Who is the Second Most Powerful Sith?

This is yet another reason why I disliked KOTOR 2 so much. The big bad guy is a demi-god in his own right. Sure there's conniving in Kreia, there's a visible threat in Sion, but then they throw in a planet eater? Jesus Christ, what next? A Galaxy Muncher?

Isn't KOTOR an RPG?

I've played Final Fantasy and the Xeno series...planet-eaters aren't anything special for the main baddies.

On-topic though, aside from Nihilus's Draining techniques (A Deus ex machina frankly), does anyone honestly believe he would be second?

If we take it away, we have a large TK feat, some ability to keep himself and other beings alive in a ship with large parts exposed to space, stun, choke and consciousness transferal.

I'd still put him in Top 5. I'd place Kun higher than him. however.

And it still baffles me that people put Revan so high... He grew stronger as a light-sider than he was as a Dark Lord.What feats as a Sith did he perform to place him higher than someone like Nihilus? Or anywhere near Kun and Nihilus?

Are there any specific quotes in PoD as of how strong he was or what he could do?

Let's not also forget that because Nihilus is a wound in the force (thus there's no force presence within him), he's immune to force attacks and can't be sensed by the force, which gives him a huge advantage against other force users.

Uh he can be sensed in the force, wtf are you talking about

No he can't. How the hell can he be sensed? He's a wound in the force, there's nothing to be sensed. Until you actually have concrete evidence saying that he can actually be sensed, please just be quiet.

Originally posted by Apollo Cloud
No he can't. How the hell can he be sensed? He's a wound in the force, there's nothing to be sensed. Until you actually have concrete evidence saying that he can actually be sensed, please just be quiet.

The Exile and Nihilus' nature is not the same. The Exile had slowly been regaing her force presence since the start of KotOR2, she was only a partial wound in the force.

As far as power goes, Nihilus is up there. In a small skirmish however, or a versus battle context, I don't see how he is anything more than "above average." He isn't a huge threat in one on one combat. How could he use his destroy/drain attack and not be destroyed in this setting, might I ask? Also, who's to say he doesn't need to prepare to let out one of these attacks. He may use his ship to amplify his power, seeing as how it is an Ancient Sith ship, and he needed to speak to use his power. I think it's ritualistic.

How could he use his destroy/drain attack and not be destroyed in this setting, might I ask?

He doesn't have to use the magnified version of the drain he uses on planets. He can do the one he did to the Exile. There definitely seems to be a differ[ence.

Also, who's to say he doesn't need to prepare to let out one of these attacks

The uber-drain or the regular one?

I saw no evidence he needed to prepare for either but ESB Vader is the one with Unseen, Unheard. Maybe it tells of him preparing for it in there but I don't think so.

He may use his ship to amplify his power, seeing as how it is an Ancient Sith ship

Except the ship is totally un-spaceworthy and the only thing ever said about it and Nihilus is that he uses it to go through space. I didn't see nor hear anything about it possibly augmenting his power so I'm not gonna consider it.

and he needed to speak to use his power. I think it's ritualistic.

So, you say one thing and a planet dies and it's a ritual? Were their candles, dancing and his Force zombies gathered in a pentegram? 🙂

So, Nihilus drained Kreia?

Despite it not looking like a drain or having the effect of the drain?

This is what KREIA says on the matter.

"There will be those who will deny the force, try to forget it, but they manitan unconusius ties. And there would be those, like me, who have had the Force stripped from them."

So, Nihilus picked her up and threw her against a wall and stripped her of The Force also.

Yes we see the lightsaber move but this is probably just an error by the people who made the game. The canon statement by the person who had this done to them says she was stripped of The Force.

So, chalk up another ability to disprove the notion Nihilus is a one-trick pony.