Originally posted by inimalistOh, I know what you mean, but I don't see that as sustainable with SquawkSquawk's BS economics.
http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/backgrounders/bg-i3.htmlThe bank of Canada has held inflation to 2% for over 15 years now
It isn't... What he says makes no sense.
For some reason he thinks that raising taxes on the rich increasing the pay on the poor and forcing company's to pay far more taxes will turn his nation into a better working nation.
There is a reason socialism in forms like this has always hurt the economy more then it helped it. The best way to fix the economy is to make every single human being responsible for him or herself, of course that is just unethical so you would provide basic minimal living for them, and then try to help them through the company's. Through investments into your own economy instead of lowering the amount of money your company's have... Lowering money of your company's weakens their marketing position which weakens the economy... It's quite simple really.
Originally posted by Devil King
he doesn't call himself an "accountant student", does he?
No I am just not sure what the proper title is.
And there are many socialist nations in Europe that do just fine with policies similar to mine.
Not everyone can help themselves, and especially in the case of disabled people, they deserve better then the minimal standard of living.
Making big business richer does not help anyone but them.
Automotive companies have had record profit years and still eliminated jobs because they found ways to make more money.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Oh, I know what you mean, but I don't see that as sustainable with SquawkSquawk's BS economics.
I don't think a lot of the benefits we have in our economy would be sustainable with Mr. Squawk's BS economics.
Its like he thinks he is the only person that sees these problems with capitalism, and that there haven't been solutions for them for decades.
Originally posted by inimalist
I don't think a lot of the benefits we have in our economy would be sustainable with Mr. Squawk's BS economics.Its like he thinks he is the only person that sees these problems with capitalism, and that there haven't been solutions for them for decades.
First off, stop messing around with my name, you've been reported for baiting, since your only doing it to annoy me and trying to start a fight.
As I said:
there are many socialist nations in Europe that do just fine with policies similar to mine.Not everyone can help themselves, and especially in the case of disabled people, they deserve better then the minimal standard of living.
Making big business richer does not help anyone but them.
Automotive companies have had record profit years and still eliminated jobs because they found ways to make more money.
There are solutuions, just not perfect ones for both sides.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
If it was as easy as your suggestions, it would have been done ages ago. People have pointed out the problems to you, but you won't listen.
I never said there wasn't problems, there will be with ANY solution, there is no perfect solution where both sides are happy, I just choose the side of people over business.
And Inimilist, My ideas are socailst, but far from Communism
Here learn what the term actually means:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
Originally posted by Starhawk
I never said there wasn't problems, there will be with ANY solution, there is no perfect solution where both sides are happy, I just choose the side of people over business.And Inimilist, My ideas are socailst, but far from Communism
Here learn what the term actually means:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
You do realize that every socialist nation in Europe has had a failing economy lately? Constantly weakening, except for their natural resources income as that stays around?
The same would happen in Canada the economy would stagnate as company's wouldn't have the ability to grow. They would be forced to pay incredibly high taxes. Take Ikea for example one of the largest company's in the world right now making huge profits. Guess where their headquarters is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikea
Holland, I live there. The economy here is actually growing, faster then the economy in most other European nations. You know why? Because we allow company's to grow and we cut on civil care in the past few years, yes it hurt the weaker part of the society, but our economy is growing fast now meaning we can help them again. Company's need to grow in order to create a stronger economy.
Originally posted by Fishy
You do realize that every socialist nation in Europe has had a failing economy lately? Constantly weakening, except for their natural resources income as that stays around?The same would happen in Canada the economy would stagnate as company's wouldn't have the ability to grow. They would be forced to pay incredibly high taxes. Take Ikea for example one of the largest company's in the world right now making huge profits. Guess where their headquarters is?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikea
Holland, I live there. The economy here is actually growing, faster then the economy in most other European nations. You know why? Because we allow company's to grow and we cut on civil care in the past few years, yes it hurt the weaker part of the society, but our economy is growing fast now meaning we can help them again. Company's need to grow in order to create a stronger economy.
Companies are growing just fine as it is, they are making huge profits and still eliminating jobs all over. And the economy in Canada has been great for almost a decade now and they have done next to nothing for those people. Actually they've cut funding to social programs and health care. What motivates big business is greed, not a desire to help people.
Also Sweden is probably one of the most famous socialist nations in Europe and their economy is just fine.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Companies are growing just fine as it is, they are making huge profits and still eliminating jobs all over. And the economy in Canada has been great for almost a decade now and they have done next to nothing for those people. Actually they've cut funding to social programs and health care. What motivates big business is greed, not a desire to help people.Also Sweden is probably one of the most famous socialist nations in Europe and their economy is just fine.
Their economy is weakening, they haven't been growing as fast as other nations since 1970.
Their is a reason why a moderate was elected instead of a socialist in the last elections afters years of non stop socialist rule... The Swedish economy was weakening to much to fast. Their unemployment rate is quite high compared to the rest of Europe still.
And you are right what motivates company's is greed, and that is exactly what will work against your stupid idea's. You think that taking away money from company's will make them stay in your country, which it won't because they can easily move their company to some other country with lower corporate taxes and increase their profits like that. At the same time they can still outsource their jobs, the only way to make company's stay is to offer them benefits for staying, making leaving less attractive.
Originally posted by Fishy
Their economy is weakening, they haven't been growing as fast as other nations since 1970.Their is a reason why a moderate was elected instead of a socialist in the last elections afters years of non stop socialist rule... The Swedish economy was weakening to much to fast. Their unemployment rate is quite high compared to the rest of Europe still.
Provide figures for all of that.
As for the rest we have already covered that. They will move regardless.
Originally posted by Starhawk
Provide figures for all of that.As for the rest we have already covered that. They will move regardless.
Their GDP has weakened heavily since the 70's
http://www.scb.se/templates/tableOrChart____26664.asp
Crawling back at times but just weakening again later.
http://www.scb.se/templates/tableOrChart____26682.asp
The money the people had has only decreased...
http://www.iies.su.se/~assar/Links/Sw_Ec_Growth_SEPR.pdf
A report about the situation Sweden. Clearly stating that since the 1970's Sweden has become a weaker nation economically speaking.
And once again you fail to understand my point, they will move anyway you say. So nothing you can do will make them stay, then let's ask ourselves the question why are they leaving?
Because it's cheaper to be somewhere else then in Canada..
So what would Canada then need to do to make those company's stay? Make it even more expensive for them? That's just stupid, no they should try and make the company's stay by offering rewards for it. Those would in turn boost the Canadian economy.
Originally posted by Fishy
And once again you fail to understand my point, they will move anyway you say. So nothing you can do will make them stay, then let's ask ourselves the question why are they leaving?Because it's cheaper to be somewhere else then in Canada..
So what would Canada then need to do to make those company's stay? Make it even more expensive for them? That's just stupid, no they should try and make the company's stay by offering rewards for it. Those would in turn boost the Canadian economy.
They will leave anyways, it will always be cheaper for them to be in one of those countries. Canada cannot afford to give them what it takes to make it cheaper for them to stay. And as I said companies have been making record profits and they still downsize and eliminate jobs.