
Uh-huh.... I'm not the one who has been beaten like a red-headed stepchild by LS, Escape or Advent... that applies more to you and ESB Vader. Using the search function as much as I do teches you a lot.
Also, may i remind you of your Ragnos and Ancient Sith worship that is founded more in your conjecture than fact?
Tell me any other Sith Lord who, merely by their presence, can mindrape people.
To an extent no other Force user has ever achieved... Ripping out pieces of a person's mind and replacing it with his own... I always found that awesome as hell.
Is it fun to rebut against yourself?
You've said this so much and it's been proven wrong so much it has lost all meaning.
At least I use fects and feats, NOT my own speculation. And by said facts and feats, I rank Nihilus above Exar Kun and every other Sith except Sidious.
But, please, "destroy" my arguments again with your Ragnos fanboyism based on nothing but hyperbole.
Oh...wait...he was pwned by Jaden Karr.... There's something. And he did have a scepter to do something Nihilus could do easily... [/B]
Yet again, this coming from someone who doesn't understand what he's even saying.
You know what Sexy, this single exchange of statements says everything about the two of us; I back up what I say (in this instance, by bolding the part of your post that made zero sense), you don't.
Except for the fact that you're the only one who claimed it and everybody made fun of you. Damn Noobaris, you're really in denial here. It's cute.
Sure thing. You'd be correct of course if we ignore Generic Hero, Lightsnake, Swirly Girl, and Mysterious Man, all of whom acknowledged you as being Tdtd too.
Noobaris, how old are you? You can't possibly be this stupid. Then again, with the posts you've made, anything's possible.
Right, name one thing in that post that could possibly be interpreted as idiotic. Go on. I dare you. If (which is most likely what will happen) you ignore this request with yet another first grade level insult, it will be even more clear that you clearly just never know what the hell you're talking about.
BTW, kudos for taking the post out of context, you get brownie points.
Poor Noobaris, still attempting to speak for everybody with 0 credibility. And I say self pwnage because everytime you even bother typing, it's something stupid, irrelevant, illogical, useless, etc, ergo self pwnage.
Sure, great save there big guy.
I don't need a picture to pwn you Noobaris, it's been a daily thing since you've come back from your 6th ban.
Oh go on, we all know how fond of those pictures you are, go 4 it.
Let me use your logic since it's so ridiculous. Tell me when Nihilus force crushed anybody and defeated 15 Jedi in saber combat.
That has nothing to do with what you said.
"What crap. Not only are Vader's raw force abilities superior to that of Nihilus, even as a machine"
So...what Force abilities Vader shown on par with draining planets?
Enough to have a place on Korriban put there by the ancient sith, in case you haven't read DE. Enough to be the most feared man in the galaxy, and defeat Jedi after Jedi.
So they honor him on Korriban. This relates to knowing how much he learned...how?
As for being the most feared man in the galaxy...that doesn't equal knowing what he learned. You fail again.
And killing Jedi after Jedi...Jango Fett has done that. Boba Fett has done that. Fodder Jedi would fall to a Sith Lord, der.
Easily, Palpatine became the most powerful sith lord after studying for 25-30 years. He then taught Vader whatever for 20 years. Common sense.
A) Where does it say Palpatine studied for 25-30 years? I thought most of his early origins are a mystery.
B) Vader has certain limitations Palpatine doesn't. His horribly damaged body comes to mind. The fact Vader isn't as smart as Palpatine is another.
You're still not listing anything quantifiable he learned. You're using pure guesswork. Name a technique or give me a quote as to what he learned.
Actually you are getting a huge beat down for the past week
By who? You?
Mr. "It was a Force Drain Nihilus used on Kreia though nothing says it was"?
Mr. "Nihilus lifted a ship though everyone has told me he lifted a fleet"?
If anyone has been getting beaten around, it's you. You may have noticed no one is agreeing with you on...anything.
I however have won arguments against those 3, who happen to be the top debaters on this forum
Now this I would have to see to believe.
You can't even form a logical argument.
Your argument is the one where you guess at everything and prove nothing.
Still waiting on proof it was a Force Drain he used on Kreia. Still waiting on proof of what Vader learned in those 20 years.
AKA based on facts and logical deduction, two things that seem to elude you.
Based on quotes, no feats and your speculation.
Nothing proveable.
Ragnos was the strongest back then. He never drained a planet. He's less than Nihilus. He never paralyzed a Senate. He's less than Kun. He never destroyed a fleet. He's less than Sidious.
Ragnos is a loser and has nothing. Get over it.
You mean non force sensitives? Yea, Exar Kun's stasis field over hundreds of thousands of people. Joruus mindraped tens of thousands of crew members of the Star Destroyers. Care to try again, because your argument is getting deader by the minute.
I feel pity... You seem less and less capable of reading or taking in things as we go along. Here let me help you.
"Tell me any other Sith Lord who, merely by their presence, can mindrape people."
A statis field and gripping all their minds doesn't equate to "merely by their presence" in my world.
