Why do you keep panic posting? You're not "king" of anything.
Answer my question;
Seeing as we all agree, are we all wrong? Are you right, and we're all wrong? Or am I only wrong, to you, because you can't stand how bad I crush your points?
I ACTUALLY SAID: "Precisely.
So if I think something is boring or dull, like Arctic Monkeys, I think it's shit music, like Lily Allen.
You think it's exciting and emotional, so you call it good music.".
Proving, for the bajillionth time, that we are right, I am right. You're not.
But, seeing as you think I'm somehow controlling, I'll step out and keep watching the thread with you and others, so I can see them do the same thing as I do.
-AC
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
So again Ytse...Do you or do you not think there’s no such thing as objectively “good wine” (because as you said…God hasn’t come down and indicated as such)…and that likewise, there’s no such thing as “good music”?
I've already answered this.
If you had a point worth mentioning you'd have gotten around to it already.
Originally posted by Ytse
If you had a point worth mentioning you'd have gotten around to it already.
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Thhhank you AC...you just lost the argument.
This is what I will post over and over again to show how you, once and for all, lost the argument...and took everybody else with you who thinks they make sense when they say "there's no such thing as crap music"...and then say..."that song is crap"
To those people I say…making a statement like "that song is crap” or “that song is good" could only mean, and who think there is NO SUCH THING as objectively good and crap music ...
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
They just LIKE IT or DISLIKE IT"crap" and "good" are just WORDS they use to express this...but THAT'S IT!
Any reasons they might have for explaining how it is "crap" or how it is "good" in any way are worth SQUAT...because there's nothing to prove with those reasons.
They can ONLY have reasons as to why they LIKE IT or DISLIKE IT.
Such as...I think it's boring, dull, etc...
Originally posted by Alpha Centauri
Precisely.
So again…giving reasons as to why people LIKE or DISLIKE a song they call crap makes sense. (AC just agreed to that)
Giving reasons to say how it’s “good” or “crap“ doesn’t make sense…”good“ and “crap” are just words used to show that they LIKE IT or DISLIKE IT. (AC just agreed to that as well)
So…just so you all know what you’re actually saying when you say “this song sucks” or “this song rules“…you're ONLY saying you DISLIKE IT or LIKE IT.
I didn’t say this…AC did.
Originally posted by Alpha CentauriNO...NO...NO...
Because you can't show that a song is shit on that level, or good, it's all personal opinion.
Whether it's "shit" is not a personal opinion...whether you LIKE IT or NOT is.
YOU SAID "shit" is only a word you use to say if you like something or not...and not to actually show that something is "shit".
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
NO...NO...NO...Whether it's "shit" is not a personal opinion...whether you LIKE IT or NOT is.
No, it is personal opinion. Whether it's shit or not depends on if you think it's shit or not. That doesn't mean the person calling it shit is suggesting it's objectively shit, it means they're saying "I think this song is shit.", and that's all anyone can do, because there is no objective standard of good and bad music.
If there is; Prove it. Give us evidence. Not evidence why you think there might be, evidence there is.
You can't, can you? You've said you can't. You just expect us to say there is.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
YOU SAID "shit" is only a word you use to say if you like something or not...and not to actually show that something is "shit".
Because you CAN'T actually show that something is objectively shit or good, you fool.
Can you do it? Show us how a song is objectively shit.
You prove to me right now, all of us, how La La by Ashlee Simpson is objectively shit, or any song you feel is objectively shit.
-AC
Originally posted by YtseTHERE!
I don't get your point at all. Just freaking come out and state it.
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
NO...NO...NO...Whether it's "shit" is not a personal opinion...whether you LIKE IT or NOT is.
YOU SAID "shit" is only a word you use to say if you like something or not...and not to actually show that something is "shit".
Originally posted by EPIIIBITES
He is truly a wonder isn't he...THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A SHIT SONG AC...ACCORDING TO YOU...GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD!
Why are you telling me what is true according to me, because you misinterpreted what I said?
There's no such thing as an objectively shit song, is what I said. If there was, everybody would have to agree, it would be truth, but it's not.
There are subjectively shit songs only.
Again:
"Can you do it? Show us how a song is objectively shit.
You prove to me right now, all of us, how La La by Ashlee Simpson is objectively shit, or any song you feel is objectively shit.".
-AC
Originally posted by Ytse
No, I don't care what someone else said shit meant. Tell me:I believe music is objective because...
and then explain your reasoning.
WHEN IN THE LAST 3 DAYS HAVE I BEEN DISCUSSINIG OBJECTIVE MUSIC?
I'm TALKING ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT...
THIS...THIS is why I PMd you...THIS IS WHY...because AC is getting you to think about other stuff and take the focus off what I'M talkng about.
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I am talking about how RIDICULOUS it is to say "this songs is crap" when you also say "there is no such thing as crap music"