Oh, that would put Revan above Nihilus by that feat alone, since he ripped the language out of the force sensitive Rakata, and threw in basic.
Oh, that would put Revan above Nihilus by that feat alone, since he ripped the language out of the force sensitive Rakata, and threw in basic.
I'm not talking about Nihilus.... Though draining the life out of a Force sensitive race and dozens of Jedi does kinda WTFPWN ripping the language out of a singel Rakata.
But, like I said, what Joruus did is above anything else achieved in the mental use of The Force.
[uuote]Since you can't form a cogent argument, I doubt you even know what you're talking about.[/quote]
Still having that reading comprehension problem?
Let me help.
It's said that just by being in Nihilus' presence makes you his slave simply from the power.
as well as Kun, on a level BEYOND Nihilus.
I never said his mindraping surpassed anyone's. So, you're making a point I never denied.
Are you really in the Noobaris state of denial? Your argument has been destroyed time and time again, stop lying to yourself.
Destroyed?
By who?
Definitely not "this is a Force Drain though it doesn't look like one nor does anyone say it is".
At least my arguments rest in facts. Not what I ASSume.
No, you use feat wars. If we used feat wars, both Kun and Revan are easily above Nihilus.
Name one planet drained by Revan and Kun.
Name one time they lifted a fleet.
Nice comparison dumbshit.
If you're gonna use the fallacious argument of Nihilus being beaten by the Exile, I'm gonna use the argument of Ragnos being pwned by Jaden.
Prove to me being a spirit for 5,000 years somehow weakened him as we know Nihilus was weakened when he fought the Exile.
Oh and losing to Jaden is actually EVIDENCE. We know about it. It's not supposition or assumptions. It's an actual quantified feat.
And Ragnos' scepter could give force abilities to non force sensitives, so more kudos for him than your sexual fantasy Nihilus. Pwned again.
Does your immaturity know no bounds?
Can't you even formulate an argument without acting like an arrogant fool or using grade-school taunts?
As for it giving powers to non-Force sensitives...I really don't care. It's not Ragnos' power. It's an artifact. My poitn was that Ragnos needed a scepter to do something Nihilus could do on his own. My point is valid until Ragnos drains a planet on his own or someone says he can.
Was Nihilus' draining ritualistic? I doubt it's instant, anyway, because he spoke to use it. Also, Nihilus didn't even kill an unsuspecting Traya.
Also, Ragnos' scepter could drain planets, but it couldn't kill Kyle Katarn.
I'm not sure that Nihilus is quote the guy you're making him out to be in personal combat. Not to mention that some Jedi have shown the ability to loop out of the force.
Was Nihilus' draining ritualistic? I doubt it's instant, anyway, because he spoke to use it.
There seems to be a difference in the drains. He does not speak to drain the Exile but he does to drain Katarr.
I haven't read Unseen, Unheard but I've never heard him doing any ritualizing beforehand. Just he spoke and everything died.
There's also the matter of how his drain destroys things on the planet. It destroys buildings and stuff. That's clearly different than what he did to the Exile and Sion in the cut scene.
Also, Nihilus didn't even kill an unsuspecting Traya.
He wasn't trying to. He threw her into a wall and Sion beat her up some while he watched. I recall hearing she states he wanted to humiliate her.
I'm not sure that Nihilus is quote the guy you're making him out to be in personal combat.
I'm not saying he's mastered all the forms of lightsaber combat, a billion martial art techniques and thousands of Force powers but he still has done enough with The Force to see hoe extraordinarily powerful he is.
Not to mention that some Jedi have shown the ability to loop out of the force.
This is correct but this simply means he could not drain them. it doesn't mean said Jedi are stronger than him. Wasn't it Tholme who could disconnect from The Force? I wouldn't say he's stronger than Nihilus.
Originally posted by jollyjim311
Was Nihilus' draining ritualistic? I doubt it's instant, anyway, because he spoke to use it. Also, Nihilus didn't even kill an unsuspecting Traya.Also, Ragnos' scepter could drain planets, but it couldn't kill Kyle Katarn.
I'm not sure that Nihilus is quote the guy you're making him out to be in personal combat. Not to mention that some Jedi have shown the ability to loop out of the force.
Nihilus couldn't defeat the top dogs in combat, this has been proven.
Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
You know what Sexy, this single exchange of statements says everything about the two of us; I back up what I say (in this instance, by bolding the part of your post that made zero sense), you don't.Sure thing. You'd be correct of course if we ignore Generic Hero, Lightsnake, Swirly Girl, and Mysterious Man, all of whom acknowledged you as being Tdtd too.
Right, name one thing in that post that could possibly be interpreted as idiotic. Go on. I dare you. If (which is most likely what will happen) you ignore this request with yet another first grade level insult, it will be even more clear that you clearly just never know what the hell you're talking about.
BTW, kudos for taking the post out of context, you get brownie points.
Sure, great save there big guy.
Oh go on, we all know how fond of those pictures you are, go 4 it.